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Standard LR thread rules apply. No caster bashing, no insulting the interviewers, no player bashing, no balance whining. Bans will be doled out to violators so don't shit up this thread with immature garbage.
Stringy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States127 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9701
so so sick by kiwikaki~!
war4 > sc2
phyren
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States1067 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9702
On October 09 2011 07:00 Gigel wrote:
How people see it:
Archon toilet- totaly legit strategy
1-1-1 - cheesy noob strategy


do you really not see the differences between these 2?
rajssten
Profile Joined July 2010
Ethiopia34 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9703
satta massagana ;]
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9704
On October 09 2011 06:59 KimJongChill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:58 Pajegetc wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:56 Elean wrote:
Stephano could easily have forced a draw...

On the bright sight, this will probably help blizzard realize that the archo toilet has not been fixed


Rofl, zerg already crying imbalance, got to love it -.-'


I don't think the archon toilet even did that much damage...imo it was effective because the army got split in half for a few seconds and broodlord infestor is all about positioning.


This. Also Kiwi didn't have tht many archons in the one with the broodlords, but the vortex allowed his stalkers to get in range with the broodlords, which is usually hard to do with infestors.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Gatored
Profile Joined September 2010
United States679 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9705
On October 09 2011 06:58 Grantler wrote:
And now we go to metal, can zergs win on this map? Nope.


Have you been living under a rock for the last year? lol

Metal has been known to be the best zerg map since forever (save close positions but they have been removed a long time ago). I think every zerg chooses Metal when he loses. Terrible map for zerg, right? That is why they choose it every time.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9706
I'm sorry Kiwikaki that was an amazing game but I still have to root for Stephano here. I want a foreigner to make a deep run and considering the brackets Stephano has a better chance.
Hemula
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Russian Federation1849 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9707
My stamina is over after just watching that, I wonder how players are feeling at the mo
MenSol[ZerO]
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1134 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9708
On October 09 2011 07:00 DoomsVille wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:59 Newtype2k6 wrote:
The chance of Vortex being removed in the next patch like Khaydarin Amulet : 100%

Won't be removed.

But I think they will tweak it a bit.


I thnk its one of the only tools protoss has to deal with that huge broodlord ball because offensive blinks die so fast
Prime/MarineKing!!! www.twitter.com/DayTripperSC
rod-
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway379 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9709
no need for redbull when you get games like that
thank you kiwikaki, and thank you stephano
IMmvp~~
munchmunch
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada789 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-08 22:02:07
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9710
On October 09 2011 06:59 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:56 iNert(EU) wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:55 TedJustice wrote:
Can somebody calmly and rationally explain to me what I just missed? I just tuned in.


The best use of a mothership i've ever seen :D

Also the archon toilet still works pretty good


Kiwi puts down first vortex, Steph dodges the it with his broodlords, but his main army is stuck in. Kiwi puts down a second vortex, it catches all the broodlords, he micros his 2 archones into the second vortex. Both vortexes expire, and the broodlords take massive splash damage. The collosi cleans up the rest of the army.

I wonder if he planned to vortex the BLs with a second delayed one. I don't think he'd have killed Stephano if the whole army popped at once from 1 vortex, but because the roaches came out a bit earlier he could thin the number with his collossi.

Wether it was planned or not, it was great play based on the position of the army.
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9711
Stephano could have NP the mothership then vortexed away the energy
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
Jedclark
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United Kingdom903 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9712
To stop the Archon Toilet - right click in the opposite direction of the vortex. Doing this requires a lot of APM, and is a high-level move. /sarcasm :D
"They make it so scrubnubs can PM me. They make it so I can't ignore scrubnubs!" - "I'm gonna show you how great I am." MKP fan since GSL Open Season 2 #hipsternerd
Hierarch
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2197 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9713
On October 09 2011 07:01 Whiteman103 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:58 BrahCJ wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:54 Neeh wrote:
He had like what, 3 archons taking out 12 bloords?



And 10+ 3/3 Stalkers, RIGHT underneath, with 9 colosi inta-killing the broodlings...


umm your right but it was not 9 colosi was like 5


He had a +2 mothership shooting the blords also, and mothership does pretty good damage
MC|NonY|HerO|NaDa|MVP|DRG|Ret|Sen|Dimaga|Leenock
Jampackedeon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2053 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9714
On October 09 2011 06:59 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:57 Emnjay808 wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:56 iNert(EU) wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:55 TedJustice wrote:
Can somebody calmly and rationally explain to me what I just missed? I just tuned in.


The best use of a mothership i've ever seen :D

Also the archon toilet still works pretty good


Kiwi puts down first vortex, Steph dodges the it with his broodlords, but his main army is stuck in. Kiwi puts down a second vortex, it catches all the broodlords, he micros his 2 archones into the second vortex. Both vortexes expire, and the broodlords take massive splash damage. The collosi cleans up the rest of the army.

I wonder if he planned to vortex the BLs with a second delayed one. I don't think he'd have killed Stephano if the whole army popped at once from 1 vortex, but because the roaches came out a bit earlier he could thin the number with his collossi.


That was absolutely his plan, his army did not beat stephanos straight up.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
October 08 2011 22:01 GMT
#9715
On October 09 2011 07:01 whiteLotus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2011 06:59 Valkola wrote:
On October 09 2011 06:56 c0ldfusion wrote:
Stop saying that it was a good game.. it was an epic game but it wasn't a good game

Zerg has no (read zero) answer to archon toilet... there is nothing that can be done against it

archon toilet is total bullshit

User was warned for this post


Spread your units?


Spreading broodlords lol... Im protoss player but even i loled at that


Spreading broodlors is like spreading voidrays. They all tend to clump.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
happyness
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2400 Posts
October 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#9716
Stop saying that it was a good game.. it was an epic game but it wasn't a good game

Zerg has no (read zero) answer to archon toilet... there is nothing that can be done against it

archon toilet is total bullshit


It was still a ton of fun though, you have to admit
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#9717
On October 09 2011 07:00 1Eris1 wrote:
Ugh. I feel like metal is going to ruin this epic series


Stephano picked the map?
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
darklight54321
Profile Joined July 2011
United States361 Posts
October 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#9718
On October 09 2011 07:00 Gigel wrote:
How people see it:
Archon toilet- totaly legit strategy
1-1-1 - cheesy noob strategy

I"ve stayed out of every cheese/noobstrategy argument this topic.

this post takes the cake on idiocy though. A strategy that is an effective all in......or a strategy ending almost hour long (bliz time) using an 8 supply unit on top of collosi/archons/stalkers.


Yes, best two things to compare either.
Snorkle
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States1648 Posts
October 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#9719
Ok first of all, 2 archons = archon toilet? Kiwi was a mad scientist genius in that he didn't spam both vortex, he waited so that he could engage half the army at a time. It actually probably would have been better for stephano if his entire army went into one vortex.
Joseph123
Profile Joined October 2010
Bulgaria1144 Posts
October 08 2011 22:02 GMT
#9720
I don't like the opener from Kiwikaki on this map. Think it just dies to some roach play.
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