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Betsfrox
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Venezuela248 Posts
November 08 2011 16:44 GMT
#301
are replays gonna be released?
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
November 08 2011 16:57 GMT
#302
On November 09 2011 01:17 Steel wrote:
It's funny that people try to rate top 10s and list people like Taeja the he loses (badly) to Oz. Is Oz top 10 now? Of course he beat Taeja.

You can't call top 10 players, so just don't. You don't know if stephano is a top 10 player because he hasn't played everybody and his stretch of being really good hasn't lasted long enough. You don't become top 10 for beating a few Koreans. Yet he beat Koreans so he can compete.

All we can say is Stephano is a really good player and could compete in all tournaments. He would also have a reasonable chance at winning these tournaments. Did he? Not yet, so you can't rank him. Even if he did win Code S you could call it skill with a lot of luck.

Enough of this top 10 bullshit. Stephano is really fucking good and could compete with Koreans. You can't even rank the Korean top 10 other than Nestea, MMA and MVP being somewhere in there based on consistency. That's basically the only thing you say without being stupidly biased. So just stop.



On November 09 2011 01:44 Betsfrox wrote:
are replays gonna be released?


Finally two good posts.
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 17:35:29
November 08 2011 17:30 GMT
#303
On November 09 2011 01:17 Steel wrote:
It's funny that people try to rate top 10s and list people like Taeja the he loses (badly) to Oz. Is Oz top 10 now? Of course he beat Taeja.

You can't call top 10 players, so just don't. You don't know if stephano is a top 10 player because he hasn't played everybody and his stretch of being really good hasn't lasted long enough. You don't become top 10 for beating a few Koreans. Yet he beat Koreans so he can compete.

All we can say is Stephano is a really good player and could compete in all tournaments. He would also have a reasonable chance at winning these tournaments. Did he? Not yet, so you can't rank him. Even if he did win Code S you could call it skill with a lot of luck.

Enough of this top 10 bullshit. Stephano is really fucking good and could compete with Koreans. You can't even rank the Korean top 10 other than Nestea, MMA and MVP being somewhere in there based on consistency. That's basically the only thing you say without being stupidly biased. So just stop.


Nobody should rank until more leagues with a format like "MSL", "OSL" and "GSL" come out where people have time to prepare for their opponent.
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-08 17:42:51
November 08 2011 17:42 GMT
#304
GSL doesn't really allow enough preparation time either to be honest (although it's still better than the foreign one-weekend tournaments). Competitions are incredibly volatile and it doesn't help that the game itself isn't really figured out yet.

I'm personally not reading much into anyone's success this early in SC2's lifespan, I rate players just by how good their mechanics and multitasking are, and how fast they're improving, because eventually that's what's going to pay off big time in the long run.
AIOL!
Profile Joined January 2011
France962 Posts
November 08 2011 17:57 GMT
#305
in every tourne thread won by Stephano there's this kind of X pages thread where one guy say "OLOL Stephano > All " and right after 10 antifanboys write pages and pages about how Stephano is hyped and how he hasn't compete in code S etc...
Just wait and see, he will go to korea soon, then we will know, but i have the conviction he's not another "top" foreign player who will fail in first round of code A. I mean he is on a complete other level.
Stephano!!!!!!/Nerchio/Mana/Hasuobs/Grubby/Kas/Tarson/Sarens/Goody/BeastyCury
Superrubim
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom10 Posts
November 08 2011 18:23 GMT
#306
These showmatches are probably the best idea anyone has ever had.
Next Idra VS Stephano.
Please.
yay.
xi Tempest x
Profile Joined July 2011
Scotland340 Posts
November 08 2011 20:43 GMT
#307
On November 09 2011 03:23 Superrubim wrote:
These showmatches are probably the best idea anyone has ever had.
Next Idra VS Stephano.
Please.


I second this, hopefully would be really good and mabye shut a few people that are hating on one of them up, i don't really like idrA as a player, his style bores me, But when he plays his style to it's best, he is amazing... stephano on the other hand, when he is playing poorly, is still good to watch, but you see the flaws..

In a best of 5 i think stephano would probably win
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