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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 26 2011 12:10 GMT
#1401
On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this

People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
November 26 2011 12:10 GMT
#1402
On November 26 2011 21:09 Bromazepam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:08 TheBB wrote:
Day9 and.... which other stream? Should be TB?

Tastosis, but they're not up yet.

According to the schedule, Tastosis is off until Ro8.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
hasuterrans
Profile Joined April 2009
United States614 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1403
On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this

People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.


The only non-volatile mirror match is TvT really.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1404
I must say Mr.Bitter is possibly the best caster now. He seems to be able to cast with literally every other commentator w/ no problems. I like him w/ Rotterdam the most but him and day9 are pretty good as well.
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Zea!
Profile Joined November 2006
9589 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1405
I want to see Tod vs Ret!
The Real Power~
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1406
Evo chamber block <3
Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1407
On November 26 2011 21:07 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:02 Santiago4ever wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:58 ladyumbra wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:52 MavivaM wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:44 Poyo wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. A no name comes in and beats some big names poised to win the whole thing.

Almost too volatile for my taste.


It happens when the no name plays better than the big name.
Seiplo's probe count has always been higher than Huk's.
In game one he was perfectly prepared for DTs, in game two he managed to balance his aggression/defense way better than Huk.

PvP in general dunno, but this match wasn't volatile.
DT vs robo in game one, exact same opening for both with the slight difference between blink vs observer in game two.

Having a big name doesn't necessarly mean having a free win against someone you don't know.
For what I know, maybe Seiplo has spent a lot of time training and winning.

This is (P)Seiplo for you.
And in DH he has already beaten Genius and TLO.
There are no major tournaments because he hasn't been invited anywhere and his team probably can't afford to send him to MLG etc.


I was quite impressed by seiplo's macro especially when he was down probes after Huk's attack into his main game one. Even if he goes out vs hero he's gotten me interested in following him from now on. I think there are a lot of impressive EU players that I just don't get a chance to see if they aren't already well known.

Also wtf sweden why so many good protoss?


Are you insinuating that we don't have any good zergs/terrans?

maybe, but Swedes had amazing trukks and big shootaz back in the day


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH \o/

Orkz sez dat sweden iz da greatest e-sport naishun evah!
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1408
Nice, wish I'd see more zerg try this. It's pretty good
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KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1409
god i love the evochamber block, its like spitting in the protoss face
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 26 2011 12:11 GMT
#1410
...and MaNa with the revenge block
Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
November 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#1411
Manner chamber on a toss natural FE is just....haha somewhere Idra is giggling and doesn't understand why just yet ^^
♞Nerdrage is the cause of global warming♞
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#1412
pretty interesting start to the polish playoff
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#1413
On November 26 2011 21:11 hasuterrans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this

People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.


The only non-volatile mirror match is TvT really.

I don't think zvz is AS volatile a matchup as PvP or even close outside the initial build orders, but even then it's not an auto loss unless you like 15 hatch on a bad map against an early pool + drone rush. You get a lot of scouting because you're constantly being aggressive and your overlords give you a lot of vision on the map.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
November 26 2011 12:12 GMT
#1414
Brilliant plan by Nerchio to attack the cannon as soon as evo chamber is destroyed, but Mana is on top of that.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4725 Posts
November 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#1415
They know each other so much!
Pathetic Greta hater.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10301 Posts
November 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#1416
love that he always 3 hatch against Forge FE :D
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#1417
that's an odd thing for Tasteless to sign.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
IsraeL
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom172 Posts
November 26 2011 12:13 GMT
#1418
On November 26 2011 21:11 Santiago4ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:07 RolleMcKnolle wrote:
On November 26 2011 21:02 Santiago4ever wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:58 ladyumbra wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:52 MavivaM wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:44 Poyo wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. A no name comes in and beats some big names poised to win the whole thing.

Almost too volatile for my taste.


It happens when the no name plays better than the big name.
Seiplo's probe count has always been higher than Huk's.
In game one he was perfectly prepared for DTs, in game two he managed to balance his aggression/defense way better than Huk.

PvP in general dunno, but this match wasn't volatile.
DT vs robo in game one, exact same opening for both with the slight difference between blink vs observer in game two.

Having a big name doesn't necessarly mean having a free win against someone you don't know.
For what I know, maybe Seiplo has spent a lot of time training and winning.

This is (P)Seiplo for you.
And in DH he has already beaten Genius and TLO.
There are no major tournaments because he hasn't been invited anywhere and his team probably can't afford to send him to MLG etc.


I was quite impressed by seiplo's macro especially when he was down probes after Huk's attack into his main game one. Even if he goes out vs hero he's gotten me interested in following him from now on. I think there are a lot of impressive EU players that I just don't get a chance to see if they aren't already well known.

Also wtf sweden why so many good protoss?


Are you insinuating that we don't have any good zergs/terrans?

maybe, but Swedes had amazing trukks and big shootaz back in the day


WAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH \o/

Orkz sez dat sweden iz da greatest e-sport naishun evah!



FOR TEH EMPRAH!!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
November 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#1419
On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this

People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.


Also, Seiplo was the best no-name in the world. Now people know who he is so he's just another player most people have heard of.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 26 2011 12:14 GMT
#1420
On November 26 2011 21:10 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 21:08 Spitmode wrote:
what happened huk vs seiplo? the "best protoss in the world" getting crushed and steamrolled by a noname? wtf is this

People keep saying PvP isn't a volatile matchup, but it's easily the most volatile matchup in the game. Fact is it's really narrow in terms of what skillsets it takes to end up taking the win, and involves a lot of luck sometimes too.


What's volatile about one player expanding and getting ahead in economy, and the other player expanding later and cutting Probe production while being unable to do any damage?

Game 2 was as clean and straightforward of a game as in any other matchup.
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