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Seronei
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden991 Posts
October 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#3221
On October 23 2011 00:06 Brainiac wrote:
Protoss deathball is unkillable by any Zerg army, Lz just wanted to spare some time. It is kinda depressing to see that over and over again.

Are you really whining about the protoss death ball? I thought we stopped doing that half a year ago.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
October 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#3222
On October 23 2011 00:06 Kira__ wrote:
look at people here not knowing when to gg

it was over

Definitely wasnt completely over. Even supply. still on equal bases and could have rexpanded (1600mins 500 gas.)
GraphicsInsidiA | StarCraft 2 Manager for Team eLevate | Graphic Designer for Red Bull eSports & HTC | @iamjasonpun
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
October 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#3223
On October 23 2011 00:05 Caesarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 22 2011 23:55 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:53 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:45 mTw|NarutO wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:43 chrisolo wrote:
On October 22 2011 23:41 raf3776 wrote:
MKP will prolly talke the tourney


Stephanos ZvT and MaNas PvT will be hard, but it is possible.


MKP is very very bad for his standards in TvP... and MaNa is amazing in PvT. I don't think MKP stands a chance in TvP vs MaNa.


I thought you said nothing was black and white in this game MKP has some pretty sick timing attacks and cheesy strats TvP, anything could happen!

That being said, I want to see MarineKing vs SjoW first, that will be a good clash of styles.


Its not black and white and I didn't say MKP will lose, but I think that its likely. Others have said SjoW cannot beat MKP even if he playes blind-_-


Just curious, why do you think MKP is bad at TvP. I've always felt that his TvP was one of the best actually. His 1/1/1 and 2 base ghost push are pretty tough to stop.

I do agree that MaNa is insanely good at PvT. Should be a really good series, if they do meet.


I think it's his 2nd best matchup after TvZ. He has historically done pretty well at it.

Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#3224
On October 23 2011 00:06 Maxquatre wrote:
Beats Idra, becomes Idra.


Imagine if SC2 tours were like Highlander. :o Of course, you overtake the negative aspects of your opponents aswell.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
October 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#3225
On October 23 2011 00:07 bgx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 00:06 BlitzerSC wrote:
On October 23 2011 00:06 bgx wrote:
wtf wtf Idra gg ?
200 supply vs 160 GG


He had only 3 bases and no army. Obviously a counter attack would have killed him

assuming we know the future


If you kill around 30 roaches without losing anything, the best thing to do is to counter attack

:|
Shuffleus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Australia764 Posts
October 22 2011 15:08 GMT
#3226
As a zerg player i never quite understand how some of the other races still don't get that supply in a ZvP is almost negligible in situations like that. That game was very much over with the situation livezerg was in, sure he could've come back if grubby had made some kind of ridiculous mistake such as move-commanding into his army, but realistically he was dead.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3227
It was over. Grubby was even supply with a high tech protoss army, LZ had a slightly worse economy, no tech, and just threw away a whole army.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3228
Khaldor & Doa must be making quite the sum, going 3x commercials :D loving it :D
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3229
On October 23 2011 00:07 Cpadolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 00:06 Psyclon wrote:
Suiciding roaches for economic damage is never a good idea IMO.


Stephano seems to do fine with it.

He didn't even do much, just walk right in and kill the damn natural instead of standing on the ramp ><
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3230
On October 23 2011 00:08 Shuffleus wrote:
As a zerg player i never quite understand how some of the other races still don't get that supply in a ZvP is almost negligible in situations like that. That game was very much over with the situation livezerg was in, sure he could've come back if grubby had made some kind of ridiculous mistake such as move-commanding into his army, but realistically he was dead.

iveseen 3 games in which players won in those position its good enough sample not to gg isnt it?
Stork[gm]
Fanta_Rules
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden669 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3231
Poll: Which stream?

Khaldor (37)
 
69%

TotalBiscuit (17)
 
31%

Mori09 (0)
 
0%

OrigineTV (0)
 
0%

54 total votes

Your vote: Which stream?

(Vote): Khaldor
(Vote): TotalBiscuit
(Vote): Mori09
(Vote): OrigineTV



I prefer TotalBiscuit's.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3232
On October 23 2011 00:06 Kira__ wrote:
look at people here not knowing when to gg

it was over

That was a fine gg for ladder, horrible for a tournament game. At least give your opponent a chance to screw up.
StiX
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands220 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3233
I think that GG showed a lot of respect towards Grubby.
"Think for yourself, question authority" Timothy Leary
mighty_honour_korea
Profile Joined March 2010
Scotland198 Posts
October 22 2011 15:09 GMT
#3234
It really was gg, he still should have continued playing to give Grubby an opportunity to make a mistake, but it's certainly not an IdrA gg.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
October 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#3235
On October 23 2011 00:09 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 00:07 Cpadolf wrote:
On October 23 2011 00:06 Psyclon wrote:
Suiciding roaches for economic damage is never a good idea IMO.


Stephano seems to do fine with it.

He didn't even do much, just walk right in and kill the damn natural instead of standing on the ramp ><


True. You gotta do it right for it to matter.
CrumpetGuvnor
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia302 Posts
October 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#3236
is there a bracket for this tourney anywhere?
Brainiac
Profile Joined May 2011
Poland641 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-22 15:11:16
October 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#3237
On October 23 2011 00:08 Seronei wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2011 00:06 Brainiac wrote:
Protoss deathball is unkillable by any Zerg army, Lz just wanted to spare some time. It is kinda depressing to see that over and over again.

Are you really whining about the protoss death ball? I thought we stopped doing that half a year ago.


No, I'm far from whining, this doesn't concern me at all (terran). It's just boring. If toss is above 160 supply you can either watch Zerg die even if he massively outexpands toss, or him just leaving a game (that game). It's kinda stupid, but nothing Hots wouldn't fix.
Si vis pacem para bellum
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
October 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#3238
Stephanooooooooooooooo, pleazzzzz winnnnnn. I want you to have more moneyzzzzz! :D
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
October 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#3239
I never believed in asexual reproduction among Zerg, but I think it's possible that, during the game against LiveZerg, IdrA neural parasited him, and left a part of himself inside LiveZerg, which in the days to come, will fester and grow into another IdrA.
Mouzone
Profile Joined April 2011
3937 Posts
October 22 2011 15:10 GMT
#3240
Kinda unprofessional switching match series in the middle of one by Khaldor stream. Any of the other streams showing Grubby's coming games?
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