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Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 13:31:36
October 06 2011 13:30 GMT
#161
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.
stichtom
Profile Joined March 2011
Italy695 Posts
October 06 2011 13:32 GMT
#162
Question: I'm still planning on subscribing to IGN Prime (if i get my administration in order in time), because i want to see the panels... but it's unlikely i can watch it live, because i'm a Euro, have a job and have to sleep as well. Will there be VODs available for the Prime content? Will i have lifelong acces to VODs that are released during the time that i'm subscribed to IGN Prime or only have acces during that period?

Would be cool, but less important to me: Will there be an easy way to synchronize first person view VODs with the casted VOD of a game?

Link Stream: http://esports.ign.com/ipl/tv/
Favourite player: IM.MVP ~ Favorite league: IPL
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 06 2011 13:32 GMT
#163
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.


Yeah right, Code S players are just bad, as everyone knows
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
October 06 2011 13:33 GMT
#164
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.
lalala
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 06 2011 13:33 GMT
#165
On October 06 2011 22:32 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.


Yeah right, Code S players are just bad, as everyone knows

Stop making strawmans please. That is in no way shape or form anything like what I said.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 06 2011 13:35 GMT
#166
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
October 06 2011 13:35 GMT
#167
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

not reading the whole argument, but MC seems to be slumping since he doesn't seem as good as he was.
turnip
Profile Joined May 2010
United States193 Posts
October 06 2011 13:36 GMT
#168
I am unbelievably excite. Show us your best, stephano!
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 06 2011 13:37 GMT
#169
On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...


Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
October 06 2011 13:38 GMT
#170
If you do good in pool play you avoid the awesome players from open. So, no need to worry about puma, demuslim, or so on if you seed well.
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 06 2011 13:38 GMT
#171
On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...


Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...

I like how you fail to mention how the group had MVP( the best player in the world) and Polt and Noblesse who have very good vP.
jinixxx123
Profile Joined June 2010
543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-06 13:40:30
October 06 2011 13:39 GMT
#172
On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...


Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...



and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans.......
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 06 2011 13:43 GMT
#173
On October 06 2011 22:39 jinixxx123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:
Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome.

My bets for Thursday:

+ Show Spoiler +
Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.

Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}

Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.

Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}

Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}

Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.

Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.

MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.

Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}

Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.

MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.

Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily.
Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...


Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...



and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans.......


I know that, he also lost to only zerg in up&down but I just wanted to highlight the fact that his PvT is also getting weaker than it was, and that Ryung seems like the clear the favourite imo...
Demonaz
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1219 Posts
October 06 2011 13:43 GMT
#174
Stupid question:

How exactly do I watch the stream? Is it on twitch.tv or what?
Aegeis
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1619 Posts
October 06 2011 13:44 GMT
#175
Can anybody at the venue tell us how its like inside?
"Skills to pay the bills" - Artosis, https://twitter.com/AegeisSC2 ,http://www.tumblr.com/blog/socal-esports
Olinim
Profile Joined March 2011
4044 Posts
October 06 2011 13:45 GMT
#176
On October 06 2011 22:43 SolidMustard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2011 22:39 jinixxx123 wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:
[quote]Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?

We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...


Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...



and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans.......


I know that, he also lost to only zerg in up&down but I just wanted to highlight the fact that his PvT is also getting weaker than it was, and that Ryung seems like the clear the favourite imo...

He is 4-0 all time vs him, beat him RECENTLY in the teamleague, also beating Taeja who is a better TvPer, and has a far better winrate. Clear favorite?...lol.
Arkhaz
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany89 Posts
October 06 2011 13:46 GMT
#177
cant wait for this to sart!

boxer fighting
aTo
Profile Joined September 2011
Austria588 Posts
October 06 2011 13:47 GMT
#178
however - mc gonna concentrate much more on mlg event
for sure he wanna win this - but i think mlg win + code S spot is his real goal imo
zap zap zap
SolidMustard
Profile Joined May 2011
France1515 Posts
October 06 2011 13:48 GMT
#179
On October 06 2011 22:45 Olinim wrote:
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On October 06 2011 22:43 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:39 jinixxx123 wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:
On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:
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We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.

I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though.
Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^

Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how.


Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ?

Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.

The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.

I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...


Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...



and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans.......


I know that, he also lost to only zerg in up&down but I just wanted to highlight the fact that his PvT is also getting weaker than it was, and that Ryung seems like the clear the favourite imo...

He is 4-0 all time vs him, beat him RECENTLY in the teamleague, also beating Taeja who is a better TvPer, and has a far better winrate. Clear favorite?...lol.



Well, let's find out, I guess there's no point in debating this further, the results will deliver the truth, and above all I certainly hope it's gonna be a good series !
CrispyTender
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada166 Posts
October 06 2011 13:49 GMT
#180
is there stream free for low qual? i cant seem to find it
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