EPTOn November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.
i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.
PumA is my favorite player but his TvT isn't top notch so kind a few other that is better them him.
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Radook
Sweden326 Posts
PumA is my favorite player but his TvT isn't top notch so kind a few other that is better them him. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:57 Mycl wrote: He hits Koreans in foreign tournaments thou. I cant help but think people throw the 'only foreign tournaments' trying to say he only beats on scrubs yeah he doesn't get NEARLY as much credit as he deserves, but not qualifying for GSL in its entirety, especially with how easy they're making it, really puts a dent in his credentials | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1351 Posts
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BronzeKnee
United States5212 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:55 mordk wrote: Failing to qualify for Code A multiple times denies that statement. I know he's not in KR anymore, but playing decently in foreign tournaments doesn't cut it for "Top 5 terran". Maybe Top 10. Maybe. What Terran would you put above Puma? Puma took out Losira and Bomber at the last MLG, who are both Code S players. He beat Polt at MLG Orlando. And he just beat DRG, Huk and Idra. This is how I see it: #1 MVP #2 MMA #3 MKP #4 Puma #5 Bomber | ||
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Thurken
961 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:54 Hall0wed wrote: Wow, hate seeing the better player lose to cheese. I hate bo3s, always tend to be less enjoyable games plagued by cheese. I guess you have not seen the last two games. Puma dominated game 1 completely and was ahead in game 2 until he did that huge mistake. He looked stronger today. He did not cheesed his way to the next round. | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
skill isn't based on the amount of tournaments one has won, sorry. pumas wins are in international tourneys too, while he can't qualify for Code A | ||
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rebdomine
6040 Posts
Polt and Jjakji as well. | ||
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Grampz
United States2147 Posts
gumiho, jjakji,polt, nada...sooo many better terrans | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:59 Grampz wrote: yeah he doesn't get NEARLY as much credit as he deserves, but not qualifying for GSL in its entirety, especially with how easy they're making it, really puts a dent in his credentials GSL is the big leagues. It doesn't matter how well you do in foreign tournaments. Look at Naniwa. Allstar abroad and scrub in Korea. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:59 BronzeKnee wrote: What Terran would you put above Puma? Puma took out Losira and Bomber at the last MLG, who are both Code S players. And he just beat DRG, Huk and Idra. This is how I see it: #1 MVP #2 MMA #3 MKP #4 Puma #5 Bomber Supernova, sC, and Ganzi are all for sure better than Puma. Then there are a lot of terrans that are around the same level. | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:59 andaylin wrote: skill isn't based on the amount of tournaments one has won, sorry. pumas wins are in international tourneys too, while he can't qualify for Code A MMA couldn't qualify for Code A either, that's an incredibly stupid argument | ||
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
What, Puma hasn't done anything in korea. The only common tournament those players have been at with puma is mlg and puma has never won an mlg. Puma is not even a top 10 terran in korea. There's a reason he hasn't qualified for gsl one time yet even during open seasons. Puma just has more opportunity than those other players to go to foreign tournaments, so has more international exposure, which tends to blind people into silly statements. | ||
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0ne
Spain2464 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:59 Radook wrote: PumA is my favorite player but his TvT isn't top notch so kind a few other that is better them him. His TvT looked pretty good when he beat Bomber and Polt at MLG | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:57 Mycl wrote: He hits Koreans in foreign tournaments thou. I cant help but think people throw the 'only foreign tournaments' trying to say he only beats on scrubs And he doesn't go too deep in those foreign tournaments when he hits high level koreans. Remember MLG pool play is rather strange always and until deep in the champ bracket you usually get to face only foreigners. PuMa usually gets eliminated early in the "Top 12" range by some korean. You must also remember that foreigner tournaments normally do not include any degree of specific preparation, unlike GSL, which makes the tournament a lot harder since it means you require a different practice type to be successful. I'll list 10 KR terrans who I think are significantly better than PuMa: MVP, MMA, Polt, MKP, Supernova, jjakji, Ganzi, Taeja, Bomber, Happy. And the list could go on, there's many mid-tier korean terrans that are about the same level as him, I'd put him there. Certainly not a top KR terran. | ||
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deathzz
669 Posts
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Thurken
961 Posts
On November 26 2011 22:54 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: puma is now a favourite and thus will lose his next match DH Winter could not be summerized more accurately  | ||
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ItsMeDomLee
Canada2732 Posts
On November 26 2011 23:00 SafeAsCheese wrote: MMA couldn't qualify for Code A either, that's an incredibly stupid argument MMA qualified for Code A... he was knocked out and didn't get the chance to REqualify because he did well at MLG. | ||
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andaylin
United States10830 Posts
On November 26 2011 23:00 SafeAsCheese wrote: MMA couldn't qualify for Code A either, that's an incredibly stupid argument so is your statement of skill equating to number of international tournament wins. | ||
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