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Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
October 16 2011 02:13 GMT
#9281
Haha SaSe fangirl is the best! <3
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9282
On October 16 2011 11:08 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:00 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:57 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:56 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:52 JohnnyBanana wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:50 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:48 Rebs wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Mordiford wrote:
On October 16 2011 10:45 Zooper31 wrote:
[quote]

So you're blaming Idra for killing stray buildings? I'm really confused...


No, he's explaining why MKP's macro looked poor.


It didn't look poor, it was poor, simple as that. MKP's own fault for getting his supply depots constantly picked off.



hahaa yea you know theres a fanboy in the house when the other players problems are self inflicted and the the guy he supports lost because Terran op lolol.


Yes I'm a fanboy of Idra's, doesn't change the fact that MKP played poorly and only won because of that last engage.


Your fanboism is clearly showing. Sure you may think that MKP played poor, but what matters is that Idra played worse. Suicide units 2-3 at a time into a tank line with medivacs and marines all around...

Yeah, MKP completely outplayed Idra that game.


Were you watching another game? completely outplay would be clearly having the upper hand the majority of the game and not sustaining much yourself. You are a step ahead. His win was due to idra's sloppiness towards the end and not maintaining upgrades.

That's just how it is with zerg, things can quickly go down the shitter. It's far less forgiving.


Were YOU watching another game? MKP did have the upper hand ALL GAME long. Did you not see his upgrades? His win was due to holding the upper hand all game and then completely steam rolling Idra at the end. Simple as that.


Dude, his economy was in the toilet and he was dropping constantly in supply. All idra had to do was hold the last push and that was it. He didn't though.


I think you're missing the reasons why MKP's macro looked so bad, you're not looking beyond the numbers:

-Basically, MKP made a quick tech into 3-3 build, sacrificing his production in the start of the game, with the intention of putting it back on on the mid-late game thus ensuring a rollover with massive upgraded marines.
-Idra was apparently caught off guard by the quick upgrades
-In this situation, Idra's response was to stop MKP's production by sniping supply depots, and to delay MKP's pushes by sniping tanks.
-Because of this, MKP was severely supply blocked, and his marine count was held back. This meant MKP could not stop producing marines to make reactors, because he might have been overwhelmed by mutas.
-By doing this, however, Idra's mutalisks were forced into small encounters with MKP's heavily upgraded marines, this means muta numbers never went over the top as Idra likes.

The end result of all of this is an apparent weak macro by MKP, when he was actually strangled into that position, you can tell he was actually macroing by looking at his SCV count, despite losing around 50 SCVs to harass he kept the number high, all while attempting to take a 4th even while harassed. All this also meant that Idra had to keep replenishing mutas, which kept his tech back, probably delaying infestors a bit. By the time MKP pushed idra had no counter to MKP's upgraded marines.

Or maybe I'm reading too much into it lol, but that's how I see it. MKP only had an apparent bad macro, but he was actually executing his build really well, he probably could have added barracks though, but he was being stressed by harass.


Not saying his macro is bad. Idra was just getting the damage in that he needed. Idra was winning that but began to get sloppy at the end and not be supply efficient. There's a point in the game where he just throws a shit ton of lings into the woodchipper without managing to do much.


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TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9283
On October 16 2011 11:12 LorDo wrote:
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On October 16 2011 10:41 MrSexington wrote:
Top 6 Korean again?

4 of 6 already Korean? Will anyone not sneak in the remaining two spots?

*sheds zerg tears*



Huk is not Korean.


In some peoples world he is.
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9284
Kiwi 1-4?
Snitches get stiches
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 02:15:21
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9285
Incontrol / Polt on Beta1
Tyler / KawaiiRice on Beta2

So either Stephano / Drewbie or SLush / Inori will get shown as Red/Blue are just one feed at the moment
@followMVT
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9286
On October 16 2011 11:13 Shurayuki wrote:
wait a second...how long are they going to play today?

it's already 4AM dammit x.x

the whole Championship Bracket?

god help me

Just 1 more series go to bed set your alarm early tomorrow!!!!!!!!!
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
zdragon
Profile Joined January 2003
United States150 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9287
I don't think Z needs to keep up. For instance, no race can keep up with P upgrades. Doesn't matter though.

Idra lost because he was so fucking sloppy near the end. Why would you throw away all your mutas, who knows?
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9288
Another terrible LR coming up!
Tyler vs KawaiiRice
Xel'Naga Caverns

Tyler spawns up top and KR down low.
Tyler: "motha ship"
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9289
On October 16 2011 11:12 LorDo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 10:41 MrSexington wrote:
Top 6 Korean again?

4 of 6 already Korean? Will anyone not sneak in the remaining two spots?

*sheds zerg tears*



Huk is not Korean.

Although that point has been debated for countless ages around these parts, and no real conclusion has been made so far.

To me, he is European because he is of Caucasian descent, though you could argue that he is actually African due to ancestral migrations.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9290
1st gonna be either bomber or mkp.

STC to get third and get a code s spot.

"I'm not agreeing with a lot of Virus's decisions but they are working" Tasteless. Ipl4 Losers Bracket Virus 2-1 Maru
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9291
slush inori is better than stephano drewbie seriously ?
YoloStar <3
MuseMike
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1339 Posts
October 16 2011 02:14 GMT
#9292
I didn't catch Sase vs Puma. I'm glad I didn't because apparently it was two 1/1/1s -_-

/snooze
Shurayuki
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2665 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9293
On October 16 2011 11:13 dmnum wrote:
Lol @ the people using playing LoL as an argument to discredit the dude. You are ridiculous, cry like little babies when BW elitists say SC2 is a newb game but do the same with with LoL. You should be ashamed, really.



eh...what comes around goes around...i guess?

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ELITIST YEAH, i'm elite, that sounds nice
なまいきになんなよ~ Don't be too stakka~ ☆ SKT Harlequin ☆ n.Die_soO Hoppin You ♪ 愛 am BeSt ♪ ワイフ♥小早川りんこ
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9294
OMAGAD, I spent the day enduring the MLG stream (should I say the MLG logo), refreshing every 30 second and changing resolution every minute only to find out on liquipedia that there is a freaking Twitch restream ><
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9295
On October 16 2011 11:14 NuclearJudas wrote:
Another terrible LR coming up!
Tyler vs KawaiiRice
Xel'Naga Caverns

Tyler spawns up top and KR down low.
Tyler: "motha ship"

Gate+Gas for Tyler, Barracks+Gas for KR
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9296
On October 16 2011 11:13 Shika wrote:
Haha SaSe fangirl is the best! <3


I missed it, what happened?
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9297
I never knew the math but I always knew that 3/3 marines totally own mutas, I just never knew how bad until I went into the unit tester.
one 3/3 stim marine can beat a 1-0 mutalisk.
if that wasn't surprising enough, 10 3/3 marines + 1 medivac will beat 10 1/0 mutas with 6 marines remaining lol.
It's just so retardedly inefficient to keep making mutas vs 3/3 upgrades. Idra should have gotten hive sooner.
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9298
Lol I remember someone earlier in this thread said this is the first time no Korean went 5-0, but TheStC did! D: I thought Ret would take him down.
-_-
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9299
Hey guys: Any more games tonight on the main streams? Also, any word on SOTG tonight?
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 16 2011 02:15 GMT
#9300
On October 16 2011 11:12 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 16 2011 11:10 bkrow wrote:
On October 16 2011 11:04 FryktSkyene wrote:
HE IS NADA!

HE IS I AM!? lol

Can't believe this IdrA banter is still going on in this thread :p


MY NAME IS MY NAME.
(though I'm not sure I'd like Nada as Marlo)

===

also want to give some props to Husky on turning in another sterling performance, he's really won me over with these last few MLG's

He's got a great rapport with day[9]. Husky with anyone else can be less stellar. Though I suppose he could develop a similar rapport if given the time to practice.
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