EPTOn October 14 2011 18:38 jmbthirteen wrote:
No guys, cheese is when you attack your opponent who is a Zerg.
No guys, cheese is when you attack your opponent who is a Zerg.
before the 20 minute mark.
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Pajegetc
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hysterial
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Hassybaby
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Well, now MVP keeps his unbeaten streak going | ||
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DisaFear
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He had more vikings than GanZis entire army | ||
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seriously miss those norush20plz days | ||
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Percutio
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On October 14 2011 18:34 Emporio wrote: If all the QQ threads are anything to go by, no one can define: cheese, timing attack player, all-in, BO loss, etc. Personally: Cheese: Relies on the opponent not scouting it in time in order to succeed. I would consider 2 port banshee vs Zerg a cheese. Timing attack: Utilizes a timing where you have an advantage or at least a window to do damage based off a point where your units are very strong or your opponent is very weak. Should do a lot of damage, but you also shouldn't lose if it doesn't cripple them or kill them. I would consider 6 gate vs 2 base muta a timing for Protoss. All in: If it doesn't cripple or kill your opponent you should lose. It doesn't necessarily have to go unscouted to work. Many 111 variations vs toss are true in this way and I would consider many of the two base blink stalker pushes vs zerg to also be all in. BO loss: Your build puts you at a disadvantage that puts you at a big disadvantage. Mirror matchups tend to be good examples of this. As a Protoss player I would say 4gate is a build order loss against 3gate robo now. Additionally I have a theory that a lot of all ins become cheese as people learn the most efficient way to stop them (Or at least ways with high chances for success). | ||
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Itsmedudeman
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On October 14 2011 18:40 Caesarion wrote: Sorry about that, my post was more of a response to the post you quoted. I do agree with you. I think it is necessary to mix in cheeses into your play, so they can't cut corners, take bo advantages etc. You can see the results in the 2nd game. MVP opens 1 rax expand while ganzi opens CC first because he won the cheese game. No way in hell is MVP gonna risk 2 games in a row when he's down 0-1 with a cheese/all in opening while ganzi can. | ||
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iamthedave
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On October 14 2011 18:43 whirlpool wrote: HOly shit MVP master terran macro Not really. He just built more vikings than Ganzi. Their supplies were roughly equal up until that attack. | ||
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Emporio
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Not that we really saw that this game, but still. | ||
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jmbthirteen
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On October 14 2011 18:44 Asha` wrote: Pretty convincing win for MVP that time, never looked remotely in trouble and was always a step ahead. crazy thing is that his banshees did nothing before the battle, yet he stayed ahead the whole time. | ||
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