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MrCon
France29748 Posts
On October 06 2011 21:33 Psyclon wrote: I sincerely hope that Stephano will not try to win his group using pure speedlings as he's been doing on ladder recently  You kiddin' ? :D I want to see him destroy everyone with speedlings ! :D | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
What about the vods though?! | ||
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Soleron
United Kingdom1324 Posts
So I can't have the fancy overlay? | ||
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shockaslim
United States1105 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler + Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up. Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though} Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time. Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win} Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win} Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore. Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win. MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently. Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win} Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely. MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side. Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. | ||
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Joseph123
Bulgaria1144 Posts
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Grettin
42381 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:07 radiantshadow92 wrote: I CANNOT WAIT! What about the vods though?! There will be VoDs. No idea when, what quality, and where. | ||
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JimPanzer
Germany339 Posts
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ondik
Czech Republic2908 Posts
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote: Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? . Ret over MC? Even Whitera raped ret...It really is unbelievable how much you underrate MCWoo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler + Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up. Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though} Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time. Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win} Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win} Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore. Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win. MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently. Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win} Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely. MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side. Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45282 Posts
Any predictions? 200? 500? | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote: Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Also, there's a reason why Whitera can beat Ret but not MC. Whitera uses warp prisms to harass and Ret loves just making drones. When Whitera harasses, it forces Ret to make units. However, when MC plays against Zerg, all he does is some small Stargate play or an all-in, both of which Ret just crushes because it's sort of outdated and Ret can drone up like a madman. | ||
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Aegeis
United States1619 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I wonder how many pages this thread will get to. Any predictions? 200? 500? 400 is what I'm aiming for, unfortunately I have school/work today. | ||
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ALPINA
3791 Posts
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Karimarabu
Romania9 Posts
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Olinim
4044 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote: We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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SolidMustard
France1515 Posts
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote: Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? | ||
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
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jinixxx123
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