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Here we go again. This weekend is about good games and good fun. Don't rain on that parade. Play nice guys. Here's the very standard and friendly:

- NO Balance Whine.
- NO Player Bashing.
- NO Caster Bashing.
- NO BM whatsoever.

Breaking these rules (from pg 166 forward) will be met with severe punishment.
spatz
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany153 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14221
leeeenock, keep fighting!
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 01:16:17
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14222
On November 21 2011 10:13 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:12 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:09 Alpino wrote:
How can anyone dare that NaNi does not deserve this?


This. NOONE deserves it anywhere close... Last months on all I hear is how Nestea nd MVP are the best in the world. Naniwa plays them both many times in 3 days and more top koreans + Huk on top of that and absolutely crushes.


Noone is anywhere near to that dominance this tournament. Can anyone say I'm wrong?

Yes, cause anyone who got that deep had to do the same. And Naniwa never beat MVP at all, let alone "many times"


He beat MVP yesterday. Try again.

EDIT: Was Friday (I'm so tired ).
valentine1
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia129 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14223
On November 21 2011 10:14 dtz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:13 valentine1 wrote:
naniwa : 8 games to make it to the final
leenock : 31 games to make it to the final

say what you will about naniwa's skill (he's good), but the winners bracket is pretty favoured.


Yup of course it is. In fact both Naniwa and Leenock came from the Winners Bracket!!

I think you meant Championship bracket / Open bracket =)


yup that's what i meant, my bad! they don't make it easy on open bracket players that's for sure.
P3rytt
Profile Joined August 2011
137 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14224
Annnnnd Leenock with the W! USA USA USA
iNfeRnaL *
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Germany1908 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14225
How does nobody realize the only reason why nani lost is that he forgot / didn't know of that 3rd? That one woulda been dead right away if nani went there...
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14226
Nani should have harassed the third and expanded himself instead of going for the main. It was a tough call though as he almost had enough to break through.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14227
Guys if you don't like 2 base play then hate Blizzard not Naniwa. There's $25,000 on the line here. If Naniwa feels like 2 base strategies are going to give him the best chance to win then that's what he's going to do.
BrauL
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada197 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14228
On November 21 2011 10:13 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:12 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:09 Alpino wrote:
How can anyone dare that NaNi does not deserve this?


This. NOONE deserves it anywhere close... Last months on all I hear is how Nestea nd MVP are the best in the world. Naniwa plays them both many times in 3 days and more top koreans + Huk on top of that and absolutely crushes.


Noone is anywhere near to that dominance this tournament. Can anyone say I'm wrong?

Yes, cause anyone who got that deep had to do the same. And Naniwa never beat MVP at all, let alone "many times"


He beat him yesterday in a bo3.
The Barbarian
yeint
Profile Joined May 2011
Estonia2329 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14229
On November 21 2011 10:13 poor newb wrote:
is this bo5 or bo7?


It's a double elimination tournament, so Naniwa as the undefeated player only has to win this Bo3.

If Leenock wins this Bo3, it turns into a Bo7 with the score from the first Bo3 counting.

i.e. if Leenock wins the next game, they will play again, with the score starting at 2-1 in Leenock's favor.
Not supporting teams who take robber baron money.
Romitelli
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Brunei Darussalam566 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14230
On November 21 2011 10:12 Wallstreet11 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:09 Alpino wrote:
How can anyone dare that NaNi does not deserve this?


This. NOONE deserves it anywhere close... Last months on all I hear is how Nestea nd MVP are the best in the world. Naniwa plays them both many times in 3 days and more top koreans + Huk on top of that and absolutely crushes.


Noone is anywhere near to that dominance this tournament. Can anyone say I'm wrong?


If he was just a bit more mannered, people would support him a lot more I guess. And he doesn't BM like Idra, who QQ's a lot about zerg, randomly rage quits without GG and such, he wins the match and starts bashing a player like nestea, really uncool.
Zed's dead, baby, Zed's dead.
Seiniyta
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium1815 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14231
EGiNcontroL Geoff Robinson
"naniwa is actually a super human... We can bow confirm that" - tasteless on naniwa 2 seconds before he dies ffffuuuuuu
Pokemon Master
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14232
On November 21 2011 10:14 Dominating wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:12 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:09 Alpino wrote:
How can anyone dare that NaNi does not deserve this?


This. NOONE deserves it anywhere close... Last months on all I hear is how Nestea nd MVP are the best in the world. Naniwa plays them both many times in 3 days and more top koreans + Huk on top of that and absolutely crushes.


Noone is anywhere near to that dominance this tournament. Can anyone say I'm wrong?


Because MvP and Nestea are very consistent with their performances.
Naniwa is a great player, and I'm sure he'll be considered a top player if he continues to play at this level.

Well MVP can't beat himself so how is he supposed to prove he's the best?
KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14233
you can do it Leenock!
MMA: U realise MMA: Most of my army EgIdra: fuck off MMA: Killed my orbital MMA: LOL MMA: just saying MMA: u werent loss
Wivyx
Profile Joined May 2009
Norway624 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14234
One Starcraft 2 game. $25.000.

Oh my.
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14235
its funny that everyone praises naniwa for his play when ace and squirtle did the exact same forge expand into 2 base collossus push like a year ago at iem world championship
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14236
On November 21 2011 10:15 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:13 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:12 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:09 Alpino wrote:
How can anyone dare that NaNi does not deserve this?


This. NOONE deserves it anywhere close... Last months on all I hear is how Nestea nd MVP are the best in the world. Naniwa plays them both many times in 3 days and more top koreans + Huk on top of that and absolutely crushes.


Noone is anywhere near to that dominance this tournament. Can anyone say I'm wrong?

Yes, cause anyone who got that deep had to do the same. And Naniwa never beat MVP at all, let alone "many times"

He did once

Not in this tourney.
F-Decoy
Profile Joined June 2011
France245 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14237
Well, that's maybe the sad part about MLG, the seeding. But well, also deserved for players who made this event to the top.
Yoz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia357 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14238
On November 21 2011 10:08 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:05 Yoz wrote:
On November 21 2011 09:58 yeint wrote:
On November 21 2011 09:57 Vei wrote:
No rule about extended series complaining right? I'm not sure what the term is for this, but Leenock having to start 0-2 vs Naniwa in a bo7 is just sickening

i hate MLG for making their GF so anti-climactic, sigh


That's not extended series, that's pretty normal double elimination tournament.

Naniwa hasn't lost a series, so he has an advantage.


Actually, I was thinking about this earlier and isn't it true that...

Extended Series favours the Upper Bracket Player.
Standard Double Elimination favours the Lower Bracket Player.

Imagine the run of games goes N L L N L L.
- In a Naniwa favoured 2-0 Extended Series then Naniwa wins after the 4th game 4-2
- In a Naniwa favoured Double Elimination then Leenock wins after the 6th game? 2-0 (2-1 2-1)


Not according to what Artosis said, the format with your first option of N L L N L L would mean a 4-2 for Leenock, not Naniwa. It opens with a Bo3 that turns into an extended Bo7. It's not an extended finals, it's a Bo3 that can turn into an extended finals, it benefits Leenock more than a standard double elimination finals.


Well in that case it's advantaged to the Lower Bracket Player when compared to a standard Double Elimination?
In the case of L L N N L L N N
- In the MLG Format Leenock wins 4-2.
- In a standard Double Elim it goes to Naniwa.

Overall though, I suppose the MLG Format will give the most possible games which is a win for spectators? =]
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14239
On November 21 2011 10:14 Telcontar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:12 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:09 Alpino wrote:
How can anyone dare that NaNi does not deserve this?


This. NOONE deserves it anywhere close... Last months on all I hear is how Nestea nd MVP are the best in the world. Naniwa plays them both many times in 3 days and more top koreans + Huk on top of that and absolutely crushes.


Noone is anywhere near to that dominance this tournament. Can anyone say I'm wrong?

I would say Leenock probably deserves it a little more. Other than the 0-2 to DRG, he has beaten every single opponent before him. Sure Nani has done the same, but the number of games played is just vastly different.

Except for the whole thing where Naniwa played at almost every other MLG to get that high seeding.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
November 21 2011 01:15 GMT
#14240
On November 21 2011 10:15 WaSa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 10:13 DystopiaX wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:12 Wallstreet11 wrote:
On November 21 2011 10:09 Alpino wrote:
How can anyone dare that NaNi does not deserve this?


This. NOONE deserves it anywhere close... Last months on all I hear is how Nestea nd MVP are the best in the world. Naniwa plays them both many times in 3 days and more top koreans + Huk on top of that and absolutely crushes.


Noone is anywhere near to that dominance this tournament. Can anyone say I'm wrong?

Yes, cause anyone who got that deep had to do the same. And Naniwa never beat MVP at all, let alone "many times"


He beat MVP yesterday. Try again.

It was actually Friday. Try again. :D
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