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On October 07 2011 11:18 RedJustice wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2011 11:17 RedJustice wrote:On October 07 2011 11:14 RedJustice wrote:On October 07 2011 11:12 RedJustice wrote:On October 07 2011 11:10 RedJustice wrote:On October 07 2011 11:07 RedJustice wrote:On October 07 2011 11:04 RedJustice wrote:After Ryung wins game one,  Ryung spawning as the Red Terran in the 12:00 position.  Ret spawning as the Blue Zerg in the 3:00 position. 2:00 - Ret reveals position with overlord and takes his hatch first, and gas before pool. 3:30 - Ryung builds his factory directly in the wall. Not adding a reactor to his rax. 4:10 - Ryung throws down second CC while Ret getting speed and 2 queens. 4:40 - Ryung getting a starport and a tech lab on the rax. 5:30 - Ryung's starport and rax swap to tech lab. Ret now has 4 queens. 6:20 - Ryung getting more rax and a second tech lab on factory researching blue flame. 7:00 - Banshee moves in and only gets a few kills before being chased away. 7:20 - Combat shields researching, lair halfway done. 8:00 - Ryung has established his natural while building a medivac, marine, blue flame hellion mix. 8:15 - Ret getting +1 attack. 9:30 - Ret getting bane nest and starts third. *8:30 on last time 9:00 - Ryung poking at the middle lane with elevator tactics. 10:00 - Ret cleans up the attack but has lost 3 queens and a lot of lings. Ryung startings +1 attack and stim. Ret starting spire and bane speed. 10:50 - Ret starts +2 attack and a macro hatch. Lots of drones. 11:40 - 5 mutas for Ret, and Ryung takes his third while putting up turrets. 12:10 - Ret takes his fourth. 12:30 - Ryung poking through middle, but has no siege mode. 13:00 - Mutas turned away by turrets and marines in main. Ryung moving around with a drop to fourth. 13:40 - Marines and lings counter poke into third and natural without doing much damage. 14:15 - Ret researching +1 missle attack and +1 carapace. Ryung already researching +2 attack. 15:00 - Ret taking 6:00 main and natural while pokingaround with lings in the middle. 16:00 - Ret loses a large amount of lings to marines in middle of map. Ret building 25 banes in addition to the ones he has. 16:45 - Ret finishing Hive. Ryung finishes another CC. 17:00 - Ryung drops 6:00 hatch and brings it to 30 hp. 17:30 - Ryung starts siege. Greater Spire also happening. 18:30 - Adrenal glands and corruptors started for Ret. 19:15 - Ryung attempts to take gold but has to give it up because of mutas. 19:50 - Ryung drops main, while pushing into natural on creep. Ret has tons of banes. 20:25 - Ryung moving down the map into 6:00 main and natural. Loses a few marines to banes and then retreats towards his third at 21:00 as broods enter the battle.
21:40 - Ryung gathers his forces to push top lane. Marines killing broods, due to so many banes thrown away on tanks.
22:30 - Ryung has established expansion at 9:00.
22:50 - Ryung dropping main, while pushing bottom expansions again. Takes out greater spire, and kills 6:00 natural and main.
23:40 - Ryung still taking out main infrastructure. Pulling back to his gold.
24:00 - Ret gathers broodlords and infestors and lings for big battle.
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On October 07 2011 11:17 jmbthirteen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2011 11:14 Olinim wrote:On October 07 2011 11:12 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 07 2011 11:08 Olinim wrote:On October 07 2011 11:05 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 07 2011 10:58 Olinim wrote:On October 07 2011 10:56 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 07 2011 10:54 Badfatpanda wrote:On October 07 2011 10:50 jmbthirteen wrote:On October 07 2011 10:48 Olinim wrote:
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PuMa is favored obviously but I don't think it's "I'll eat my shirt" worthy. I do. MC played well, but he has a lot of work to do and his MLG Orlando group is ridiculous. The only game I see him for sure winning is against Tyler. July, Huk and Hero all can beat him. I bet a shirt on it, this is not a matter I take lightly, I seriously doubt MC's ability to perform well enough to win Orlando over the other Koreans invited to the event and some of the top foreigners. completely agree. its much more likely that MC goes 1-3 in his group rather than 4-0. No MC is favored against everyone in that group except maybe july but even him he is like 8-1. MC still has the best pvp winrate and he 2-0ed huk. Hero is kind of ? in PvP but I doubt he's better than MC. Hero, Huk, and July have all been playing at a higher level recently. Huk has beaten MC before (Homestory Cup). If MC can lose to Monster, he can lose to July. And Hero is just a damn good player and knows MC very well. I wouldn't really say he is favored with his play as of late. Ryung is the only player at the level of Huk, Hero or July, but he is a TvT specialist and beating him in a TvP isn't that special. Hero and Huk havent really been playing better overall, and certainly not in PvP because we never see that. Huk just lost to alive and stephano. lost in assembly groups. lost in IEM cologne groups. Hero lost to thorzain in quite a silly fasion. And MC hasn't won a series in GSL since July... But Huk and Hero have. MC would lose to alive and Stephano easily. And Thorzain is a beast in TvP. MC lost to Monster... Huk has been playing at a Code S level and Hero has been playing at a Code A level. MC has been playing at a Code B level. His play looks better today, but its really not that impressive. Even his WCG matches weren't anything special. Lol no he wouldn't lose to alive and stephano. But I can tell you who he would win against. Sangho and NaDa hahaha. You would think he would beat Monster than too right? You would think MC would beat HongUn too right? But guess what, he didn't. This isn't the MC of the first half of the year. He is not scary anymore. Did you see alive and Stephano play? They played way better than MC did.
Steffano plays a good zerg.
Steffano is good but not omfg next nestea good. Alive from what I saw looked like a solid code s terran. MC crushed through Ryung and exposed the gaps in Ret's play. In those two games his control and decision making looked back to norm. Also he did a lot more than just sit back and macro.
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Its so depressing seeing Foreign zergs take a lead only to piss it away due to Korean Terrans out-mulitasking them with multiple drops.
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disagree with wasting those banes
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Rets making it a little closer.
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Hunter Seeker Missile being researched for Ryung
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On October 07 2011 11:18 hitpoint wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2011 11:14 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 07 2011 11:12 hitpoint wrote:On October 07 2011 11:10 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 07 2011 11:08 hitpoint wrote:On October 07 2011 11:06 CosmicSpiral wrote:On October 07 2011 11:04 hitpoint wrote:On October 07 2011 11:02 Harbinger631 wrote:
3/3 marines are just silly vs 2/0 Zerg....why do Zergs skimp on upgrades? Costs too much gas. Mutas, banes, and infestors are pretty important. My ass. We've seen zergs lose so many games because they faced a terran army with better upgrades. Supernova vs DRG anyone? So what do you suggest? Fight marines with well upgraded zerglings and less tech? Like a zerg can't afford consistent upgrades off 4 base. Mind you, Ret was extremely late in taking his third and threw away lots of units in bad engagements. You seem to ignore the circumstances of the game. He couldn't take a quick, relatively vulnerable third with all those marines and hellions outside his base. But he could have taken a normal, relatively safe third if he didn't invest in mutas that did diddly-squat. Instead he took a late third at nearly the same time as Ryung, made mutas that did diddly-squat, and transitioned into broodlords at a really bad time. Or maybe he should have cut more economy and gotten those mutas to Ryung's mineral line 5 seconds before the turrets finished. We can play the what-if game for ever. He chose fast mutas over fast upgrades. Either might have worked, but blaming that loss on no armor upgrades for lings is silly. He had plenty of bad engagements etc.
Wouldn't have mattered since marines were already there to defend. Or did you really think that Ret ran away because of one almighty turret? Either way Ret was trying to hit Ryung before there was much AA (maybe he believed he was going mech?) and it didn't work out. It was one of many bad choices in that game, including a lack of consistent upgrades.
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Yeah shouldn't have donated those banes on the natural there. He needed those.
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wait does ret have a single tech structure?
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On October 07 2011 11:21 Sandro wrote:
Its so depressing seeing Foreign zergs take a lead only to piss it away due to Korean Terrans out-mulitasking them with multiple drops.
not enough good foreign terrans for foreign zergs to play against to improve their decision making and control
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Ret getting MMA'ed so hard now.
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Man this stream is laggy even at 360p
Anyone else have this problem?
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On October 07 2011 11:21 Sandro wrote:
Its so depressing seeing Foreign zergs take a lead only to piss it away due to Korean Terrans out-mulitasking them with multiple drops.
even korean zergs struggle with them sometimes. It is hard to deal with but I do agree he could be dealing with it better then he is xD. Biggest downfall to losing all your muta's.
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Why waste those banelings? 
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lol how was that beautiful? he just shift clicked
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Lol snipe micro = shift queue everything
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Korean's to good, dream on non koreans outside of korea we will never catch up. Simple fact.
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Those snipes were ridiculous
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EPT
