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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:23 StarVe wrote: Also, he won WCG Ukraine when players like Dimaga, White-Ra, Strelok and HappyZerg attended. I stand corrected in that case. But I still wouldn't call his tournament results as impressive as IdrA's, not by a long shot. | ||
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s3rp
Germany3192 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:23 SafeAsCheese wrote: Hellions give map control for the ling comment, and queens need to be injecting. He had his spare queen at the ramp. Yes they do but when the ling dies that you positioned infront of your base you can move one or more Queens to deny entry to the base via blocking the ramp. Then put spine(s) behind it and the Helions will not get in without taking heavy losses. | ||
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skrotcyk
Sweden432 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:22 cklrkzk wrote: what? Kas played final in Copenhagen games,lose to MC(when MC was in best form). yes and that's his absolute best lan achievement which only had 4 good players in it. | ||
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Deckkie
Netherlands1595 Posts
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:16 4Servy wrote: kas is a better player than idra overall I think so I dont see why all this whine is needed. I can win with zerg vs top terrans to if idd just make 80 drones everygame 1 spine, 4 bases and get all tech infrastructure and hope people dont attack me. I am agree with you + overall kas is way more solide than idra against players weaker than him ( never less than 80% ratio in EU server since the beta of SC2) | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
Well played by empire, it's a great team and I hope they will continue to have good results. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
Fuck yeah Empire! Kas playing like a beast lately. | ||
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TolEranceNA
Canada434 Posts
Congratz Empire. | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:26 AIOL! wrote: I am agree with you + overall kas is way more solide than idra against players weaker than him ( never less than 80% ratio in EU server since the beta of SC2) How is the guy that has never beaten a single Korean and who has only one LAN victory better than IdrA? Are you actually being serious right now? | ||
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:26 Deckkie wrote: Lately I see more and more Zergs going roaches against Terran, wonder if this is the reason. Stephano and Nerchio go roaches in zvt all the time- people are just pretending that building a roach warren would be sooo bad for idra cuz if you have a roach warren you have 0% chance in zvt to make a nice excuse for idra for playing bad | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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hitpoint
United States1511 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:26 AIOL! wrote: I am agree with you + overall kas is way more solide than idra against players weaker than him ( never less than 80% ratio in EU server since the beta of SC2) I'm not sure if ladder ratio is the best measure of who's more consistent. It's accepted that zerg is more volatile and susceptible to all-ins and terran rarely loses to cheese. Lots of ladder for pros is fighting off all-ins. | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:28 KvltMan wrote: How is the guy that has never beaten a single Korean and who has only one LAN victory better than IdrA? Are you actually being serious right now? Did not kas 4-0ed Nada?  | ||
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Brotatolol
United States1742 Posts
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msjakofsky
1169 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:28 KvltMan wrote: How is the guy that has never beaten a single Korean and who has only one LAN victory better than IdrA? Are you actually being serious right now? achievements =/= level of play it's a subjective matter, why can't someone think one player is better than the other when there is no true evidence. and no, the fact that kas doesn't enter as many tournaments as idra is not evidence cuz it has nothing to do with performance idra has better achievements- this is a fact idra is a better player- this is not a fact it's so simple, try not to rage if someone doesn't think that your favorite player is the best in the world | ||
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AIOL!
France962 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:30 hitpoint wrote: I'm not sure if ladder ratio is the best measure of who's more consistent. It's accepted that zerg is more volatile and susceptible to all-ins and terran rarely loses to cheese. Lots of ladder for pros is fighting off all-ins. Since some european zergs have an absolutly ridiculous ratio (Stephano, Nerchio...) i think that zergplay is less volatile than the early SC2 time. | ||
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skrotcyk
Sweden432 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:29 msjakofsky wrote: Stephano and Nerchio go roaches in zvt all the time- people are just pretending that building a roach warren would be sooo bad for idra cuz if you have a roach warren you have 0% chance in zvt to make a nice excuse for idra for playing bad u so have no clue at all of what your talking about if u think stephano goes roaches all the time in zvt. and for that matter i've seen stephano been slaughtered by this build many times too. | ||
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KvltMan
Sweden1609 Posts
And GoOdy/Adelscott beat NesTea/MVP too, do you honestly think that they are the better players? Though I will admit that Kas was prolly better then NaDa back then. But look, I like Kas a lot, he is my favorite terran streamer after GosiTerran, but really? Kas does not even come close to IdrA's tournament success, and it seems quite delusional to say that he is "more solid" because he cranks out so many ladder games. | ||
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FunnelC4kes
Ireland462 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46428 Posts
On November 14 2011 07:05 ShadezOwnage wrote: idra is a victim of himself. also, fck demuslim and huk for not playing this and auto winning Seriously +1 to this. Wouldn't have even needed the ace match, but I can't believe IdrA doesn't cheese-proof himself. So damn greedy. I don't blame Kas at all for playing the way he did to win those three games. He got roflstomped in the other 2 (longer, macro, standard) games, and you play to win, period. Congratulations to Empire, but I wanted EG to win and I'm facepalming because EG totally threw that series. | ||
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