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IEM New York - Day 2 Coverage - Page 93

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Toxi78
Profile Joined May 2010
966 Posts
October 14 2011 20:07 GMT
#1841
well anyways DRG lost to Gatored, it's not like he is God himself either, losing to such a player, lol.
kusu
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden440 Posts
October 14 2011 20:07 GMT
#1842
l0l "Grack Saladino"
Expa bör man annars dör man! A game withouth me, is a game not worth winning!
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
October 14 2011 20:07 GMT
#1843
On October 15 2011 04:57 garbanzo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:57 FryktSkyene wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:56 garbanzo wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:55 FryktSkyene wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:53 garbanzo wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:52 ondik wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:48 Xeris wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:47 mcc wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:44 Xeris wrote:
You NEVER change the result of games already played this is complete trash administrating. How do these people get fucking paid full time to do this shit?

Lol, bashing a lot ? Where is it written in law that you cannot overturn results of games that were played against the rules ? Oh, yes, you do not like it because that means TT1 is likely out. Too bad, but either way they go it will be unfair to someone and there is no objective reason to argue that one way is more unfair than the other.


TT1 actually palyed games and won, that's why its more unfair to him? O_O


THE GAME NEVER MATTERED.

Is this really hard to understand?

Then why did they play it? How about we ask TT1 and Gatored if the game mattered or not?


ROFL.

Did you listen to what carmac said? They weren't supposed to play eachother so that match doesn't count at all. It means nothing to the tourny.

You didn't answer my question of why they played it. I know they weren't supposed to. But they did. Someone told them to play. Someone told them to play because whoever won will get to the semifinals.


Did you even think that they didn't find out until the games were over? Thats my best guess.

Then the tournament should live with the consequences of their mistake. Not the player.

Yea, DRG, Top and all the other players should not live with the consequences of the mistake. As all people said sucks to be TT1, but why should all the other players suffer ?
Schenkee
Profile Joined October 2010
Scotland322 Posts
October 14 2011 20:07 GMT
#1844
rofl at this contest
Daethan
Profile Joined April 2011
United States59 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1845
Just give the crappy prize to TT1 already!
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1846
You can bash IEM for fucking up the match making.

You can hate IEM for fucking over TT1 without any compensation in sight.

But you shouldn't blame IEM for sticking with the rules. In every organization or event that claims legitimacy that's the first principle to go for - act by the rules. Really, there's no better solution when you consider the big picture.
Always smile~
gwixter
Profile Joined January 2011
Slovakia336 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1847
On October 15 2011 05:07 KtheZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:07 scsnow wrote:
ok no one there, move along please


Wait he said 5:00, but its 4:00 over here in NY....

this ... i wonder when they gonna realise :D
"If you can chill, chill" - Liquid`Tyler || <3 Kiira Korpi :D
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1848
What a crappy situation. I think IEM's decision is correct. The integrity of the competition is preserved. Nobody loses anything, except TT1 having won a match for naught. He could be given the prize money for a ro4 placement as a compensation even if he loses the rematch ($450 extra). I don't think that's an unreasonable price to pay for IEM for making such a mistake.

Props to Carmac for having the balls to step in front of the camera himself to admit a mistake and apologize. Classy.
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1849
On October 15 2011 05:05 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:03 Wren wrote:
Just another problem that could have been fixed by letting Liquipedia be the referees! :D :D

Liquipedia got it wrong in the first place, who knows the admin might have looked it up


Actually, Liquipedia had it right with DongRaeGu in first place, and then liquipedia was changed when it was heard from IEM that DongRaeGu took second place. Liquipedia just changes so quickly that some people didn't see that DongRaeGu was actually put it first place at first.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
thebike
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States157 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1850
Yeah, it's 4 PM here in NY. Didn't they just say it was supposed to be at 5 PM? ...
the bike AKA the REGULAR TRAIN
ramon
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany4842 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1851
On October 15 2011 05:07 Schenkee wrote:
rofl at this contest

this seems rigged
bisu
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 20:09:10
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1852
On October 15 2011 05:07 MrBitter wrote:
/facepalm prizes.

I'm just gonna walk up there and collect my new i7


Just say yes, no matter what name they call out.


Edit:
Catherine Matthews, yeah that's me.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1853
My statement for the situation with TT1 and DRG.

A referee has made a terrible mistake. We cannot undo that - an undeserving player is in a situation which should not have happened.

Gatored got wrongly seeded into the tournament bracket as the #1 seed instead of DRG who received the #2 player's seed in the bracket. As a result, the two players were placed in the wrong part of the bracket and TT1 played a player he was not supposed to. Unfortunately the error was discovered during the match and not before. The result cannot stand.

I deeply regret that such a mistake happened at such a time, but we cannot undo it. We canceled the match and fixed the bracket layout. Nothing else could be done.

All I can do right now on my behalf and on behalf of the referee is apologise to the players involved in the match, their teams and the fans that followed the match. This should not have happened and I will do everything for this to never happen again.

I regret this has happened and I apologise.

Michał "Carmac" Blicharz
www.intelextrememasters.com
ssg
Profile Joined July 2011
United States1770 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1854
idra won a prize/
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1855
What's going on? Any more matches today?
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Phenrock
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom132 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1856
On October 15 2011 05:08 Daethan wrote:
Just give the crappy prize to TT1 already!


LMAO! Agreed!
Wren
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States745 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1857
On October 15 2011 05:05 Maenander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 05:03 Wren wrote:
Just another problem that could have been fixed by letting Liquipedia be the referees! :D :D

Liquipedia got it wrong in the first place, who knows the admin might have looked it up

Nonono, we had it correctly until they announced the quarterfinal matchups. Only then did we have to add all the (incorrect) information about tiebreaker order.
We're here! We're queer! We don't want any more bears!
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1858
HAHA did someone make up a load of names on paper and chuck them in the tub to make for awkwardness?

If someone done that they are the best troll.....EVAH
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1859
Just give the keys to someone for god sake.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
October 14 2011 20:08 GMT
#1860
HAHA IEM is funny
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