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Pajegetc
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3158 Posts
October 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#501
On October 14 2011 18:38 jmbthirteen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 18:37 Hassybaby wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:36 tuestresfat wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:35 Medrea wrote:
If you go by the ladder.

Cheese is any strategy you lose to! ☜(゚ヮ゚☜)

or any build a terran executes ^^


Or just anything your opponent does, win or lose

No guys, cheese is when you attack your opponent who is a Zerg.


before the 20 minute mark.
Lose Early game - Cheese. Lose Mid Game - All Ined. Lose Late Game - OMG IMBALANCE. My Guide to Zerg LR.
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
October 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#502
Jesus MVP your macro is too gosu.
Hassybaby
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom10823 Posts
October 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#503
On October 14 2011 18:34 Hassybaby wrote:
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On October 14 2011 18:34 Hassybaby wrote:
Continuing the stats, Ganzi is unbeaten on Antiga Shipyard in the GSL as well

But its only 2 games


Also, MVP is unbeaten too


Well, now MVP keeps his unbeaten streak going
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DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
October 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#504
MVP made that look very easy
He had more vikings than GanZis entire army
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DizzySheep
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia1144 Posts
October 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#505
Those 2 banshees...are heroes
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
October 14 2011 09:43 GMT
#506
Ok now that I've seen that, I don't need to watch the rest of the series haha, so long as MVP doesn't cheese again =P
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tuestresfat
Profile Joined December 2010
2555 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#507
On October 14 2011 18:43 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2011 18:38 jmbthirteen wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:37 Hassybaby wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:36 tuestresfat wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:35 Medrea wrote:
If you go by the ladder.

Cheese is any strategy you lose to! ☜(゚ヮ゚☜)

or any build a terran executes ^^


Or just anything your opponent does, win or lose

No guys, cheese is when you attack your opponent who is a Zerg.


before the 20 minute mark.

seriously miss those norush20plz days
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#508
Ganzi you played BW and you do that? lol
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#509
On October 14 2011 18:34 Emporio wrote:
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On October 14 2011 18:34 jjhchsc2 wrote:
is that the meaning of cheese? o.O

If all the QQ threads are anything to go by, no one can define: cheese, timing attack player, all-in, BO loss, etc.

Personally:

Cheese: Relies on the opponent not scouting it in time in order to succeed. I would consider 2 port banshee vs Zerg a cheese.

Timing attack: Utilizes a timing where you have an advantage or at least a window to do damage based off a point where your units are very strong or your opponent is very weak. Should do a lot of damage, but you also shouldn't lose if it doesn't cripple them or kill them. I would consider 6 gate vs 2 base muta a timing for Protoss.

All in: If it doesn't cripple or kill your opponent you should lose. It doesn't necessarily have to go unscouted to work. Many 111 variations vs toss are true in this way and I would consider many of the two base blink stalker pushes vs zerg to also be all in.

BO loss: Your build puts you at a disadvantage that puts you at a big disadvantage. Mirror matchups tend to be good examples of this. As a Protoss player I would say 4gate is a build order loss against 3gate robo now.

Additionally I have a theory that a lot of all ins become cheese as people learn the most efficient way to stop them (Or at least ways with high chances for success).

What does it matter how I loose it?
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-14 09:44:48
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#510
Pretty convincing win for MVP that time, never looked remotely in trouble and was always a step ahead virtually the whole game.
Espelz
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany833 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#511
yeah.. that was more the MVP I was expecting
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Ormolu
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia35 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#512
oh come on, i get up for 2 mins to get my pizza and the game is over?
Habitat-
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada10 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#513
My god moletrap needs to be fired, worst caster sc2 has to offer.

User was warned for this post
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
October 14 2011 09:44 GMT
#514
On October 14 2011 18:40 Caesarion wrote:
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On October 14 2011 18:39 dmnum wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:37 Caesarion wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:36 dmnum wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:34 ozdod wrote:
On October 14 2011 18:32 Itsmedudeman wrote:
MVP cheeses at least once in bo5

all these "he should've just played standard" is all in hindsight and means shit


haven't seen MVP cheesing this hard in TvT.

for TvP or TvZ sure

Yeh but MVP can't go macro games all day vs ganzi, because if he does he WILL get cheesed. That's probably why he cheesed in the first game.


I think MVP did the same exact build (3 rax allin with calldown supply) vs HuK in the AOL.

Yeh but my point was: MVP knows ganzi is very cheesy in TvT, so he can't risk going early expand every game. By opening the series with a cheese he forces ganzi to think twice before cheesing him.


Sorry about that, my post was more of a response to the post you quoted.

I do agree with you. I think it is necessary to mix in cheeses into your play, so they can't cut corners, take bo advantages etc.

You can see the results in the 2nd game. MVP opens 1 rax expand while ganzi opens CC first because he won the cheese game. No way in hell is MVP gonna risk 2 games in a row when he's down 0-1 with a cheese/all in opening while ganzi can.
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 14 2011 09:45 GMT
#515
Damn... that was disgusting. Looked easy for Mvp even with a slight econ disadvantage at the start.
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iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
October 14 2011 09:45 GMT
#516
On October 14 2011 18:43 whirlpool wrote:
HOly shit MVP master terran macro


Not really. He just built more vikings than Ganzi. Their supplies were roughly equal up until that attack.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
October 14 2011 09:45 GMT
#517
Strong tank line with viking superiority and a single banshee picking off opponent's tanks feels like the future of mech standoffs to me.

Not that we really saw that this game, but still.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 14 2011 09:45 GMT
#518
On October 14 2011 18:44 Asha` wrote:
Pretty convincing win for MVP that time, never looked remotely in trouble and was always a step ahead.

crazy thing is that his banshees did nothing before the battle, yet he stayed ahead the whole time.
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IM_Megan
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands744 Posts
October 14 2011 09:45 GMT
#519
hows the LR today?
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jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 14 2011 09:46 GMT
#520
Didn't MVP use banshee's with his mech vs Bomber too?
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