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On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate.
I'm not sure, but i think Idra and Stephano never played together in a tourney, or even in a showmatch. I hope the first time will come soon 
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On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Dominate....first round of code A??? Please we need to wait and see. I love Stephano, he's unstoppable right now in foreigners scene but when it come down to serious business. I don't think he has a slightest chance against any SlayerS terran or just normal code A players.
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On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate.
Yeah just like how he dominated MLG orlando.
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On November 07 2011 10:43 chosenkerrigan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Yeah just like how he dominated MLG orlando.
That's like calling Idra a good player because he dominated ESWC.
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Hope Stephano wins. Wanna see how his genius compares against the koreans.
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On November 07 2011 10:46 Zeborg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:43 chosenkerrigan wrote:On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Yeah just like how he dominated MLG orlando. That's like calling Idra a good player because he dominated ESWC.
What I'm saying is I hate people over-exaggerate how good Stephano is when he has never fucking been to GSL.
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On November 07 2011 10:49 chosenkerrigan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:46 Zeborg wrote:On November 07 2011 10:43 chosenkerrigan wrote:On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Yeah just like how he dominated MLG orlando. That's like calling Idra a good player because he dominated ESWC. What I'm saying is I hate people over-exaggerate how good Stephano is when he has never fucking been to GSL.
Then just say that directly...?
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On November 07 2011 10:50 Zeborg wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:49 chosenkerrigan wrote:On November 07 2011 10:46 Zeborg wrote:On November 07 2011 10:43 chosenkerrigan wrote:On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Yeah just like how he dominated MLG orlando. That's like calling Idra a good player because he dominated ESWC. What I'm saying is I hate people over-exaggerate how good Stephano is when he has never fucking been to GSL. Then just say that directly...?
Me and a few other people in the above posts have already stated it as clearly as possible. It's just the fanboys can never get it.
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What were the results? (FYI Stephano is a good player ) Edit: Thankyou StarVe
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On November 07 2011 10:52 chosenkerrigan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:50 Zeborg wrote:On November 07 2011 10:49 chosenkerrigan wrote:On November 07 2011 10:46 Zeborg wrote:On November 07 2011 10:43 chosenkerrigan wrote:On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Yeah just like how he dominated MLG orlando. That's like calling Idra a good player because he dominated ESWC. What I'm saying is I hate people over-exaggerate how good Stephano is when he has never fucking been to GSL. Then just say that directly...? Me and a few other people in the above posts have already stated it as clearly as possible. It's just the fanboys can never get it.
Fanboys (especially fanboys of top foreigners such as idra and stephano) tend to be overenthusiastic. It is what it is.
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On November 07 2011 10:55 McFeser wrote:What were the results? (FYI Stephano is a good player  ) + Show Spoiler +
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Well, he did beat a winner of the most recent GSL. And a former runner-up. As he isn't living in Korea, what more do you want? He can only beat the players he is matched against..
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On November 07 2011 10:49 chosenkerrigan wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:46 Zeborg wrote:On November 07 2011 10:43 chosenkerrigan wrote:On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Yeah just like how he dominated MLG orlando. That's like calling Idra a good player because he dominated ESWC. What I'm saying is I hate people over-exaggerate how good Stephano is when he has never fucking been to GSL.
I dont like guys who exaggerate his level too, 100% agree.
But i dont like when people minimize his performance ("No real good koreans at IPL, lucky bracket", "ESWC lineup was a joke and MKP was cold", "Lol ! Online dont means anything, lags, 7:00 in the morning in Korea, he's just lucky").
He didn't go in Korea yet, it's true. He doesn't play 10h per a day, true. He beats MKP offline, true. He won IPL3, beating many korean players, true.
Can he beat the best of korean players, his fanboys can't say "Yes absolutly", but you can't say "No, not a chance".
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On November 07 2011 10:33 tuho12345 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Dominate....first round of code A??? Please we need to wait and see. I love Stephano, he's unstoppable right now in foreigners scene but when it come down to serious business. I don't think he has a slightest chance against any SlayerS terran or just normal code A players.
i dunno about that, i see him beating ryung and possibly ganzi pretty easily... I still will say that a korean terran will be his weakness, but it wont be from just anybody..
Terrans that could hand his ass to him unquestionably are IMHAPPY/MVP/SC/MMA. In mlg he lost to boxer and thestc, but i wont really count those terrans because he did own them at IPL and i dont think he was playing in his right mind at mlg, he always said he does not practice much not because hes lazy but because he gets tired fast and mlg is a stamina tournament especially from open bracket. ( against zerg probably only losira/nestea/DRG stand a chance against him and against protoss no korean toss can beat him i assure you of that)
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You make yourself look ridiculous when you say no Korean toss can beat him.
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On November 07 2011 11:09 jinixxx123 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 10:33 tuho12345 wrote:On November 07 2011 10:25 cold- wrote: stephano is code s material, he has proven it plenty of times by beating mkp, mma, stc and other top koreans and litteraly every foreigner except idra (i havent seen them play yet). if he goes to korea, he will dominate. Dominate....first round of code A??? Please we need to wait and see. I love Stephano, he's unstoppable right now in foreigners scene but when it come down to serious business. I don't think he has a slightest chance against any SlayerS terran or just normal code A players. i dunno about that, i see him beating ryung and possibly ganzi pretty easily... I still will say that a korean terran will be his weakness, but it wont be from just anybody.. Terrans that could hand his ass to him unquestionably are IMHAPPY/MVP/SC/MMA. In mlg he lost to boxer and thestc, but i wont really count those terrans because he did own them at IPL and i dont think he was playing in his right mind at mlg, he always said he does not practice much not because hes lazy but because he gets tired fast and mlg is a stamina tournament especially from open bracket. ( against zerg probably only losira/nestea/DRG stand a chance against him and against protoss no korean toss can beat him i assure you of that)
Beating Ryung and Ganzi pretty easily? I'd say he has a chance but it's definitely a chance below 50%. And no toss can beat him? What about puzzle, sage, and probably MC who did beat him? So when he loses he just doesn't play in his right mind? What the hell is this? When he wins you guys say he's gonna dominate GSL if he goes there and when he loses to boxer and theStC it's just he threw it away? Yeah I get it, your hero can never lose, because when he loses he doesn't play "in his right mind".
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On November 07 2011 11:05 m0ck wrote: Well, he did beat a winner of the most recent GSL. And a former runner-up. As he isn't living in Korea, what more do you want? He can only beat the players he is matched against.. I'd like it if his fans were more realistic, and looked at his results objectively. It isn't like he is crushing every Korean he comes across, or even only losing to MVP/Nestea/etc-level players. I think he's one of the best foreigners right now. (Idra, Huk, and others also compete.)
His recent record seems to indicate that he can compete at about par with decent Code S players. (In his most recent games on TLPD, he 2-0'ed MKP (Code S), 1-2'ed Boxer (barely Code A), 0-2'ed TheSTC (Code A), 4-0'ed Lucky (Code A), and 3-1'ed TheSTC (Code A).
From that, he seems like perhaps a mid-level Code S player.
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On November 07 2011 11:35 Trsjnica wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2011 11:05 m0ck wrote: Well, he did beat a winner of the most recent GSL. And a former runner-up. As he isn't living in Korea, what more do you want? He can only beat the players he is matched against.. I'd like it if his fans were more realistic, and looked at his results objectively. It isn't like he is crushing every Korean he comes across, or even only losing to MVP/Nestea/etc-level players. I think he's one of the best foreigners right now. (Idra, Huk, and others also compete.) His recent record seems to indicate that he can compete at about par with decent Code S players. (In his most recent games on TLPD, he 2-0'ed MKP (Code S), 1-2'ed Boxer (barely Code A), 0-2'ed TheSTC (Code A), 4-0'ed Lucky (Code A), and 3-1'ed TheSTC (Code A). From that, he seems like perhaps a mid-level Code S player.
Also 2-0'ed HuK (Code S) and lost to Alive (code S) 2-0.
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I'd like to see Sage or Oz against stephano instead, I knew Tails would get wrecked
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