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[GCPL Final] Empire vs EG - Page 33

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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
November 13 2011 22:13 GMT
#641
On November 14 2011 07:12 Tachion wrote:
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On November 14 2011 07:08 Eppa! wrote:
On November 14 2011 07:07 BandonBanshee wrote:
Is it possable to not be cost effective with hellions? Divebomb into a mineral line and your gaurenteed to kill enough drones to make it worth it.

Watch when people do that to DRG 90% of the time they get destroyed. Its silly to QQ if IdRA looked at mini map and attack with lings he could have held. He let the hellions get past it with like 2 hits

Actually DRG has been losing quite a bit lately to hellion builds when he tries to skip roaches.


And when DRG goes roaches, he usually losses against the decent terrans.

That's how much of a crutch roaches are in that TvZ matchup.
Tanuki
Profile Joined March 2011
Russian Federation51 Posts
November 13 2011 22:13 GMT
#642
Soo awful by Kas =) Gz to team Empire.
Although, Kas should really work on his TvZ. After Asus Rog it seemed that Idra had his emotions pretty much under control. Apparently, he still has a long way to go.
Anyway, I'm still concerned about Happy and Aristeo since they are going to represent Russia at the next WCG.

P.S. I love how Beastyqt's Serbian flag is similar to Russian and ppl tend to mix them up =)
brachester
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia1786 Posts
November 13 2011 22:13 GMT
#643
On November 14 2011 07:09 msjakofsky wrote:
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On November 14 2011 07:05 Micket wrote:
The only games Kas wins are on Xelnaga, or with double reactor hellion.


yeah double reactor helion on 2 bases transitioning into tank/marine is pure cheese

and the game on Xelnaga had nothing to do with the map. idra did a fail all-in

get your fanboy bias out of here

get that definition of cheese out of here first
I hate all this singing
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#644
eg would have roflstompped had they used huk and demuslim, oh well
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
November 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#645
Oh, it's over. Not surprised with anything, the lineup spoke for itself.
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
November 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#646
On November 14 2011 07:12 BandonBanshee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:11 n00b3rt wrote:
On November 14 2011 07:10 BandonBanshee wrote:
On November 14 2011 07:08 Eppa! wrote:
On November 14 2011 07:07 BandonBanshee wrote:
Is it possable to not be cost effective with hellions? Divebomb into a mineral line and your gaurenteed to kill enough drones to make it worth it.

Watch when people do that to DRG 90% of the time they get destroyed.

Ya you'll lose all your hellions but what does it matter when you've killed 14 drones + enough lings to stop a counter attack. Its not like they cost gas or anything.

Compared to all the gas that the drones and lings cost

Since when do drones and lings counter hellions? Lol wtf.

read your previous post, lol
Yeah, whatever
skrotcyk
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden432 Posts
November 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#647
On November 14 2011 07:09 msjakofsky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:05 Micket wrote:
The only games Kas wins are on Xelnaga, or with double reactor hellion.


yeah double reactor helion on 2 bases transitioning into tank/marine is pure cheese

and the game on Xelnaga had nothing to do with the map. idra did a fail all-in

get your fanboy bias out of here


he all ined cuz of the map, get ur bias out of here plx
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
November 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#648
On November 14 2011 07:11 hitpoint wrote:
So the entire league ended with two mass hellion cheeses and one xel'naga auto win, but people are complaining about some mild bm instead...


It's not cheese. In a sense, Idra "cheesed" more than Kas, though his "cheese" was blindly build drones without scouting.

Kas went 2fact reactor hellions which isn't cheese in the slightest.
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
November 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#649
On November 14 2011 07:10 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:09 msjakofsky wrote:
On November 14 2011 07:05 Micket wrote:
The only games Kas wins are on Xelnaga, or with double reactor hellion.


yeah double reactor helion on 2 bases transitioning into tank/marine is pure cheese

and the game on Xelnaga had nothing to do with the map. idra did a fail all-in

get your fanboy bias out of here


It's allin or lose on XNC. You either allin when T is on 1 base or allin right before they are about to take their 3rd.


zvt on xel'naga: 41%, that's no way impossible

on that version of tal'darim, tvz is 37%. so? idra's win doesn't matter either?

people need to stop pulling excuses out of their asses whenever a player loses
Hrrrrm
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2081 Posts
November 13 2011 22:14 GMT
#650
On November 14 2011 07:10 StarVe wrote:
I don't care if some of you are mad about the way Empire won, but they played very well in most of their matches in GCPL and deserve more recognition than they get. Also, Kas has an incredible record in team leagues, even if he didn't play to his fullest potential this time, overall the win is deserved. IdrA failed to adapt to his strategies, so why shouldn't he win?


Exactly. Idra's strength is late game macro and Kas clearly doesn't want to do that, why the hell should he? In the end you do what you feel gives you the best chances of winning, Kas did and he won. You play to win the game, not get to 200/200 first.
alot = a lot (TWO WORDS)
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
November 13 2011 22:15 GMT
#651
On November 14 2011 07:10 skrotcyk wrote:
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On November 14 2011 07:06 4Servy wrote:
zerg is freewin if they get to mutas and 3 base so I dont get all the whiners saying kas doing gimmicks bc really if you dont you are playing from a insane disadvantage.


then ur terrible, just look at gsl they are fine going up against mutas and more than 3bases.


There's a huge fucking difference between going to 3 bases safely and going to 3 bases on one spine and 8 lings then whining and talking like you have a clue when you die 50 seconds later.

Also, yeah, Servy, he's pretty bad, saw him low Diamond last time.
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
November 13 2011 22:15 GMT
#652
On November 14 2011 07:14 K3Nyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:11 hitpoint wrote:
So the entire league ended with two mass hellion cheeses and one xel'naga auto win, but people are complaining about some mild bm instead...


It's not cheese. In a sense, Idra "cheesed" more than Kas, though his "cheese" was blindly build drones without scouting.

Kas went 2fact reactor hellions which isn't cheese in the slightest.


Hellions deny any scouting and that map has such a large base that you can't OL scout.
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 13 2011 22:15 GMT
#653
On November 14 2011 07:10 Micket wrote:
At least Idra has done Kas a favour, and immortalised him, just like he did with Cruncher.


This is just a disgrace to Kas
Always look on the bright side of life
Mosquitow
Profile Joined September 2011
England510 Posts
November 13 2011 22:15 GMT
#654
On November 14 2011 07:11 hitpoint wrote:
So the entire league ended with two mass hellion cheeses and one xel'naga auto win, but people are complaining about some mild bm instead...

Not sure if serious...
msjakofsky
Profile Joined June 2011
1169 Posts
November 13 2011 22:15 GMT
#655
On November 14 2011 07:13 brachester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:09 msjakofsky wrote:
On November 14 2011 07:05 Micket wrote:
The only games Kas wins are on Xelnaga, or with double reactor hellion.


yeah double reactor helion on 2 bases transitioning into tank/marine is pure cheese

and the game on Xelnaga had nothing to do with the map. idra did a fail all-in

get your fanboy bias out of here

get that definition of cheese out of here first


i was being sarcastic about cheese if you hadn't noticed
Gonsor
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany7 Posts
November 13 2011 22:16 GMT
#656
On November 14 2011 07:12 HQuality wrote:
kas win xnc = "bad map, nothing to talk about"
idra win taldarim = "kas noob can't win normal game from idra"

normal TL thread

Hehe yeah, exactly my thought.

Grats to Empire, and thanks for some awesome last game bm amusement
4Servy
Profile Joined August 2008
Netherlands1542 Posts
November 13 2011 22:16 GMT
#657
kas is a better player than idra overall I think so I dont see why all this whine is needed. I can win with zerg vs top terrans to if idd just make 80 drones everygame 1 spine, 4 bases and get all tech infrastructure and hope people dont attack me.
K3Nyy
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1961 Posts
November 13 2011 22:17 GMT
#658
On November 14 2011 07:15 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:14 K3Nyy wrote:
On November 14 2011 07:11 hitpoint wrote:
So the entire league ended with two mass hellion cheeses and one xel'naga auto win, but people are complaining about some mild bm instead...


It's not cheese. In a sense, Idra "cheesed" more than Kas, though his "cheese" was blindly build drones without scouting.

Kas went 2fact reactor hellions which isn't cheese in the slightest.


Hellions deny any scouting and that map has such a large base that you can't OL scout.


So the reaction to no information is to mass drones? Lol, please stop being biased.
KvltMan
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sweden1609 Posts
November 13 2011 22:17 GMT
#659
On November 14 2011 07:15 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:10 Micket wrote:
At least Idra has done Kas a favour, and immortalised him, just like he did with Cruncher.


This is just a disgrace to Kas

Wouldn't dare to say that he's immortilized Kas either, it was some run-of-the-mill BM that you can come across on the ladder.
Also, the fact that IdrA has said that he actually thinks that Kas is good sort of makes this entire thing less "omg idra so bm y u looose".
Get crunk
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4740 Posts
November 13 2011 22:17 GMT
#660
On November 14 2011 07:14 Hrrrrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 14 2011 07:10 StarVe wrote:
I don't care if some of you are mad about the way Empire won, but they played very well in most of their matches in GCPL and deserve more recognition than they get. Also, Kas has an incredible record in team leagues, even if he didn't play to his fullest potential this time, overall the win is deserved. IdrA failed to adapt to his strategies, so why shouldn't he win?


Exactly. Idra's strength is late game macro and Kas clearly doesn't want to do that, why the hell should he? In the end you do what you feel gives you the best chances of winning, Kas did and he won. You play to win the game, not get to 200/200 first.


I couldnt agree more.
Pathetic Greta hater.
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