• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:22
CEST 15:22
KST 22:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists14[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy21
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers11Maestros of the Game 2 announced32026 GSL Tour plans announced10Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid20
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail MaNa leaves Team Liquid Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued 2026 GSL Tour plans announced
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) SEL Doubles (SC Evo Bimonthly) $5,000 WardiTV TLMC tournament - Presented by Monster Energy
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 520 Moving Fees Mutation # 519 Inner Power
Brood War
General
RepMastered™: replay sharing and analyzer site Pros React To: Tulbo in Ro.16 Group A BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 General Discussion BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group B Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Reappraising The Situation T…
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1886 users

DreamHack Winter 2011 Day 3 - Page 105

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 636 Next
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2081
On November 26 2011 22:55 abalam wrote:
can't wait for that puma build to get popular on the ladder ...


It's actually Bomber's build.
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2082
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?


Proxy rax into some helion & cloak banshee off 1 base.
It's a "rush", not an "all-in".
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2083
On November 26 2011 22:56 Kewlots wrote:
so i didnt catch what tasteless said will there be more games today ??


whole tournament finishes today.
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-26 13:57:27
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2084
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.


Puma has won more than Bomber ever has, against stronger opponents, lol.
Mycl
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1370 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2085
On November 26 2011 22:55 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.

Failing to qualify for Code A multiple times denies that statement. I know he's not in KR anymore, but playing decently in foreign tournaments doesn't cut it for "Top 5 terran". Maybe Top 10. Maybe.


He hits Koreans in foreign tournaments thou. I cant help but think people throw the 'only foreign tournaments' trying to say he only beats on scrubs
Spitmode
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany1510 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2086
only 1 stream runnin atm right?
"Make house -> Robots come out of house -> Robots shoot lazers -> Someone wins"
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2087
On November 26 2011 22:56 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:56 VoirDire wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?

11/11 rax into cloaked banshee of 1 base.

Do you know what 11/11 rax means?

Yes? Was that just 1 rax that game?
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2088
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.



ganzi and taeja havent won shieeet
gl hf gg
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
November 26 2011 13:57 GMT
#2089
On November 26 2011 22:56 Kewlots wrote:
so i didnt catch what tasteless said will there be more games today ??


http://ozzilee.com/dreamhack/
Terran & Potato Salad.
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2090
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.

Supernova, TOP, MKP
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2091
On November 26 2011 22:50 gruff wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:47 AIOL! wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:39 Eufouria wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:37 hifriend wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:24 Poopi wrote:
Wow Naama is so good :D.
He knows that protoss can't be beaten straight up thus does some shenanigans all-ins and end up winning.
Would be so cool of a story that the last dreamhack winter winner who faded away into non-paying teams / mediocrity trained hard in order to reclaim his title :D.
Gogo I'll be cheering for you

User was temp banned for this post.

I don't understand why this guy got temp banned. It's not really a balance complaint? I mean the sc2 matchups still fluctuate so much and it's pretty common for them to be tilted in such a way that all in's are the best way to consistently win games, so if he by 'straight up' means just macroing and going for the big engagements then there are definitely cases where that isn't a viable option in a matchup.

But that doesn't mean that the matchup is imbalanced, it could just mean that it has to be played in a different way than 'straight up'. That was definitely the case with ZvP a while back when the death ball colo/void play was destroying everything, and is arguably the case in current PvZ. In current TvP, I definitely feel more scared on my protoss favorite's behalf when I see the t go 1/1/1 or some other strong timing than seeing them macro up at the moment.

Its a fine post except where he says protoss can't be beaten straight up, which is a balance complaint and spoils what was a good post otherwise.


Again he directly quote this from the Naama interview... He doesn't need to get banned at all. Sometimes people guet banned so randomly that it threatens me ! seriously WE people from tl need to do something about that, it can't continue !


It's not a random ban at all.


Even if u take that as a balance whine still there's million times worse balance whiners in this thread. Really weird ban imo.
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2092
On November 26 2011 22:56 Seiber wrote:
Nice play by Puma, cheese the ledge into cheese build. I think he's my new cheesemaster


Yeah he should have done the far more standard play of letting all his units die in the midfield

GOD DAMN TACTICS
@followMVT
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2093
TLO and sheth casting? Did I hear that right?
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2094
On November 26 2011 22:57 SafeAsCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:56 KMARTRULES2 wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Bomber, MMA, MVP, Ganzi, Taeja. More that I'm forgetting.

Puma is good, but not easily top 5.


Puma has won more than Bomber ever has, against stronger opponents, lol.

Really? Stronger opponents than Ryung, MMA, and MVP?
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2095
On November 26 2011 22:56 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?

11/11 rax into cloaked banshee of 1 base.


christ if u didnt watch the game don't tell people what puma did when u have no idea. sigh.
ItsMeDomLee
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2732 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2096
On November 26 2011 22:57 MandoRelease wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?


Proxy rax into some helion & cloak banshee off 1 base.
It's a "rush", not an "all-in".


That was as allin as you could get.
monXikk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland742 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2097
On November 26 2011 22:55 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.

Failing to qualify for Code A multiple times denies that statement. I know he's not in KR anymore, but playing decently in foreign tournaments doesn't cut it for "Top 5 terran". Maybe Top 10. Maybe.

He lives in Korea lol, in the Slayers house and as far as I know he only recently in November tried to qualify for Code A. His TvZ is beastly check his TLPD, he beat all the best foreigner Z's and whole bunch of Koreans, only lost to Idra and Coca two times.
yet another IdrA's #1 fan
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2098
On November 26 2011 22:56 VoirDire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:55 Weemoed wrote:
Can someone tell me in short what build Puma did?

11/11 rax into cloaked banshee of 1 base.


It wasn't 11/11 you dumbass.It was a normal barrack/ refinery build just that the rax was proxy plus DRG was playing greedy he went for 15 hatch 16 pool. That push should not have done so much damage.This was the build Bomber used in the GSTL too.

User was warned for this post
Play your best
SeaSwift
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Scotland4486 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2099
On November 26 2011 22:54 ambrosiaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2011 22:53 andaylin wrote:
wow that was unexpected of Puma to win against DRG. of all terrans lol.

i'd say puma is easily top 5 terran in the world.


Wait, what? Puma one of the top 5 Terrans?

Ok:

Ganzi, MMA, MVP, MKP and Taeja are definitely all better than Puma in my eyes, with sC, Happy, aLive, Clide and theStC also pretty strong contenders.
babysimba
Profile Joined November 2010
10466 Posts
November 26 2011 13:58 GMT
#2100
On November 26 2011 22:54 Caesarion wrote:
Seriously, DRG. You used to be able to crush early pressure with impunity.


That's when people were using bio based pressure and zerg have the leeway to defend with drones. Helions are just.., if you don't have the units, you are going to die. And it's so hard to scout whether they are macro-ing or rushing behind the helions >.>
Prev 1 103 104 105 106 107 636 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
11:00
Group B
WardiTV1038
TKL 252
Rex121
3DClanTV 81
Liquipedia
Escore
10:00
Week 3
escodisco1597
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 252
Rex 117
trigger 48
StarCraft: Brood War
Jaedong 975
Shuttle 621
Mini 505
BeSt 392
EffOrt 382
Soma 377
actioN 285
Hyuk 276
Snow 208
Hyun 123
[ Show more ]
Rush 105
ToSsGirL 103
NaDa 82
Soulkey 76
hero 75
sorry 68
Aegong 67
[sc1f]eonzerg 56
Backho 55
Pusan 44
scan(afreeca) 42
Sea.KH 40
Mind 37
Icarus 34
JYJ 33
Hm[arnc] 24
Sexy 23
JulyZerg 23
Sharp 22
Bale 17
Terrorterran 14
Rock 5
eros_byul 0
Britney 0
Dota 2
Gorgc1686
qojqva1007
ODPixel372
League of Legends
Reynor75
Counter-Strike
zeus756
edward128
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King80
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr33
Other Games
singsing2357
B2W.Neo1387
hiko689
crisheroes312
DeMusliM286
Lowko284
Sick114
Liquid`VortiX96
djWHEAT57
QueenE34
Liquid`LucifroN32
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV345
Counter-Strike
PGL307
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV220
League of Legends
• Nemesis1962
• Jankos1703
• TFBlade1249
Upcoming Events
OSC
1h 38m
Big Brain Bouts
2h 38m
MaNa vs goblin
Scarlett vs Spirit
Serral vs herO
Korean StarCraft League
13h 38m
CranKy Ducklings
20h 38m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
21h 38m
IPSL
1d 2h
WolFix vs nOmaD
dxtr13 vs Razz
BSL
1d 5h
UltrA vs KwarK
Gosudark vs cavapoo
dxtr13 vs HBO
Doodle vs Razz
Patches Events
1d 8h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 10h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 20h
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 21h
Ladder Legends
2 days
BSL
2 days
StRyKeR vs rasowy
Artosis vs Aether
JDConan vs OyAji
Hawk vs izu
IPSL
2 days
JDConan vs TBD
Aegong vs rasowy
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Bisu vs Ample
Jaedong vs Flash
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Barracks vs Leta
Royal vs Light
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-16
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W3
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.