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WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 26 2011 11:57 GMT
#1341
Mana vs nerchio. Polish "country-kill" At least 1 of them is going through-
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
November 26 2011 11:57 GMT
#1342
On November 26 2011 20:55 ninjamyst wrote:
HerO's PvZ is godly but he has lost many PvTs and PvPs. What's his record against Puma so far? It is even after his win against Puma in MLG?

I really don't see him beating Puma's TvP.
ninjamyst
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1903 Posts
November 26 2011 11:57 GMT
#1343
On November 26 2011 20:55 SeaSwift wrote:
Hmm, from his stats Seiplo looks like a PvP sniper. Quite lucky for him given his group stage and met HuK in the Ro16, but he does not stand a good chance against the likes of DRG or Puma.


Yea. He lost in group play to zerg DeathAngel. Sucks that HerO has to go up against him next.
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
November 26 2011 11:58 GMT
#1344
On November 26 2011 20:55 ninjamyst wrote:
HerO's PvZ is godly but he has lost many PvTs and PvPs. What's his record against Puma so far? It is even after his win against Puma in MLG?


All the results I remember the games are always 2-1 but when hero loses it is really close
ladyumbra
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1699 Posts
November 26 2011 11:58 GMT
#1345
On November 26 2011 20:52 MavivaM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:44 Poyo wrote:
Not sure what to make of this. A no name comes in and beats some big names poised to win the whole thing.

Almost too volatile for my taste.


It happens when the no name plays better than the big name.
Seiplo's probe count has always been higher than Huk's.
In game one he was perfectly prepared for DTs, in game two he managed to balance his aggression/defense way better than Huk.

PvP in general dunno, but this match wasn't volatile.
DT vs robo in game one, exact same opening for both with the slight difference between blink vs observer in game two.

Having a big name doesn't necessarly mean having a free win against someone you don't know.
For what I know, maybe Seiplo has spent a lot of time training and winning.

This is (P)Seiplo for you.
And in DH he has already beaten Genius and TLO.
There are no major tournaments because he hasn't been invited anywhere and his team probably can't afford to send him to MLG etc.


I was quite impressed by seiplo's macro especially when he was down probes after Huk's attack into his main game one. Even if he goes out vs hero he's gotten me interested in following him from now on. I think there are a lot of impressive EU players that I just don't get a chance to see if they aren't already well known.

Also wtf sweden why so many good protoss?
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
November 26 2011 11:58 GMT
#1346
"wow this hero kid so happy ;; hm.. maybe dh should learn from MLG and use extended series LOL"
- Robinnyman

LOL, TL staff starting to like extended series now
I am not young enough to know everything.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
November 26 2011 11:58 GMT
#1347
On November 26 2011 20:57 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:55 ninjamyst wrote:
HerO's PvZ is godly but he has lost many PvTs and PvPs. What's his record against Puma so far? It is even after his win against Puma in MLG?

I really don't see him beating Puma's TvP.


He already did at MLG.

Besides, the games between them were never really games where HerO's superior mechanics could shine through because of how messed up that matchup was for the last few months.

It's only a matter of time before it becomes obvious who is the better player.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 26 2011 11:58 GMT
#1348
On November 26 2011 20:57 Logros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:55 ninjamyst wrote:
HerO's PvZ is godly but he has lost many PvTs and PvPs. What's his record against Puma so far? It is even after his win against Puma in MLG?

I really don't see him beating Puma's TvP.

he wont have the chance to face Puma probably. I don't think Puma will be able to get through DRG
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Lakai
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada315 Posts
November 26 2011 11:59 GMT
#1349
On November 26 2011 20:52 SeaSwift wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:50 AxionSteel wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:47 mordk wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:46 AxionSteel wrote:
So yeah, protoss has no harrass options.



k.

You realize the advantage Hero had in order to make that harass viable right?

If anything, it's a bad BO decision by sheth. WP attacks counter early mutas hard, since you won't have enough units to defend properly.


He harrasses beautifully with amazing multitasking in every game he plays.


And yet still got crushed by DRG in this tournament and could barely get past Ret (definitely not a Top 5 Zerg) in MLG. His harass style is cute, but he needs to combine it with an old-age-MC style threat of terrifying 1-2base pushes to really do well.

You know he 2-0'd ret in MLG? He lost to DRG yesterday because he played pretty bad. He's somewhat inconsistent which I attribute to nerves. If he plays as consistent as he does when laddering he will dominate.
HerO - Minigun - MaNa - Puzzle - NonY - Axslav - MKP - DeMusliM - SeleCT - LosirA
DaRKMaTT3r
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil553 Posts
November 26 2011 11:59 GMT
#1350
On November 26 2011 20:55 Vapaach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:51 hasuterrans wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:50 ilbh wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:48 XRuneTH wrote:
How can he drop the templar and launch storm instantly :-S

it's LAN


Nice joke there.


I am pretty sure herO hotkeyed the templar and spammed t as soon as he dropped the templars from the prism.


You can put the Templars and the prism on the same control group and once first templar is out the templar spells gains priority over the prism spells. So you can drop and storm really fast, also hes HerO and every one knows when playing PvZ he takes of his shirt and 2 extra arms pops out of his back, so not a big deal when you have 4 hands.
leo23
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3075 Posts
November 26 2011 11:59 GMT
#1351
just woke up! upsets here and there!!
banelings
xCenasfu
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland143 Posts
November 26 2011 12:00 GMT
#1352
Genius is FAR worse than PuMa and NaNiWa lost 1-2 to DRG which is no shame. Both other Protoss lost in PvP .... not sure why you are upset.


Genius is a Code S (not sure how he did this season, but previously) player while PuMa can't even reach the finals in the qualifiers..
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 12:01:40
November 26 2011 12:00 GMT
#1353
On November 26 2011 21:00 xCenasfu wrote:
Show nested quote +
Genius is FAR worse than PuMa and NaNiWa lost 1-2 to DRG which is no shame. Both other Protoss lost in PvP .... not sure why you are upset.


Genius is a Code S (not sure how he did this season, but previously) player while PuMa can't even reach the finals in the qualifiers..


Genius is Code A
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
November 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#1354
Hero feels a lot like Leenock to me. It was clear Leenock had insane talent and yet he kept having mixed results. Like Leenock, Hero will eventually get his act together and show strong consistent code S success.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 12:01:56
November 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#1355
On November 26 2011 20:58 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:57 Logros wrote:
On November 26 2011 20:55 ninjamyst wrote:
HerO's PvZ is godly but he has lost many PvTs and PvPs. What's his record against Puma so far? It is even after his win against Puma in MLG?

I really don't see him beating Puma's TvP.


He already did at MLG.

Besides, the games between them were never really games where HerO's superior mechanics could shine through because of how messed up that matchup was for the last few months.

It's only a matter of time before it becomes obvious who is the better player.


What? No he didn't
MC beat Puma at MLG, not Hero

Hero is 1-4 vs Puma

edit: oh last mlg I forgot
Santiago4ever
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden299 Posts
November 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#1356
Only one swede left

GOOOO SEIPLO!
Ernest Hemingway once wrote: The world is a fine place and worth fighting for. I agree with the second part.
Choboo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Sweden2088 Posts
November 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#1357
SaSe and Naniwa T__T so sad
SaSe fan club manager
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
November 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#1358
On November 26 2011 20:56 sodapop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 20:55 BurningSera wrote:
is 1pm the local ie 12pm to me?:D ^in UK


Yes, that should be correct.


thanks <3 just wake up, asked an stupid question XD
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Carush
Profile Joined June 2011
United States356 Posts
November 26 2011 12:01 GMT
#1359
On November 26 2011 21:00 xCenasfu wrote:
Show nested quote +
Genius is FAR worse than PuMa and NaNiWa lost 1-2 to DRG which is no shame. Both other Protoss lost in PvP .... not sure why you are upset.


Genius is a Code S (not sure how he did this season, but previously) player while PuMa can't even reach the finals in the qualifiers..

Genius got code S early in gsl and is now barely hanging onto it
Puma is actually a top class terran

gsl results usually dont mean that much
naniwa cant win a game in code a yet he does amazing at foreign events
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
November 26 2011 12:02 GMT
#1360
lets go mana!
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
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