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Tomekxtk
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland5 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1681
Can I have dedication from TT1 to judges "Timbaland - Apologize"
FaRess
Profile Joined September 2010
Tunisia937 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1682
wahou I left before the game, can someone summarize what is happening please ???
YoloStar <3
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1683
I guess we'll never know what Xeris would have said if Gatored won

)
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
knL
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany400 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1684
zaz - je veux was the song. Big hit in Germany and of course in france.
flodeskum
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1267 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1685
Ultimately I agree with the decision.

However, it is ridiculous that the match was even played. People had mentioned this on TL last night, you'd think someone at ESL would have noticed.
IdrA: " my fans are kinda retarded"
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1686
On October 15 2011 04:50 Xcobidoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:49 DoomsVille wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



This poll is biased as shit.

The results are purely based on what matches people want to watch, not what is fair to the players.

32 people voting makes an accurate poll? No.

We all know what the results will be.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1687
Guys stop hating on IEM, its not their fault. Blame the guy who ranked DRG and Gatored wrong in the Liquidpedia where the turnament organizisers get their resoults, like many turnament organizisers do.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1688
On October 15 2011 04:49 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



This poll is biased as shit.

The results are purely based on what matches people want to watch, not what is fair to the players.

I added context. How is it being biased? But fine, here's a simpler poll:
Poll: Restart or continue?

Restart (90)
 
91%

Continue (9)
 
9%

99 total votes

Your vote: Restart or continue?

(Vote): Restart
(Vote): Continue



#TeamBuLba
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1689
On October 15 2011 04:49 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 NuclearJudas wrote:
Xeris wrote:
Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game

I think it's good this way. It'd be kinda deligitimising the tourney if TT1 advanced due to a match that shouldn't have happened. That said, I understand it sucks hard for him, but maybe you should hold back in some of your comments, as they are quite harsh.


I'm mad that my player and good friend got fucked over O_O what's hard to understand

Never said I didn't understand how bad this must feel. It's a shame this happened, but it did, and IMO, IEM did the right thing here. Sad that TT1 had to suffer for it.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1690
On October 15 2011 04:49 Sneakyz wrote:
How is Xeris running a "shitty tournament" even slightly relevant? Lmao.


Because he called the tournament runners shitty and questioned why they even get paid. It's called hypocrisy.
Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1691
On October 15 2011 04:47 Caveman255 wrote:
Conspiracy theory:

IEM sent TT1 on a "cab ride" just before his game with Gatored. The plan was that TT1 would never return from this "cab ride" but something went wrong. TT1 came back and 3-0'd Gatored which could mean only one thing - time for plan B.
Carmac has prepared a speech that he thought he had hoped he would never have to use. But when the time has come he was as ready as ever and told the world that it was their mistake - that the wrong game was played and that Gatored is still in the tournament.
Now Gatored will go on to play TOP, who knows he might even win, but if he doesn't TOP should watch his back, the ESL knows no limits.

My (safe) bet is that Gatored will win IEM New York, you heard it here first.


Don't start conspiracies.. there are people will believe them no matter what :-/ (coughlikelastiemwithidrandpumacough)
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
Timerly
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany511 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1692
Carmack has balls for handling it like this, people flaming IEM staff should just chill out. I've seen people use the wrong version of a multi million dollar contract for the actual signing and then try to go clean up the resulting mess. This is unfortunate but nowhere near a "big fucking deal".
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1693
On October 15 2011 04:48 najreteip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 Xeris wrote:
Why did they play out the series then? Stop it midway through... stop it at the beginning .... Anything is better than ripping out someone's heart.

Have you considered they only found out after the series was played?


I believe this part is overlooked by most ppl here. Crappy timing indeed, but happens.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
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Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1694
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



I say no, but they gotta give TT1 compensation if he looses. They can't really rob him of a win without giving anything in return, esp. since it was obviously not his mistake.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1695
On October 15 2011 04:50 Sbrubbles wrote:
What's up with this awsome french music?

Anyone know the artist/song?


Sorry for quoting myself, but I really gotta know where that sexy saxophone solo comes from!!!
Bora Pain minha porra!
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1696
On October 15 2011 04:48 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:47 mcc wrote:
On October 15 2011 04:44 Xeris wrote:
You NEVER change the result of games already played this is complete trash administrating. How do these people get fucking paid full time to do this shit?

Lol, bashing a lot ? Where is it written in law that you cannot overturn results of games that were played against the rules ? Oh, yes, you do not like it because that means TT1 is likely out. Too bad, but either way they go it will be unfair to someone and there is no objective reason to argue that one way is more unfair than the other.


TT1 actually palyed games and won, that's why its more unfair to him? O_O


THE GAME NEVER MATTERED.

Is this really hard to understand?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
FryktSkyene
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1327 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1697
Eminem Awww Yeahhh
Snitches get stiches
Daigoro
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany251 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1698
I am no tournament organizer, but I guess If i was in Carmacs position I would not be sure about legal implications when you continue not adhering to tournament rules, not only the 5.7 K difference between 8 and 1 but also subsequent revenues (idk but maybe there are Finals with previous winners or whatever). The players are organized and most have legal representation by their teams I suppose, so I would not want to be the guy not adhering to the rules.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1699
They made the right decision. They will screw over someone regardless, but at least they correct a mistake on the way.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
October 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#1700
On October 15 2011 04:49 Xeris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 NuclearJudas wrote:
Xeris wrote:
Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game

I think it's good this way. It'd be kinda deligitimising the tourney if TT1 advanced due to a match that shouldn't have happened. That said, I understand it sucks hard for him, but maybe you should hold back in some of your comments, as they are quite harsh.


I'm mad that my player and good friend got fucked over O_O what's hard to understand

You shouldnt be whining, rather you should be on phone with him and motivating him for his next match. Whining on forums wont helt you fix anything, if you feel that it's unfair get in touch with the IEM management not bash them on the forums.
You should know better? you're representing on of the worlds most professional organisations and you're acting so unprofessional.
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