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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:34 ozdod wrote: haven't seen MVP cheesing this hard in TvT. for TvP or TvZ sure Yeh but MVP can't go macro games all day vs ganzi, because if he does he WILL get cheesed. That's probably why he cheesed in the first game. | ||
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tuestresfat
2555 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:35 Medrea wrote: If you go by the ladder. Cheese is any strategy you lose to! ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜) or any build a terran executes ^^ | ||
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:36 dmnum wrote: Yeh but MVP can't go macro games all day vs ganzi, because if he does he WILL get cheesed. That's probably why he cheesed in the first game. I think MVP did the same exact build (3 rax allin with calldown supply) vs HuK in the AOL. | ||
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Hassybaby
United Kingdom10823 Posts
Or just anything your opponent does, win or lose | ||
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Tosho
Australia498 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:37 Hassybaby wrote: Or just anything your opponent does, win or lose No guys, cheese is when you attack your opponent who is a Zerg. | ||
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IM_Megan
Netherlands744 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xZLd9.jpg) On October 14 2011 18:35 IM_Megan wrote: 4:00: MVP goes for a braack first on 1:55. GanZi goes for a 15/18 CC. CC has been made on 2:28 near his main CC. MVP does not take gas after his barrack so looks like a barrack CC build for MVP. 3:12 MVP makes his CC at the main. GanZi takes gas after, MVP takes double gas. GanZi walled off. 8:00: Ganzi trys to scout MVP but gets killed of by a marine. MVP scouts the front of Ganzi but ganzi is walled of so he did only see a barrack two supply. Both players started a factory at the same time finished at 5:34. Ganzi places his CC at the natural and builds a bunker. MVP scouts the bunker and also moves his CC to the natural. Both players going for a starport and helion. Ganzi research blue flame and MVP has not started researching it. MVP goes for a banshee play, puts his starport on the techlab that was made by the factory and start researching cloack and is making a banshee. Ganzi makes two more factories. Ganzi places his starport on a reactor and is making two vikings. | ||
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DisaFear
Australia4074 Posts
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dmnum
Brazil6910 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:37 Caesarion wrote: I think MVP did the same exact build (3 rax allin with calldown supply) vs HuK in the AOL. Yeh but my point was: MVP knows ganzi is very cheesy in TvT, so he can't risk going early expand every game because ganzi can abuse him if he's too predictable. By opening the series with a cheese he forces ganzi to think twice before cheesing him. | ||
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PeggyHill
1494 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:38 jmbthirteen wrote: No guys, cheese is when you attack your opponent who is a Zerg. Before he has 80 drones and +2 on his mutas :D | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:38 jmbthirteen wrote: No guys, cheese is when you attack your opponent who is a Zerg. That's not cheese. That's all in bro | ||
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Maghetti
United States2429 Posts
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jmbthirteen
United States10734 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:39 Shellshock1122 wrote: That's not cheese. That's all in bro wait, all in is if your on three bases or less, if you are on four or more, its cheese | ||
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IM_Megan
Netherlands744 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:38 IM_Megan wrote: 8:00: Ganzi trys to scout MVP but gets killed of by a marine. MVP scouts the front of Ganzi but ganzi is walled of so he did only see a barrack two supply. Both players started a factory at the same time finished at 5:34. Ganzi places his CC at the natural and builds a bunker. MVP scouts the bunker and also moves his CC to the natural. Both players going for a starport and helion. Ganzi research blue flame and MVP has not started researching it. MVP goes for a banshee play, puts his starport on the techlab that was made by the factory and start researching cloack and is making a banshee. Ganzi makes two more factories. Ganzi places his starport on a reactor and is making two vikings. 12:00: The banshee goes to the main, shooting down a few marines, vikings come out to defense but the banshee runs off in cloack. MVP is making tanks/marines/vikings. Ganzi is making tanks/helions. ganzi has 4 vikings out on the map. mvp makes his 3rd CC at his natural at 10:00. ganzi has not researched siege mode. Banshee going to the natural of ganzi but two vikings counter it off and the banshee cloacks and pulls back. ganzi 4 factorys, two with techlab two with reactor. mass making helions/tanks. ganzi start siege mode research at 11:32. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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Caesarion
Australia8332 Posts
On October 14 2011 18:39 dmnum wrote: Yeh but my point was: MVP knows ganzi is very cheesy in TvT, so he can't risk going early expand every game. By opening the series with a cheese he forces ganzi to think twice before cheesing him. Sorry about that, my post was more of a response to the post you quoted. I do agree with you. I think it is necessary to mix in cheeses into your play, so they can't cut corners, take bo advantages etc. | ||
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PeggyHill
1494 Posts
Surely vikings would just kill the banshee. | ||
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zyzq
United States3123 Posts
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