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Crosswind
Profile Joined May 2010
United States279 Posts
October 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#1661
Let's be clear.

Given that they had screwed up, the options were:
Screw over DRG and let the match stand. Breaks tournament rules.
Screw over TT1 and discard the match. The tournament is played out according to the brackets.

Given that both options involve screwing somebody over, why not go with the one that ensures that the correct bracket plays out?

This is an obvious decision. I'm shocked people object to it - you can be annoyed at the ref, but not at the way it was handled.

-Cross
jiabung
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States720 Posts
October 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#1662
Really unfair to TT1, but would also be unfair to have DRG play against TOP when they were both rank 1 seeds in their group.
GenoZStriker
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 19:50:31
October 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#1663
ESL has its own rules confused. TT1 and DRG both finished second in their group. How do they make 2 second seeds play each other? They would then make two 1st seed play each other then? Which completely beats the points of even aiming for first in your group. Everything is fine like it is. They don't need to change anything.
eSports Prodigy & Illuminati member.
Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
October 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#1664
On October 15 2011 04:48 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
Xeris wrote:
Dude that's so fucked up... how can they cancel the result of a game that was played?
Doesnt matter. The game was already played... IEM should apologize to DRG for fucking up, not cancel a legitimate game

I think it's good this way. It'd be kinda deligitimising the tourney if TT1 advanced due to a match that shouldn't have happened. That said, I understand it sucks hard for him, but maybe you should hold back in some of your comments, as they are quite harsh.


I'm mad that my player and good friend got fucked over O_O what's hard to understand
twitter.com/xerislight -- follow me~~
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#1665
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



This poll is biased as shit.

The results are purely based on what matches people want to watch, not what is fair to the players.
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1666
On October 15 2011 04:49 Kieofire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 Brainiac wrote:
Oh God, I'm laughing at Xeris post so bad I'm gonna die. LMAO, epic fail post


Why because he is mad that the officials screwed over one of his players?


Because he is criticising ESL for one bad decision while he made 1000 worse with NASL season 1
Si vis pacem para bellum
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1667
I dont understand how they found out only now ... I maybe browsed TL yesterday for 1h together and found some posts saying why isn't DRG 1st in his group .. I even remember a link to the ESL page with the rankings
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
suspiciousbear
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada112 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 19:50:45
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1668
On October 15 2011 04:44 Xeris wrote:
You NEVER change the result of games already played this is complete trash administrating. How do these people get fucking paid full time to do this shit?


A referee messed up, chill out. I know your player got screwed over, but so did the brackets, they have a tournament system and they have to stick to it. It's one person's error, the company trusted him, but don't blame the whole administration for one person's fuck up. (I hope TT1 wins against DRG anyway, or at least gets semi-level prize money for the mishap that just occurred.)
LoliKuma
Profile Joined June 2010
United States237 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 19:51:48
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1669
On October 15 2011 04:48 Brainiac wrote:
Oh God, I'm laughing at Xeris post so bad I'm gonna die. LMAO, epic fail post

We need a stronger word for ironic

As for something constructive, it was a really good decision to actually correct what they did wrong and start from scratch, it shows that they acknowledge their mistake and are willing to correct it. But it does suck a lot for TT1 was cheering for him too!
The End DOES Justifiy the Means
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1670
On October 15 2011 04:42 Tachion wrote:
Better to screw up 1 match and replay it than compromise the results of the entire tournament by fucking up all the brackets.
Well played carmac.


I agree. Going through with this game without nullifying it's results would discredit the whole rest of the tournament. The winner in the end would end up being "the one who won due to the ref's fuckup" and those who lost "those who lost because they got run over by the ref's failure". Better get the mistake straight and sacrifice the one series for the sake of the whole tournament.
Always smile~
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1671
On October 15 2011 04:49 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



This poll is biased as shit.

The results are purely based on what matches people want to watch, not what is fair to the players.

32 people voting makes an accurate poll? No.
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1672
IEM has to make an address to the United Nations to plead the Republic of South korea for forgiveness of their horrendous mistreatment of a Korean citizen. The reputation of the whole Western civilization is on the line.
DrakanSilva
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Chile932 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 19:52:34
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1673

On October 15 2011 04:39 Xeris wrote:
WHY DO YOU CANCEL A GAME THAT WAS ALREADY PLAYED WTF


WHY DO YOU MESS UP WITH DRG WHO WAS FIRST ON HIS GROUP AND THE ODDS HELPED HIM TO REACH THE FINALS PLAYING TT1 INSTEAD OF TOP WTF

Oh wait, that actually happened and they fixed it.
I appreciate the decision to cancel the game.

In the beginning there was nothing... and then exploded
Fyzar
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands8010 Posts
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1674
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



This shows that the majority on TL has a brain .

I applaud the ESL Personell for being ballsy enough to admit the mistake.
It appears I have been chosen.
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
October 14 2011 19:50 GMT
#1675
What's up with this awsome french music?

Anyone know the artist/song?
Bora Pain minha porra!
Murdock
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland490 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1676
I have an idea how to deal with it in a fair way:

DRG plays Gatored and unless he wins 3-0 TT1 advances. If he wins 3-0 we count overall time of all games. The one who killed him faster advances. :D:D
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1677
Well, I'm glad they aren't going to make TT1 play anymore today.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
DoomsVille
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada4885 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1678
On October 15 2011 04:49 GenoZStriker wrote:
ESL has its own rules confused. TT1 and DRG both finished second in their group. How do they make 2 second seeds play each other? They would then make two 1st seed play each other then? Which completely beats the points of even aiming for first in your group. Everything is fine like it is. They don't need to change anything.

They got the tiebreaker rules wrong. DRG was supposed to finish 1st.
Tewks44
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2032 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1679
On October 15 2011 04:49 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



This poll is biased as shit.

The results are purely based on what matches people want to watch, not what is fair to the players.


You're assessment of this poll is based on pure speculation as to the individual thought process of the many, many people that responded. You can't call a poll biased because you think you know how other people are thinking.
"that is our ethos; free content, starcraft content, websites that work occasionally" -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
October 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#1680
On October 15 2011 04:49 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2011 04:48 garlicface wrote:
God damn, we need a poll.
Poll: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent. (189)
 
84%

Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out. (36)
 
16%

225 total votes

Your vote: Should IEM continue with the results of the TT1 vs Gatored match?

(Vote): Yes. TT1 advances, Gatored is out.
(Vote): No. TT1 regames vs DRG, Gatored regames vs his opponent.



This poll is biased as shit.

The results are purely based on what matches people want to watch, not what is fair to the players.

Or maybe it's just what people think. At least I voted for what I think is right according to the tournament rules.
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