[EG MCSL] Season VI - Finals Weekend

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sjschmidt93

United States2518 Posts

October 30 2011 20:38 GMT

#1201

bootysmackarax

Full.tilt

United Kingdom1709 Posts

October 30 2011 20:38 GMT

#1202

On October 31 2011 05:30 Mordiford wrote:
I like Scoots's occasional chime ins, it keeps it casual and fun.

EG didn't really want that win anyway?

(jk, eve reference.)

Badfatpanda

United States9719 Posts

October 30 2011 20:38 GMT

#1203

On October 31 2011 05:30 Vorenius wrote:

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Thanks

But what's the format for the grand final then?

standard double elim, mouz advances to finals...then fnatic plays winner of this match winner of that plays mouz, winner wins =D

Elean

689 Posts

October 30 2011 20:40 GMT

#1204

On October 31 2011 05:28 gh0un wrote:

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On October 31 2011 05:18 HappyChris wrote:

On October 31 2011 05:05 gh0un wrote:

On October 31 2011 04:47 Elean wrote:

On October 31 2011 04:32 gh0un wrote:

On October 31 2011 04:27 Elean wrote:

On October 31 2011 04:22 gh0un wrote:

On October 31 2011 04:19 Elean wrote:

On October 31 2011 04:17 gh0un wrote:

On October 31 2011 04:10 TRAP[yoo] wrote:
he will never change

How would you react if someone opened 11/12 against you and put down two bunkers in such a fashion that you cannot attack the marines that are hiding behind them?
Would that put a smile on your face?
Its extremely annoying and abuses the shit out of melee units.

You cant attack it with melee units, and spines arent able to kill bunkers that are being repaired (remember the game boxer vs idra at the last mlg where idra had 3 spines attacking the bunker? it didnt even budge).
What should zerg build to destroy that bunker? 6 spines? 10?
Building so many spines is game anyway.

Its an annoying rush and takes alot away from the game in my opinion.

All you have to do to defend this is to drone scout.
Idra deserved to loose.

Even the ones that do drone scout will build the hatch before pool and die anyways, even if they scout it afterwards.
It comes very early and you cant really count on scouting it before you put down that hatch, because 15 population is extremely early.

Sorry no, I have seen other zergs defend it with ease. Stop saying you cannot defend it.
As long as you have a good micro, there is no reason not to defend it, not on this map where you are guaranteed to scout in time... if you scout.

You are comparing different scenarios with each other.
Show me one game where a zerg has defended 11/11 (or any similar early bunker rush) on meta close by air if the bunkers are put in exactly that fashion.
Unless the zerg luckily runs into the proxy rax he will hatch first and die.

You wont find a single occasion because the games you are referring to are on other maps where it is entirely possible to NOT scout at all and still defend it with ease.

Stop watching Idra, start watching other zerg streams and you will see it.

Idra simply does not have the right mentality to improve, he will keep loosing to it again and again, while others have found solution against it.

If you can't defend without scouting it, just scout the dam thing. You don't have to be a genius to come up with the idea.

And you know what, if you scout it, you can prevent the bunkers to be place "in exactly that fashion". OMG, I'm sure you've never thought about that.

I have seen stephano die to exactly that rush, i have seen nerchio die to exactly that rush, i have seen ret die to exactly that rush, i have seen nestea die to exactly that rush.
What is your point?

On some maps, i have seen idra smash that rush, stephano smash that rush, nerchio smash that rush, ret smash that rush, nestea smash that rush.

Its still a terrible strategy that has the potential of taking away from the game and make for terrible games and it is happening quite frequently.
The opening makes for terrible games and i dont support it, i suppose you are a supporter of terrible games.

Stephano has never in tournament games died to a 2 proxy rax push never. He is exstremely safe. You got any proff to backup that claim?

He said watch other zergs stream.
He died against bunker rushes on his stream plenty of times.
Back up your claims yourselves before you make any rules of what counts and whatnot.
So funny.

You were talking about a specific bunker placement on a specific map. This map not being in the map pool anymore, it can only be in tournaments or an obvious lie.

Also, Stephano seldom stream, has so few loss in the ladder and is really really good against these rushes, I highly doubt you have ever seen him loose to that exact build. You are so obviously lying. And even if you saw him loose to it once, this means you have been watching him long enough to see him defend it multiple times. So yes, it can be defended.

dooraven

Australia2820 Posts

October 30 2011 20:43 GMT

#1205

soo EG, why axlav instead of Huk?