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HydraLF
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong626 Posts
November 18 2011 03:58 GMT
#421
Can we get results updated on the OP? This is kind of unorganised even for an event match.
Sure.
Beren
Profile Joined June 2010
United States514 Posts
November 18 2011 03:59 GMT
#422
On November 18 2011 12:42 iNcontroL wrote:
Sounds like millennium shouldn't have accepted to play. Also, lalush why no gg in invitational match? Even idra would gg
There

GL at MLG! You aren't going to drop out if you have to play to late are you?
wetmustard
Profile Joined July 2011
United States16 Posts
November 18 2011 04:11 GMT
#423
On November 18 2011 12:59 Beren wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:42 iNcontroL wrote:
Sounds like millennium shouldn't have accepted to play. Also, lalush why no gg in invitational match? Even idra would gg
There

GL at MLG! You aren't going to drop out if you have to play to late are you?

LOL he isn't going to have to play late. You have to win to keep playing.

User was warned for this post
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45450 Posts
November 18 2011 04:12 GMT
#424
Last game was won by

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SlayerS_Sleep
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Lavi
Profile Joined November 2011
Bangladesh793 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 04:35:59
November 18 2011 04:35 GMT
#425

[/QUOTE]


Furthermore, was there a reason you left without showing appropriate sportsmanship? Is it your gimmick to not care/BM nerds, or did you really feel like Golden was just lucky and deserved to be called out?[/QUOTE]

Haha, I don't think lalush left so abrubtly because he thought Golden was a bad player. Lalush literally exploded all of his banelings except one on a queen and took about 25% hp from that queen... it was a cringe worthy blunder and he was probably embarrassed at himself, not that he felt Golden was 'sub-par and got lucky'.
nokz88
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil1253 Posts
November 18 2011 04:54 GMT
#426
On November 18 2011 12:41 TheHova wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:37 nokz88 wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:24 LaLuSh wrote:
We tried to schedule to play this during the day time thursday and friday. But I had exams and afaik diestar had school too. The match had to be played though, so it ended up being scheduled to start around midnight for us (no excuses about that though). Also, you need to realize we're spread very thin player wise at the moment. Tarson is currently not active and Feast was just acquired like two days prior to this clan war. One player having other commitments was enough to spoil a scheduling attempt. And if something unforseen were to happen during a match we didn't really have a healthy pool of replacement players to pick from.

I'd like to continue listing further arguments, but probably best if I just cut this short. Of course we should have showed up with a full team. And it was our honest intention to do so. However, we were barely a full team by this point as it were. Furthermore it was midnight, and then that unforseen thing happened. Wasn't intentional or meant to be disrespectful. Just something that happens sometimes, and something we weren't able to sort out since we're spread very thin at the moment.

You guys were playing a team that kicked a player from the team house, denied him from going to future tournaments and made him drop his Code S spot, all because he forfeited a match.

How do you think your and your team's shananigans will be seen by them? I would guess less than pleased.


I think they're more interested in their own priorities over what SlayerS opinion of their team is.

These things happen, fnatic have done it regularly in team leagues. Obviously you want your full squad but sometimes it's just not possible.

You should have played BW if you think this is bad. Nearly every team/clan struggled to get a team together for a clan war.

Yea, let's bm the heavyweights of the SC2 scene, what a brillant business plan.

Ruining a player's career for a lapse of judgment(Slayers) is bad, but this is just as awful. Very dissapointed.

Look, there must have been a moment where the team had to confirm its presence to the fine IPL crew, and the answer certainly was "yes, we are going to play and we got enough members". RIGHT?

If so, then why did this happen? 4 out of 7? Are you serious? Why not act like a pro, just giving other teams a chance instead of wasting everyone's time?

What becomes of the hard work from the IPL staff? And the Slayers team? And the viewers? Did you catch the last moments of the cast, when CatsPajamas and HD were obviously baffled and trying hard to calm down the viewers, who were going apeshit in the chat? Is all that just worth nothing? Should we just shrug it off?

Not even a official statement? All we get is a TL forum post by Lalush, listing every conceivable excuse there is? At least he apologiz... oh wait, there is not 1 instance of "sorry" in that post.

I'm not saying you should be prosecuted or suffer anything like that, but if we all agree that what Slayers did to Coca was too extreme, I think we would also agree that what Millenium is showing us now is the opposite extreme. God why there can't be a middle road? I mean, between crucifying a player for lack profissionalism and not giving a shit to profissionalism has to be something right? How about being somewhat responsible, issuing official statements and apologies for fuckups? Accept criticisms and do something about your own player if he acts like a douche in a goddamn international tournament? Am I being too unreasonable here?

On November 18 2011 12:52 kidd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:37 nokz88 wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:24 LaLuSh wrote:
We tried to schedule to play this during the day time thursday and friday. But I had exams and afaik diestar had school too. The match had to be played though, so it ended up being scheduled to start around midnight for us (no excuses about that though). Also, you need to realize we're spread very thin player wise at the moment. Tarson is currently not active and Feast was just acquired like two days prior to this clan war. One player having other commitments was enough to spoil a scheduling attempt. And if something unforseen were to happen during a match we didn't really have a healthy pool of replacement players to pick from.

I'd like to continue listing further arguments, but probably best if I just cut this short. Of course we should have showed up with a full team. And it was our honest intention to do so. However, we were barely a full team by this point as it were. Furthermore it was midnight, and then that unforseen thing happened. Wasn't intentional or meant to be disrespectful. Just something that happens sometimes, and something we weren't able to sort out since we're spread very thin at the moment.

You guys were playing a team that kicked a player from the team house, denied him from going to future tournaments and made him drop his Code S spot, all because he forfeited a match.

How do you think your and your team's shananigans will be seen by them? I would guess less than pleased.


There's a huge difference between leaving when you're winning and forfeiting a match because you don't enough players.

I don't even think SlayerS cares. They won, they'll get their money and this isn't nearly as serious as something like gstl or proleague.

Lemme recall what happened last week... oh yea, now I remember. aTn was lacking a player but since they somewhat care about the viewers and stuff, they called Goody to step in.

About Slayers not caring about profissionalism in e-sports, be it on small or large events: this past week tells me they somewhat do.
in a state of trance
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
November 18 2011 05:22 GMT
#427
On November 18 2011 12:24 LaLuSh wrote:
We tried to schedule to play this during the day time thursday and friday. But I had exams and afaik diestar had school too. The match had to be played though, so it ended up being scheduled to start around midnight for us (no excuses about that though). Also, you need to realize we're spread very thin player wise at the moment. Tarson is currently not active and Feast was just acquired like two days prior to this clan war. One player having other commitments was enough to spoil a scheduling attempt. And if something unforseen were to happen during a match we didn't really have a healthy pool of replacement players to pick from.

I'd like to continue listing further arguments, but probably best if I just cut this short. Of course we should have showed up with a full team. And it was our honest intention to do so. However, we were barely a full team by this point as it were. Furthermore it was midnight, and then that unforseen thing happened. Wasn't intentional or meant to be disrespectful. Just something that happens sometimes, and something we weren't able to sort out since we're spread very thin at the moment.





Why are you trying to make so many lame excuses? Honestly, saying these sort of things never helps to improve one's image. You are much better off accepting your follies and going on with your life.

Also I don't know where you live, but I'll assume France or somewhere in the same timezone. Midnight for you is 8am in Korea, which could be just as unreasonable for them.

You lost to arguably the best team in Korea, I don't think anyone in their right mind actually thought Mill stood a chance.

Also, hopefully this settles down some of the massive Stephano over-hyping. Could really do with less of that zealotry everywhere.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 05:27:48
November 18 2011 05:27 GMT
#428
Knowing that the games would be casted from replays, I held on to a glimmer of hope that maybe, just maybe, Slayers had played Coca before the "incident", and I would get to see him play just for one more time...Alas
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
November 18 2011 05:33 GMT
#429
On November 18 2011 13:11 wetmustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:59 Beren wrote:
On November 18 2011 12:42 iNcontroL wrote:
Sounds like millennium shouldn't have accepted to play. Also, lalush why no gg in invitational match? Even idra would gg
There

GL at MLG! You aren't going to drop out if you have to play to late are you?

LOL he isn't going to have to play late. You have to win to keep playing.

Yah BM one of the nicer and more vocal sc2 players out there. Someone who has already done more for E-sports then 99% of anyone connected in some manner,whether it is a fan or a player.

GL Incontrol.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
November 18 2011 05:36 GMT
#430
On November 18 2011 12:42 iNcontroL wrote:
Sounds like millennium shouldn't have accepted to play. Also, lalush why no gg in invitational match? Even idra would gg
There

Why don't you win a match at MLG?

User was warned for this post
OmniEulogy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada6600 Posts
November 18 2011 05:46 GMT
#431
SlayerS fighting!
LiquidDota Staff
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
November 18 2011 05:48 GMT
#432
I'm not a fan of Millenium at all but I don't really mind the BM or forfeit. I think people are making a bigger deal about it than it should be.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
JerKy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)3013 Posts
November 18 2011 05:49 GMT
#433
Wow all this drama... I cant believe I stopped watching before it happened :|
You can type "StarCraft" with just your left hand.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
November 18 2011 05:52 GMT
#434
On November 18 2011 14:36 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:42 iNcontroL wrote:
Sounds like millennium shouldn't have accepted to play. Also, lalush why no gg in invitational match? Even idra would gg
There

Why don't you win a match at MLG?

Why do you have to be a dick? He's won matches in MLG before afaik, maybe just not group stages.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
November 18 2011 05:54 GMT
#435
On November 18 2011 14:36 Megatronn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:42 iNcontroL wrote:
Sounds like millennium shouldn't have accepted to play. Also, lalush why no gg in invitational match? Even idra would gg
There

Why don't you win a match at MLG?

Who are you again? Oh, no one knows. Incontrol is a much better player than you, in all likely-hood. He is also an esteemed member of this forum. Next time check to see if you're on Youtube before you hit the "post" button. Thanks.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
November 18 2011 06:09 GMT
#436
On November 18 2011 14:22 Hall0wed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 12:24 LaLuSh wrote:
We tried to schedule to play this during the day time thursday and friday. But I had exams and afaik diestar had school too. The match had to be played though, so it ended up being scheduled to start around midnight for us (no excuses about that though). Also, you need to realize we're spread very thin player wise at the moment. Tarson is currently not active and Feast was just acquired like two days prior to this clan war. One player having other commitments was enough to spoil a scheduling attempt. And if something unforseen were to happen during a match we didn't really have a healthy pool of replacement players to pick from.

I'd like to continue listing further arguments, but probably best if I just cut this short. Of course we should have showed up with a full team. And it was our honest intention to do so. However, we were barely a full team by this point as it were. Furthermore it was midnight, and then that unforseen thing happened. Wasn't intentional or meant to be disrespectful. Just something that happens sometimes, and something we weren't able to sort out since we're spread very thin at the moment.





Why are you trying to make so many lame excuses? Honestly, saying these sort of things never helps to improve one's image. You are much better off accepting your follies and going on with your life.

Also I don't know where you live, but I'll assume France or somewhere in the same timezone. Midnight for you is 8am in Korea, which could be just as unreasonable for them.

You lost to arguably the best team in Korea, I don't think anyone in their right mind actually thought Mill stood a chance.

Also, hopefully this settles down some of the massive Stephano over-hyping. Could really do with less of that zealotry everywhere.


Shit jappens get over it.
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
HuKPOWA
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1604 Posts
November 18 2011 06:09 GMT
#437
lol now ppl are trying to insult Incontrol b/c Lalush bm'd out of the game....ouch tough crowd :\
Alex.IGN
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1050 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-18 06:13:45
November 18 2011 06:13 GMT
#438
On November 18 2011 12:58 HydraLF wrote:
Can we get results updated on the OP? This is kind of unorganised even for an event match.


Apologies, staff being all over the place due to MLG travel disrupted that. Will fix it up soon!
IGN eSports StarCraft 2 Division Manager
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
November 18 2011 06:13 GMT
#439
Lol @millenium they do everything to have a bad reputation.
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
November 18 2011 06:14 GMT
#440
What I learned from that thread :

* SlayerS was playing for the show and they won.
* Curiously Adelscott was the only play in [M] to win a game. It was a PvP
* Lalush left a game without gg.
* Millenium couldn't field their last player and had to forfeit. Lalush explained clearly the reasons

That's from the good part. Now the bad part :

* You can troll people and insult them as long as these are french, god forbid you, do NOT do the same with the mighty USA.
* Our fellow US friends think their own moral value are the value that the world should respect.
* People are getting all stinky and arrogant and insults each other.
* Nobody is going to get banned.

Some might say, there is a strong bias towards a certain attitude ...
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