EPTOn November 14 2011 18:02 RQShatter wrote:
Can someone quote what idra said so I can see it.
Can someone quote what idra said so I can see it.
see page 30, its on there, somehow I cant give a link to his post so thats why I do it this way
[GCPL Final] Empire vs EG - Page 39
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Farone
Netherlands1219 Posts
see page 30, its on there, somehow I cant give a link to his post so thats why I do it this way | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:06 UberDrive wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/QX2t0.png) Sigh... This is what he said. No gg is one thing, but this is just to much. Tbh Idra looked like he was getting better and then this. Its just sad to see how idra behaves. If you are at this level, calling someone awful and claiming that he wins only due to imb is just sad. I mean I dont see Idra apologizing when he win with stupied zerg builds that atm are just shit strong. The game is what it is, its not Kas fault that Terran can do that. He does what he has to do to win. I honestly do not understand how anybody can support Idra. He is a shame to esport tbh and just act so immature. Its really just sad to see. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
congratulations to empire for winning the whole thing! Thought EG had it for sure when axslav was up 1-0 if he had just won one more time xD | ||
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Romasanta
Australia52 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:25 Killmouse wrote: everytime idra looses, the thread turns to a balance discussion lol haha  OR it becomes a discussion about how the other player "cheesed" him. Considering "cheese" is part of the game, I suggest people stop sooking and get used to it. Kas' strategy prevailed, simple as that... | ||
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scruffeh
England196 Posts
On November 14 2011 18:20 purpose wrote: This is what he said. No gg is one thing, but this is just to much. Tbh Idra looked like he was getting better and then this. Its just sad to see how idra behaves. If you are at this level, calling someone awful and claiming that he wins only due to imb is just sad. I mean I dont see Idra apologizing when he win with stupied zerg builds that atm are just shit strong. The game is what it is, its not Kas fault that Terran can do that. He does what he has to do to win. I honestly do not understand how anybody can support Idra. He is a shame to esport tbh and just act so immature. Its really just sad to see. I like Idra and Kas, but it's a little bit feeble to tilt like this. Kas is a decent player and did well. I feel bad for Idra having to play on Xel'Naga, but that was the previous series, and the amount of ragequits that he did over the 2 series only served to motivate Kas. Idra has so much big tournament experience (more than Kas), and he should have done better. I can't think of a Terran in the world who would want to go in to a macro game with Idra, it's his strength, and Zerg's strength in general. It's not exactly a new or surprising strategy to try and do a lot of damage early on. | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
I just think this is really poor by Idra. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
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Kreb
4834 Posts
On November 14 2011 18:26 blade55555 wrote: lol this thread turned into a gold mine rofl been laughing at the fans and haters :D congratulations to empire for winning the whole thing! Thought EG had it for sure when axslav was up 1-0 if he had just won one more time xD 25pages of game talk. 15pages of Idra talk (and more to come!). Classic! TB had a point..... | ||
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Pandinus
Sweden29 Posts
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Baozer
Sweden159 Posts
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
EDIT: Also the actual content starts at 22 minutes after a ton of random music in the VOD. | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 14 2011 17:25 centinel4 wrote: how do u measure level of play if not by achievements? lol? if you win -> u get achievements -> u are a good player bottom line. the more achievements -> the better player you are. e.g Roger Federer has 100000000000 tournaments, the more grand slams, etc. -> best player in fkn history. Nadal beats Federer a lot. doesnt matter.. Federer is still the best player in fkn history because he has the more achievements. ok let me explain it to you when thorzain came into the scene, he had less wins than fruitdealer, mc, naniwa, kas 1 month later- thorzain was the tsl champion. so at the start of the tsl3, thorzain had ZERO achievements yet he still beat everyone. so, according to you thorzain was the worst player in the world at that time, when in fact he was 3 weeks away from beating the world's best korean player at that time, without lag cuz MC was in koppenhagen. so how do you explain this? Thorzain was the worlds worst player and in 3 weeks he practiced so much he could beat MC?  you see now how your logic is flawed? achievements is a good way to tell if someone is a good player or not, is it good enough to tell his exact skill level? nope, it's really not hard to understand or are you unable to comprehend that having the most achievements is not equal to playing better? | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 14 2011 19:10 scruffeh wrote: I like Idra and Kas, but it's a little bit feeble to tilt like this. Kas is a decent player and did well. I feel bad for Idra having to play on Xel'Naga, but that was the previous series, and the amount of ragequits that he did over the 2 series only served to motivate Kas. Idra has so much big tournament experience (more than Kas), and he should have done better. I can't think of a Terran in the world who would want to go in to a macro game with Idra, it's his strength, and Zerg's strength in general. It's not exactly a new or surprising strategy to try and do a lot of damage early on. i guess you feel bad for Kas too because he had to play on tal darim 0.9 where tvz is much worse statistically than zvt on xel'naga, right? and there are plenty of terrans who could easily beat him in a macro game, stop being ridiculous. macro might be his strength, but try to remember that in mlg vs bomber even though he won the series bomber was consistently outmacroing him, terran up on supply vs a macro zerg, that's cute isn't it. | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
Kas must be very pleased with Idra's whine, I certainly am. I'm proud of you, man! Go Ukraine :D | ||
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scruffeh
England196 Posts
On November 14 2011 21:35 msjakofsky wrote: i guess you feel bad for Kas too because he had to play on tal darim 0.9 where tvz is much worse statistically than zvt on xel'naga, right? and there are plenty of terrans who could easily beat him in a macro game, stop being ridiculous. macro might be his strength, but try to remember that in mlg vs bomber even though he won the series bomber was consistently outmacroing him, terran up on supply vs a macro zerg, that's cute isn't it. Yes, I do, but Kas isn't the tilt machine that Idra is, he can deal with playing on an unfavoured map. I never said it was impossible, and I would give any decent Korean Terran a chance in a macro game with him, I just meant that it's preferable to try and kill him early, so that's what people often try to do. I'm not sure what your point is with Bomber, he's one of the best macro players in the world, agreed, and Idra beat him, right? Idra also beet Puma in macro games recently. It's doable, but Idra's strength is obviously 3+ bases onwards. | ||
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razy
Russian Federation899 Posts
On November 14 2011 21:50 Reasonable wrote: Nice! Kas! Kas must be very pleased with Idra's whine, I certainly am. I'm proud of you, man! Go Ukraine :D knowing kas, he doesn't give a fuck. I'm sure he was more concerned with his underperformance in the rest of his games. | ||
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 14 2011 21:55 scruffeh wrote: Yes, I do, but Kas isn't the tilt machine that Idra is, he can deal with playing on an unfavoured map. I never said it was impossible, and I would give any decent Korean Terran a chance in a macro game with him, I just meant that it's preferable to try and kill him early, so that's what people often try to do. I'm not sure what your point is with Bomber, he's one of the best macro players in the world, agreed, and Idra beat him, right? Idra also beet Puma in macro games recently. It's doable, but Idra's strength is obviously 3+ bases onwards. Bomber lost but he was outmacroing idra hard my point is that there are plenty of players who have just as good or better macro and you say "noone in the world would want to play him in late game" or something like that, which is a little bit too worshipy | ||
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Vertical
Indonesia4317 Posts
On November 14 2011 22:00 gruff wrote: Kas is pretty immune to bm, he usually ignores it. Kas is such a one cool guy super Happy EG is losing :D (instead of empire winning) | ||
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Netherlands8351 Posts
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