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On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this
People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.
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On November 26 2011 21:09 Bromazepam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 21:08 TheBB wrote:
Day9 and.... which other stream? Should be TB? Tastosis, but they're not up yet.
According to the schedule, Tastosis is off until Ro8.
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On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.
The only non-volatile mirror match is TvT really.
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I must say Mr.Bitter is possibly the best caster now. He seems to be able to cast with literally every other commentator w/ no problems. I like him w/ Rotterdam the most but him and day9 are pretty good as well.
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I want to see Tod vs Ret!
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On November 26 2011 21:07 RolleMcKnolle wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 21:02 Santiago4ever wrote:On November 26 2011 20:58 ladyumbra wrote:On November 26 2011 20:52 MavivaM wrote:On November 26 2011 20:44 Poyo wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. A no name comes in and beats some big names poised to win the whole thing.
Almost too volatile for my taste. It happens when the no name plays better than the big name. Seiplo's probe count has always been higher than Huk's. In game one he was perfectly prepared for DTs, in game two he managed to balance his aggression/defense way better than Huk. PvP in general dunno, but this match wasn't volatile. DT vs robo in game one, exact same opening for both with the slight difference between blink vs observer in game two. Having a big name doesn't necessarly mean having a free win against someone you don't know. For what I know, maybe Seiplo has spent a lot of time training and winning. This is  Seiplo for you. And in DH he has already beaten Genius and TLO. There are no major tournaments because he hasn't been invited anywhere and his team probably can't afford to send him to MLG etc. I was quite impressed by seiplo's macro especially when he was down probes after Huk's attack into his main game one. Even if he goes out vs hero he's gotten me interested in following him from now on. I think there are a lot of impressive EU players that I just don't get a chance to see if they aren't already well known. Also wtf sweden why so many good protoss? Are you insinuating that we don't have any good zergs/terrans?  maybe, but Swedes had amazing trukks and big shootaz back in the day
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH \o/
Orkz sez dat sweden iz da greatest e-sport naishun evah!
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Nice, wish I'd see more zerg try this. It's pretty good
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Germany25658 Posts
god i love the evochamber block, its like spitting in the protoss face
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...and MaNa with the revenge block 
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Manner chamber on a toss natural FE is just....haha somewhere Idra is giggling and doesn't understand why just yet ^^
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United States97277 Posts
pretty interesting start to the polish playoff
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On November 26 2011 21:11 hasuterrans wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too. The only non-volatile mirror match is TvT really.
I don't think zvz is AS volatile a matchup as PvP or even close outside the initial build orders, but even then it's not an auto loss unless you like 15 hatch on a bad map against an early pool + drone rush. You get a lot of scouting because you're constantly being aggressive and your overlords give you a lot of vision on the map.
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Brilliant plan by Nerchio to attack the cannon as soon as evo chamber is destroyed, but Mana is on top of that.
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They know each other so much!
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love that he always 3 hatch against Forge FE :D
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that's an odd thing for Tasteless to sign.
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On November 26 2011 21:11 Santiago4ever wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 21:07 RolleMcKnolle wrote:On November 26 2011 21:02 Santiago4ever wrote:On November 26 2011 20:58 ladyumbra wrote:On November 26 2011 20:52 MavivaM wrote:On November 26 2011 20:44 Poyo wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. A no name comes in and beats some big names poised to win the whole thing.
Almost too volatile for my taste. It happens when the no name plays better than the big name. Seiplo's probe count has always been higher than Huk's. In game one he was perfectly prepared for DTs, in game two he managed to balance his aggression/defense way better than Huk. PvP in general dunno, but this match wasn't volatile. DT vs robo in game one, exact same opening for both with the slight difference between blink vs observer in game two. Having a big name doesn't necessarly mean having a free win against someone you don't know. For what I know, maybe Seiplo has spent a lot of time training and winning. This is Seiplo for you. And in DH he has already beaten Genius and TLO. There are no major tournaments because he hasn't been invited anywhere and his team probably can't afford to send him to MLG etc. I was quite impressed by seiplo's macro especially when he was down probes after Huk's attack into his main game one. Even if he goes out vs hero he's gotten me interested in following him from now on. I think there are a lot of impressive EU players that I just don't get a chance to see if they aren't already well known. Also wtf sweden why so many good protoss? Are you insinuating that we don't have any good zergs/terrans? maybe, but Swedes had amazing trukks and big shootaz back in the day WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH \o/ Orkz sez dat sweden iz da greatest e-sport naishun evah!
FOR TEH EMPRAH!!
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On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.
Also, Seiplo was the best no-name in the world. Now people know who he is so he's just another player most people have heard of.
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On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.
What's volatile about one player expanding and getting ahead in economy, and the other player expanding later and cutting Probe production while being unable to do any damage?
Game 2 was as clean and straightforward of a game as in any other matchup.
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