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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
October 16 2011 02:17 GMT
#9321
"cheese" vs "cheese" on the white stream it seems.

Polt going for a 1/1/1, incontrol going for 1 base colossus (before scouting the 1/1/1)
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 02:18 GMT
#9322
On October 16 2011 11:17 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:15 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:14 NuclearJudas wrote:
Another terrible LR coming up!
Tyler vs KawaiiRice
Xel'Naga Caverns

Tyler spawns up top and KR down low.
Tyler: "motha ship"

Gate+Gas for Tyler, Barracks+Gas for KR

Core finishes for Tyler, Orbital going up for KR. Tyler getting his second gas.

KR getting a Fac, Tyler getting WG research and a second gate. Stargate coming up for Tyler.

Whoops, Tyler actually got the SG before his gate, I think. Tyler starts Phoenix production. Kawaii getting a second CC.

Bunker and tanks out for KR. Tyler places down his Nexus at the seven minute mark.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
railstay
Profile Joined October 2011
United States5 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 02:20:59
October 16 2011 02:18 GMT
#9323
On October 16 2011 10:45 Azarkon wrote:
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On October 16 2011 10:43 Zeroxk wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 dmnum wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:38 dmnum wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:36 DystopiaX wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:35 Ausfailia wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:34 Icky wrote:
Not over yet, and all.. But I have to say, as a casual Starcraft 2 watcher, if Koreans keep winning MLGs I'm just going to stop bothering entirely.


Why, were you not entertained by that game?

Why does it matter where they come from? Was that game not intense and exciting? If a player's nationality is what prevents you from watching esports why even bother?

Some people doesn't enjoy seeing a tourney roster and knowing which players will finish top 6. It's his opinion, are you that intolerant?

There are more than 6 Koreans, and if pool play shows us anything it's that foreigners are more than capable of making it top 6 anyway. SC is about the games, not about where people are from.

You want SC2 to be an e-sport, right? Soccer is all about the games too, yet I don't cheer for barcelona because they are the best team in the world, I cheer for flamengo because they are the team from my country.


Soccer is a team sport, SC2 is more comparable to tennis or golf, Do you perhaps not root for Federer or Tiger Woods?


There's not much point in complaining about people cheering for their own country. The Koreans do the same and no one ever blames them. Like Tasteless was saying, Koreans won't even watch a sport unless Koreans are winning it.


This is simply not true. My father was a Yankees fan ever since he was a teenager in South Korea. He didn't even own a television set. He'd watch the games on horrible reception whenever he had a chance to go to a major city. In an Olympic setting, would South Koreans root for their national team? Of course they would, but the important thing is that they ultimately respect
the game.

Whoever you root for is who you choose to root for. What's ridiculous is to say that you're a StarCraft fan and then in the next breath say you blatantly refuse to watch any games with Koreans in it. So basically you are...


1. Being prejudice. Not racist, but prejudice. The best players in the world are Korean. You are refusing to watch the best players simply because they are Korean.

2. Not respecting the game. Refusing to watch games based on reason #1 means you don't care about seeing good games. All you care about is seeing foreigners play.

3. Ignorant. You are denying yourself the opportunity to watch the best StarCraft 2 players in the world.


I'm a soccer fan. When the United States or South Korean national teams are playing, of course I'll cheer in their favor, but when they inevitably get knocked out I don't stop watching the game. I watch it all the way to the finals. Why? Because I respect the game and those who play it on the highest level. The sport takes precedent over the nationalism.

The last thing StarCraft should become is a xenophobic mouthpiece for nationalistic circlejerks. Respect the players. Respect the game. There are good foreigners and there are good Koreans, but if foreign scene can't respect the game, then it will always be subpar to the Korean scene.

Also, the basketball scene in China is getting much better too. Guess what the best selling NBA jersey in China is? If you guessed Yao Ming you are dead wrong.

The best selling NBA jersey in China is Kobe Bryant. Then it's Kevin Garnett, Tracy McGrady, Paul Pierce, Allen Iverson.... Yao Ming is actually #10.
fortuna audaces iuvat
Swede
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand853 Posts
October 16 2011 02:18 GMT
#9324
On October 16 2011 11:09 Mycl wrote:
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On October 16 2011 11:06 Swede wrote:
Why does it have to be 'IdrA/MKP played poorly' or 'IdrA/MKP played really well'? How about they both played poorly in a few ways, but also played well in other ways?

Also, the game doesn't have to be narrowed down to an individual thing. The result of a game is a sum total of everything that happens. Some moves are worth more, some less.


People like to look at everything negatively sadly. We got a really good best of 3 from 2 of the most popular players around but people have to smear it


Well, it's not necessarily negativity. It's just a lack of understanding of how the game works. It's not so one dimensional as "MKP got 3/3 and therefore won" or "IdrA screwed up the last engagement and therefore lost". Example: There were several engagements throughout the game where IdrA lost units needlessly. If you imagine that those units had never been lost then he would have had the critical mass to overcome MKP's final push which would have at least made the game go on longer, and possibly pushed the result in IdrA's favour.
LorDo
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden485 Posts
October 16 2011 02:18 GMT
#9325
On October 16 2011 11:15 Cel.erity wrote:
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On October 16 2011 11:13 Shika wrote:
Haha SaSe fangirl is the best! <3


I missed it, what happened?


A girl cheering when the casters namedrop some foreigners (Sase, and Idra i think among them).

Like. Batshit crazy screaming.
sharktopus.
Profile Joined April 2011
United States456 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9326
top 4 are terran omg no way how did this happen no way
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9327
On October 16 2011 11:18 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:17 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:15 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:14 NuclearJudas wrote:
Another terrible LR coming up!
Tyler vs KawaiiRice
Xel'Naga Caverns

Tyler spawns up top and KR down low.
Tyler: "motha ship"

Gate+Gas for Tyler, Barracks+Gas for KR

Core finishes for Tyler, Orbital going up for KR. Tyler getting his second gas.

KR getting a Fac, Tyler getting WG research and a second gate. Stargate coming up for Tyler.

Whoops, Tyler actually got the SG before his gate, I think. Tyler starts Phoenix production. Kawaii getting a second CC.

Bunker and tanks out for KR. Tyler places down his Nexus at the seven minute mark.

Tyler getting one SCV with somePhoenix harass.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Jackle
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 02:19:44
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9328
nvm...fadsfsda
You called down the thunder, now reap the whirlwind.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9329
incontrol playing smart v pumas 1-1-1
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9330
On October 16 2011 11:19 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:18 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:17 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:15 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:14 NuclearJudas wrote:
Another terrible LR coming up!
Tyler vs KawaiiRice
Xel'Naga Caverns

Tyler spawns up top and KR down low.
Tyler: "motha ship"

Gate+Gas for Tyler, Barracks+Gas for KR

Core finishes for Tyler, Orbital going up for KR. Tyler getting his second gas.

KR getting a Fac, Tyler getting WG research and a second gate. Stargate coming up for Tyler.

Whoops, Tyler actually got the SG before his gate, I think. Tyler starts Phoenix production. Kawaii getting a second CC.

Bunker and tanks out for KR. Tyler places down his Nexus at the seven minute mark.

Tyler getting one SCV with somePhoenix harass.

Seige mode coming for KR and a Forge for Tyler.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Rhedsa
Profile Joined July 2011
Costa Rica594 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9331
On October 16 2011 11:07 GhostFall wrote:
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On October 16 2011 11:05 zdragon wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:01 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:58 Soulish wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:56 hitpoint wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:53 JoeSchmoe wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:50 TazzDingo wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:42 RogerChillingworth wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:39 Shurayuki wrote:
[quote]

and then the other guy was better and won instead?




Idra should have won it.


But then Marineking outplayed Idra and won it instead.

Today I learned: It's too hard for 90% on TL.net to understand that winning a match does not mean outplaying the opponent. Sheesh... First Huk-Hero, then IdrA-MKP... Unforced errors should not happen but they do happen sometimes. Has nothing to do with being outplayed... srsly guys.


outplayed. simple as that. poor engagements by idra, no upgrades. these are fundamental mistakes.


2-0 mutas 2-1 lings vs 3-3 marines. I count 5 upgrades for idra, 6 for mkp. Yea HUGE difference.

can't just add upgrades like that lol. Does 1/1 ling + 1/1 roach + 1/2 muta beat 3/3 marines?


I agree. 3/3 marines completely rape anything with lower upgrades, and equal upgrades even. My point is that Idra was keeping up with upgrades, he just has to split them between units while mkp didn't. So I think mkp's upgrades were far better, but it wasn't for lack of idra upgrading - it's because marines are absurd.


Is this a joke? T was upgrading mech too. At least +1 on mech, if not +2, so there's your equivalent to the muta 2-0.

The other absurd thing shit players say is that you need Hive units vs marines. Sure broods help, but you can't ignore the reverse - that T tier3 far more useless against any Z composition. There's no magic make 7 BC's and win button.

Besides, the actual units are only part of the equation - positioning and timing is so important to be able to set up the econ.


There may not be a magic make 7 BC's and win button, but there is a make 15 ghosts and win button against zerg. Right now, if the game reaches that super super late, and terran gets around that many ghosts, Zerg can't do anything.


This "magic" ghost button is only working if you keep throwing your T3 Broods and Ultras in this sniping-machines. Making a mass-crackling/bling-switch can really render snips and ghosts useless - and the Terran won't have massive tanklines after you may started with broods in the first place. Taking a step back, can sometimes help, or?
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9332
On October 16 2011 11:19 sharktopus. wrote:
top 4 are terran omg no way how did this happen no way

huk
coLCruncher fighting!
dmnum
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Brazil6910 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9333
On October 16 2011 11:16 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:15 K3Nyy wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:14 eviltomahawk wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:12 LorDo wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:41 MrSexington wrote:
Top 6 Korean again?

4 of 6 already Korean? Will anyone not sneak in the remaining two spots?

*sheds zerg tears*



Huk is not Korean.

Although that point has been debated for countless ages around these parts, and no real conclusion has been made so far.

To me, he is European because he is of Caucasian descent, though you could argue that he is actually African due to ancestral migrations.


When people say Korean they usually mean Korean in terms of actually spending time in Korea. That's why we call Select a foreigner and not a Korean.

Yep. Obviously HuK is a white dude and American-Canadian. What matters for SC though is his training, which is obviously Korean.
To me he's a foreigner training in korea. If you want to be the best you have to go there, no place can provide a similar work environment as SK's. At the same time, select is a korean training in NA.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 02:19 GMT
#9334
On October 16 2011 11:19 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:19 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:18 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:17 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:15 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:14 NuclearJudas wrote:
Another terrible LR coming up!
Tyler vs KawaiiRice
Xel'Naga Caverns

Tyler spawns up top and KR down low.
Tyler: "motha ship"

Gate+Gas for Tyler, Barracks+Gas for KR

Core finishes for Tyler, Orbital going up for KR. Tyler getting his second gas.

KR getting a Fac, Tyler getting WG research and a second gate. Stargate coming up for Tyler.

Whoops, Tyler actually got the SG before his gate, I think. Tyler starts Phoenix production. Kawaii getting a second CC.

Bunker and tanks out for KR. Tyler places down his Nexus at the seven minute mark.

Tyler getting one SCV with somePhoenix harass.

Seige mode coming for KR and a Forge for Tyler.

Tyler getting +1 Armor and KR getting Stim.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
UserErrOr413
Profile Joined May 2011
United States178 Posts
October 16 2011 02:20 GMT
#9335
Polt versus iNcontrol on White stream

On October 16 2011 11:10 cyprin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:07 ChefTony wrote:
alright so what needs to happen for us not to have incontrol in drewbie in pool play?


They have to not show up to the tournament

I felt like drewbie looked pretty good in the games i saw of him, I think his time in Korea has helped him a bit.
And also drewbie was knocked out of pool play last mlg or two, but made it back into pools by playing well in open bracket each time (though I don't think he got through to pools with of those times).
ThePianoDentist
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom698 Posts
October 16 2011 02:20 GMT
#9336
On October 16 2011 11:13 dmnum wrote:
Lol @ the people using playing LoL as an argument to discredit the dude. You are ridiculous, cry like little babies when BW elitists say SC2 is a newb game but do the same with with LoL. You should be ashamed, really.

this x1000. sc2 players trying to make fun of LoL players for playing a 'skilless' game makes me laugh.
Brood War Protoss, SC2 Terran/Protoss
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 02:20 GMT
#9337
On October 16 2011 11:19 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:19 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:19 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:18 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:17 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:16 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:15 NuclearJudas wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:14 NuclearJudas wrote:
Another terrible LR coming up!
Tyler vs KawaiiRice
Xel'Naga Caverns

Tyler spawns up top and KR down low.
Tyler: "motha ship"

Gate+Gas for Tyler, Barracks+Gas for KR

Core finishes for Tyler, Orbital going up for KR. Tyler getting his second gas.

KR getting a Fac, Tyler getting WG research and a second gate. Stargate coming up for Tyler.

Whoops, Tyler actually got the SG before his gate, I think. Tyler starts Phoenix production. Kawaii getting a second CC.

Bunker and tanks out for KR. Tyler places down his Nexus at the seven minute mark.

Tyler getting one SCV with somePhoenix harass.

Seige mode coming for KR and a Forge for Tyler.

Tyler getting +1 Armor and KR getting Stim.

Tyler getting a Robo and another gate. KR getting an Armory.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
October 16 2011 02:20 GMT
#9338
On October 16 2011 11:18 LorDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:15 Cel.erity wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:13 Shika wrote:
Haha SaSe fangirl is the best! <3


I missed it, what happened?


A girl cheering when the casters namedrop some foreigners (Sase, and Idra i think among them).

Like. Batshit crazy screaming.


i think you need to watch the Jangbi Storm vid

or basically...any BW at all

they're pretty good at screaming in korea
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
October 16 2011 02:20 GMT
#9339
On October 16 2011 11:15 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:13 Shika wrote:
Haha SaSe fangirl is the best! <3


I missed it, what happened?


It's just that everytime SaSe's name is mentioned on stage she screams like crazy justin bieber fangirls do. She did it again when I wrote that.
bounca
Profile Joined June 2011
140 Posts
October 16 2011 02:20 GMT
#9340
polt up 1-0
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