• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 09:27
CET 15:27
KST 23:27
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!12[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win0Weekly Cups (October 19-25): Clem triples first in 5.0.175Evil Geniuses - shutting down23ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier7Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1
StarCraft 2
General
No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? [D] Hacker peak in sc2 ? Liquibets sc2 season 30 Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (Oct 26 - Nov 1): MaxPax, herO, Solar win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WardiTV Mondays ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20) RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[D] the control group Simple Questions/Answers [G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 550 Graveyard Shift The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles Mutation # 548 Shining Bright
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Sagi.gg Launcher Released Top Players of October 2026 (EBPD Rankings) BW General Discussion Rollback Netcode in Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [Mixed-Gender CK] Rush+4 vs Best+4 [BSL23] RO24 Group F - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Deus Ex 3!? Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Armies of Exigo - YesYes?
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The Chess Thread
Fan Clubs
Fan Club Resource Thread Reynor Fan Club The Flash Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Why I built Repalyzer (1.1.…
BlueStar
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 9050 users

DreamHack Winter 2011 Day 3 - Page 105

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 636 Next
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2081
On November 26 2011 22:55 abalam wrote:
can't wait for that puma build to get popular on the ladder ...


It's actually Bomber's build.
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2082
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?


Proxy rax into some helion & cloak banshee off 1 base.
It's a "rush", not an "all-in".
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2083
On November 26 2011 22:56 Kewlots wrote:
so i didnt catch what tasteless said will there be more games today ??


whole tournament finishes today.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 13:57:27
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2084
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.


Puma has won more than Bomber ever has, against stronger opponents, lol.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2085
On November 26 2011 22:55 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.

Failing to qualify for Code A multiple times denies that statement. I know he's not in KR anymore, but playing decently in foreign tournaments doesn't cut it for "Top 5 terran". Maybe Top 10. Maybe.


He hits Koreans in foreign tournaments thou. I cant help but think people throw the 'only foreign tournaments' trying to say he only beats on scrubs
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2086
only 1 stream runnin atm right?
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2087
On November 26 2011 22:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:56 VoirDire wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?

11/11 rax into cloaked banshee of 1 base.

Do you know what 11/11 rax means?

Yes? Was that just 1 rax that game?
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2088
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.



ganzi and taeja havent won shieeet
gl hf gg
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2089
On November 26 2011 22:56 Kewlots wrote:
so i didnt catch what tasteless said will there be more games today ??


http://ozzilee.com/dreamhack/
Terran & Potato Salad.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2090
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.

Supernova, TOP, MKP
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2091
On November 26 2011 22:50 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:47 AIOL! wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:39 Eufouria wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:37 hifriend wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:24 Poopi wrote:
Wow Naama is so good :D.
He knows that protoss can't be beaten straight up thus does some shenanigans all-ins and end up winning.
Would be so cool of a story that the last dreamhack winter winner who faded away into non-paying teams / mediocrity trained hard in order to reclaim his title :D.
Gogo I'll be cheering for you

User was temp banned for this post.

I don't understand why this guy got temp banned. It's not really a balance complaint? I mean the sc2 matchups still fluctuate so much and it's pretty common for them to be tilted in such a way that all in's are the best way to consistently win games, so if he by 'straight up' means just macroing and going for the big engagements then there are definitely cases where that isn't a viable option in a matchup.

But that doesn't mean that the matchup is imbalanced, it could just mean that it has to be played in a different way than 'straight up'. That was definitely the case with ZvP a while back when the death ball colo/void play was destroying everything, and is arguably the case in current PvZ. In current TvP, I definitely feel more scared on my protoss favorite's behalf when I see the t go 1/1/1 or some other strong timing than seeing them macro up at the moment.

Its a fine post except where he says protoss can't be beaten straight up, which is a balance complaint and spoils what was a good post otherwise.


Again he directly quote this from the Naama interview... He doesn't need to get banned at all. Sometimes people guet banned so randomly that it threatens me ! seriously WE people from tl need to do something about that, it can't continue !


It's not a random ban at all.


Even if u take that as a balance whine still there's million times worse balance whiners in this thread. Really weird ban imo.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2092
On November 26 2011 22:56 Seiber wrote:
Nice play by Puma, cheese the ledge into cheese build. I think he's my new cheesemaster


Yeah he should have done the far more standard play of letting all his units die in the midfield

GOD DAMN TACTICS
@followMVT
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2093
TLO and sheth casting? Did I hear that right?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2094
On November 26 2011 22:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.


Puma has won more than Bomber ever has, against stronger opponents, lol.

Really? Stronger opponents than Ryung, MMA, and MVP?
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2095
On November 26 2011 22:56 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?

11/11 rax into cloaked banshee of 1 base.


christ if u didnt watch the game don't tell people what puma did when u have no idea. sigh.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2096
On November 26 2011 22:57 MandoRelease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?


Proxy rax into some helion & cloak banshee off 1 base.
It's a "rush", not an "all-in".


That was as allin as you could get.
monXikk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland742 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2097
On November 26 2011 22:55 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.

Failing to qualify for Code A multiple times denies that statement. I know he's not in KR anymore, but playing decently in foreign tournaments doesn't cut it for "Top 5 terran". Maybe Top 10. Maybe.

He lives in Korea lol, in the Slayers house and as far as I know he only recently in November tried to qualify for Code A. His TvZ is beastly check his TLPD, he beat all the best foreigner Z's and whole bunch of Koreans, only lost to Idra and Coca two times.
yet another IdrA's #1 fan
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2098
On November 26 2011 22:56 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?

11/11 rax into cloaked banshee of 1 base.


It wasn't 11/11 you dumbass.It was a normal barrack/ refinery build just that the rax was proxy plus DRG was playing greedy he went for 15 hatch 16 pool. That push should not have done so much damage.This was the build Bomber used in the GSTL too.

User was warned for this post
Play your best
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2099
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Wait, what? Puma one of the top 5 Terrans?

Ok:

Ganzi, MMA, MVP, MKP and Taeja are definitely all better than Puma in my eyes, with sC, Happy, aLive, Clide and theStC also pretty strong contenders.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2100
On November 26 2011 22:54 Caesarion wrote:
Seriously, DRG. You used to be able to crush early pressure with impunity.


That's when people were using bio based pressure and zerg have the leeway to defend with drones. Helions are just.., if you don't have the units, you are going to die. And it's so hard to scout whether they are macro-ing or rushing behind the helions >.>
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 636 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
23:00
King of the Hill #267
EmpressLilyy45
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SHIN 89
BRAT_OK 67
ByuN (SOOP) 24
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 1358
Horang2 1190
Light 948
Mini 715
Bisu 646
Shuttle 580
Soma 557
Soulkey 447
BeSt 425
Stork 388
[ Show more ]
actioN 314
Snow 280
ggaemo 259
firebathero 222
ZerO 204
hero 136
Hyuk 133
Noble 121
Mind 116
Zeus 108
Hyun 95
Leta 91
Bonyth 82
ProTech74
Pusan 71
Killer 70
Mong 68
Rush 63
Sharp 62
Sea.KH 60
Bale 38
Shine 36
JYJ 34
Shinee 31
Hm[arnc] 29
HiyA 22
sorry 22
Aegong 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 20
Bishop 15
soO 15
Sacsri 14
zelot 14
910 12
Terrorterran 12
Free 10
scan(afreeca) 10
Dota 2
qojqva2119
Dendi1030
monkeys_forever302
BananaSlamJamma273
XcaliburYe163
League of Legends
Reynor118
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1377
allub915
kRYSTAL_28
Heroes of the Storm
crisheroes258
Other Games
B2W.Neo834
Lowko431
Liquid`RaSZi336
syndereN272
Fuzer 236
Mew2King118
XaKoH 107
NeuroSwarm66
QueenE64
ArmadaUGS53
Railgan24
Chillindude15
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL269
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Laughngamez YouTube
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• C_a_k_e 4509
• WagamamaTV587
League of Legends
• TFBlade654
Upcoming Events
IntoTheTV X SOOP
1d 20h
Reynor vs Solar
ByuN vs SHIN
Clem vs MaxPax
herO vs Rogue
IPSL
2 days
WorsT vs nOmaD
Dewalt vs andersOn
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
IPSL
3 days
Azhi_Dahaki vs ggnore13
Double vs WIZARD
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
YoungYakov vs Lambo
SHIN vs TBD
Percival vs Shameless
Solar vs TBD
PiGosaur Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
6 days
KCM Race Survival
6 days
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-11-04
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
International ShieldBattery League
BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
Calamity Cup Div. A Season 8
IEM Beijing 2026
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

1xBet Invitational
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Underdog Cup 2026 Div 2-3
PGL Bucharest 2027
BLAST Bounty Winter 2027
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.