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On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.
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Question: I'm still planning on subscribing to IGN Prime (if i get my administration in order in time), because i want to see the panels... but it's unlikely i can watch it live, because i'm a Euro, have a job and have to sleep as well. Will there be VODs available for the Prime content? Will i have lifelong acces to VODs that are released during the time that i'm subscribed to IGN Prime or only have acces during that period?
Would be cool, but less important to me: Will there be an easy way to synchronize first person view VODs with the casted VOD of a game?
Link Stream: http://esports.ign.com/ipl/tv/
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On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me.
Yeah right, Code S players are just bad, as everyone knows
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On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant.
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On October 06 2011 22:32 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. Yeah right, Code S players are just bad, as everyone knows Stop making strawmans please. That is in no way shape or form anything like what I said.
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On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...
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On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. not reading the whole argument, but MC seems to be slumping since he doesn't seem as good as he was.
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I am unbelievably excite. Show us your best, stephano!
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On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest...
Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...
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If you do good in pool play you avoid the awesome players from open. So, no need to worry about puma, demuslim, or so on if you seed well.
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On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest... Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him... I like how you fail to mention how the group had MVP( the best player in the world) and Polt and Noblesse who have very good vP.
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On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest... Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him...
and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans.......
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On October 06 2011 22:39 jinixxx123 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:10 youngminii wrote:Woo! SO excited for this! I have food, oj, energy drinks and weed. This'll be awesome. My bets for Thursday: + Show Spoiler +Huk/Boxer - 1 unit Boxer, 2.560 - Boxer is a Korean. HuK (no matter what you may think) is a Foreigner. I honestly believe Boxer has the edge against HuK, and with these odds it was impossible to pass up.
Boxer/aLive - nop {I think alive will win though}
Huk/Stephano - 1 unit Stephano, 1.685 - I'm actually not really on the Stephano bandwagon, although I try and respect his skill. I don't know as much as other Europeans would concerning Stephano, but I do know for a fact that Stephano mops up HuK quite handily most of the time.
Stephano/aLive - leaving this alone {I think alive will win}
Huk/aLive - again, not touching this {I think alive will win}
Boxer/Stephano - 1 unit Boxer, 3.100 - Stephano has subpar offline performance from the little that I know, and Boxer's still a Korean. I think Stephano has the edge but when you take into consideration that pool play has very little effect on the overall tournament, and that Boxer's cheese is one of the best (especially TvZ), the value on this one was too good to ignore.
Ret/Strelok - 1 unit Ret, 1.541 - Strelok is good. Ret is better. TvZ is pretty balanced outside of Korea so Ret should win.
MC/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung, 1.862 - MC's in Code B, Ryung is Code S. It's TvP which is still ridiculously hard to handle. The odds here are pretty bias towards MC, seeing as MC is a foreigner favourite. I personally think MC has no chance against Ryung, unless he's shaped up very recently.
Ret/MC - I also wanted to bet on Ret, but I don't want to break the Korean vs Foreigner rule. {I think Ret will win}
Ryung/Strelok - 1 unit Ryung -1.5 1.735 - Korean TvT is on a different level to Foreigner TvT. The only way I can see Ryung losing a single match is maybe if Strelok does some Hellion opening into Banshees or vice versa, but I still can't see that happening. It would be an upset on a similar scale to qxc beating MVP, which is extremely unlikely.
MC/Strelok - 1 unit MC -1.5, 1.962 - Korean vs Foreigner. I'm a little unsure of this one but MC has some pretty nice PvT all-in builds that Foreigners aren't used to. I can see MC mopping Strelok up, but I can also see the reverse. What I can't see happening is a 2-1 from either side.
Ret/Ryung - 1 unit Ryung 1.556 - Ret plays the game of drones, that's his entire ZvT mindset. Korean Terrans are the sickest drone killers, especially Terran SlayerS (Ganzi vs Leenock, anyone?). I predict a 2-0 easily. Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B? We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest... Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him... and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans.......
I know that, he also lost to only zerg in up&down but I just wanted to highlight the fact that his PvT is also getting weaker than it was, and that Ryung seems like the clear the favourite imo...
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Stupid question:
How exactly do I watch the stream? Is it on twitch.tv or what?
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Can anybody at the venue tell us how its like inside?
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On October 06 2011 22:43 SolidMustard wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:39 jinixxx123 wrote:On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:19 Olinim wrote: [quote]Come on, MC no chance vs Ryung? That is just delusional. He recently beat him in the team league and is 4-0 against him all time. MC still rapes really good terrans. Ryung is completely mediocre in his vP. He hee durr MC code B ryung code S durr. Would you have favored most Code S terrans over DRG before MLG just because he was Code B?
We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given. I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest... Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him... and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans....... I know that, he also lost to only zerg in up&down but I just wanted to highlight the fact that his PvT is also getting weaker than it was, and that Ryung seems like the clear the favourite imo... He is 4-0 all time vs him, beat him RECENTLY in the teamleague, also beating Taeja who is a better TvPer, and has a far better winrate. Clear favorite?...lol.
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cant wait for this to sart!
boxer fighting
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however - mc gonna concentrate much more on mlg event for sure he wanna win this - but i think mlg win + code S spot is his real goal imo
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On October 06 2011 22:45 Olinim wrote:Show nested quote +On October 06 2011 22:43 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:39 jinixxx123 wrote:On October 06 2011 22:37 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:35 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:33 youngminii wrote:On October 06 2011 22:30 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:29 SolidMustard wrote:On October 06 2011 22:27 Olinim wrote:On October 06 2011 22:22 youngminii wrote: [quote] We'll see. I said I personally think MC has no chance. For the sake of betting, I'd say MC has a chance, but that chance is nowhere near the odds that were given.
I love MC. I really do, from what I can tell he's got a great personality and he's a decent player. However, Protoss is having a hard time and he relies on being greedy and/or using all-ins. That's not the path to success. If he does win, I'm happy. If he loses, I'm happy. I don't like the tone of your post though. Edit: I take back that last bit, since you edited it to be less condescending ^^ Actually it's the exact opposite. Most people are extremely greedy/try risk things vs MC now because he's more passive. Read his WCG interview and watch some of his games. I'm just curious as to why you think Ryung is favored over MC in PvT. I really don't see how. Code S vs Code B seems a reasonnable argument, no ? Nope. Not in the slightest. Seems more like an incredibly short sighted and ignorant argument to me. The only short-sightedness here is you being unable to accept the fact that someone on the other side of the world has an opinion that differs to yours. I like MC. I don't think he's a top calibre player anymore. Just because he played well in a team league doesn't mean he's a godlike figure that cannot be touched. I believe Ryung is better. We'll see what happens. Please don't be so arrogant. I didn't even say MC is a top end player or that he's better than Ryung overall. But it's obvious that he's better in the PvT matchup, I'm not being arrogant in the slightest... Do you know why MC is no more code S ? Because he got last of a group in which there were 3 Terrans and him... and you know why hes no longer in gsl? because he lost to monster, a zerg. , do you know who knocked him out of previous 2 gsls? hongun and alica ( both protoss players) . So be-careful because you have no point. Everybody was beating mc, not just terrans....... I know that, he also lost to only zerg in up&down but I just wanted to highlight the fact that his PvT is also getting weaker than it was, and that Ryung seems like the clear the favourite imo... He is 4-0 all time vs him, beat him RECENTLY in the teamleague, also beating Taeja who is a better TvPer, and has a far better winrate. Clear favorite?...lol.
Well, let's find out, I guess there's no point in debating this further, the results will deliver the truth, and above all I certainly hope it's gonna be a good series !
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is there stream free for low qual? i cant seem to find it
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