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SoKHo
Korea (South)1081 Posts
On November 07 2011 08:55 JohnMatrix wrote: I mean he probably could win i didnt tell he can, even Idra could win vs MVP for sure in a bo3. Just stop talking. Think before you speak. | ||
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cheggelund
Norway131 Posts
On November 07 2011 08:35 godulous wrote: http://www.twitch.tv/playhemtv/b/299357945 They'll also be on our youtube channel shortly  http://youtube.com/playhemtv Crap, missed this match altogether. TY for the replay link! NJ Stephano! | ||
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Zeborg
107 Posts
SC2 is a game where any top player can take out any other top player. Upsets do happen. Even in other sports, when Team A is favored against Team B, true fans of Team B will believe that their team will win. Don't try to silence people who don't have the same opinion as you. | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
I have nothing against him but fanboyism is really, really, really annoying. People trying to "discredit" him are actually trying to bring you fanboys down to ground. I said the same thing before MLG Orlando. I predicted that he would not get to top8 and people said I was stupid. Stephano has got insane talent and is probably the top2 best foreigners atm, but unless he trains 8 hours a day like most Koreans do he would meet a skill cap. I would rate him as mid-high code A level at the moment. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:17 chosenkerrigan wrote: I love how Stephano fanboys begin to imagine him beating MVP in BO5 after he wins a showmatch against tails.. I have nothing against him but fanboyism is really, really, really annoying. Tails is not the best Protoss alive, but he could beat Nestea and Mvp when it most mattered (being 3-4 behind in sets against IM). | ||
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thane
United States407 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:17 chosenkerrigan wrote: I love how Stephano fanboys begin to imagine him beating MVP in BO5 after he wins a showmatch against tails.. I have nothing against him but fanboyism is really, really, really annoying. Of any Zerg player outside Korea Stephano and Idra have amazing mechanics. Different styles but amazing mechanics all the same. Point is if any Zerg outside Korea is beating MVP or any other top Korean these to have the highest chance. | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:22 Djagulingu wrote: Tails is not the best Protoss alive, but he could beat Nestea and Mvp when it most mattered (being 3-4 behind in sets against IM). That was impressive by Tails, but beating MVP in a BO5 when it mattered is a whole different story and the chances are slim to none. | ||
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Djagulingu
Germany3605 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:26 chosenkerrigan wrote: That was impressive by Tails, but beating MVP in a BO5 when it mattered is a whole different story and the chances are slim to none. But if there is a foreigner who could do this, it's either Huk or Stephano. | ||
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Zeroxk
Norway1244 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:28 Djagulingu wrote: But if there is a foreigner who could do this, it's either Huk or Stephano. I think you forgot how utterly crushed Huk was against Mvp I think 2 or 3 GSLs ago | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:28 Djagulingu wrote: But if there is a foreigner who could do this, it's either Huk or Stephano. I'd say Huk has a better chance than Stephano considering Huk's pvt is strong while MVP's TvP is his worst matchup. That said, I still cannot imagine Huk beat MVP in BO5 any day. But you got a point, these two might have the best chances. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:32 chosenkerrigan wrote: I'd say Huk has a better chance than Stephano considering Huk's pvt is strong while MVP's TvP is his worst matchup. That said, I still cannot imagine Huk beat MVP in BO5 any day. But you got a point, these two might have the best chances. Well, I wouldn't throw out any P's chances against MVP, but Huk is recently 0-5 against him... | ||
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CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
On November 07 2011 08:52 m0ck wrote: You realize MVP was very lucky not to lose to the relatively unknown zerg player annyong earlier today? You're starstruck! and stephano lost to BoxeR. Now what? | ||
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Agathon
France1505 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:26 chosenkerrigan wrote: That was impressive by Tails, but beating MVP in a BO5 when it mattered is a whole different story and the chances are slim to none. I dont say you're wrong. I just want to know what makes you think like that? Why? How can you imagine the result of a match between two different players, who never played together, and never met opponent with the same style, and never played with the same preparation and playing condition? Why a "Slim chance"? Why not "No chance", or "50/50", or every thing else? | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States44974 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:17 Zeborg wrote: SC2 is a game where any top player can take out any other top player. Upsets do happen. Even in other sports, when Team A is favored against Team B, true fans of Team B will believe that their team will win. Don't try to silence people who don't have the same opinion as you. Now Stephano is a top player? Jesus. Stephano is a top foreigner, sure. I think a few people forgot that he hasn't exactly played GSL yet. You kinda need to think about all the Koreans. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15723 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:38 Agathon wrote: I dont say you're wrong. I just want to know what makes you think like that? Why? How can you imagine the result of a match between two different players, who never played together, and never met opponent with the same style, and never played with the same preparation and playing condition? Why a "Slim chance"? Why not "No chance", or "50/50", or every thing else? Because everything anyone will ever say in these situations comes from a gut instinct rarely grounded in facts or statistics. | ||
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chosenkerrigan
858 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:38 Agathon wrote: I dont say you're wrong. I just want to know what makes you think like that? Why? How can you imagine the result of a match between two different players, who never played together, and never met opponent with the same style, and never played with the same preparation and playing condition? Why a "Slim chance"? Why not "No chance", or "50/50", or every thing else? I agree that SC2 is still kinda volatile comparing to BW so we cannot really predict the result of a game very well. However, we do have a few players showing consistent great results while competing against the best of the best for months. Players like MVP, Nestea showed significantly better results than their peers for MONTHS. They displayed better results for a longer time, against stronger players. I really don't see how Stephano would have a split chance against the best TvZer in the world considering Stephano lost to Boxer and theStC (yeah I know he beat mkp at eswc). However, I would not say there's NO chance at all because anything can happen. It's a pure philosophical question.. | ||
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rasnj
United States1959 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:38 Agathon wrote: I dont say you're wrong. I just want to know what makes you think like that? Why? How can you imagine the result of a match between two different players, who never played together, and never met opponent with the same style, and never played with the same preparation and playing condition? Why a "Slim chance"? Why not "No chance", or "50/50", or every thing else? Everything you said applies just as well to say CombatEX vs MVP or your average silver league vs MVP for that matter if you think CombatEX has a chance. Could CombatEX win against vs MVP (HINT: No)? We extrapolate from observing their play and accomplishments. | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1358 Posts
On November 07 2011 09:49 rasnj wrote: Everything you said applies just as well to say CombatEX vs MVP or your average silver league vs MVP for that matter if you think CombatEX has a chance. Could CombatEX win against vs MVP (HINT: No)? We extrapolate from observing their play and accomplishments. well Gatored 3-0 Ogstop and 2-1 DRG at iem ny so its always possible. (jk^^) | ||
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
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cold-
Canada209 Posts
if he goes to korea, he will dominate. | ||
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