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IM_Megan
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands744 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2921
Thank god they have a break

My fingers are angry at me for typing hahaha

Next match DRG vs NOVA!
Please follow me on http://www.justin.tv/meganeu Thanks alot! <3
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2922
On October 05 2011 21:53 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:52 PapaJed wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:49 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:48 superLanboy wrote:
Poll: Whose ZvT is stronger?

Dongraegu (92)
 
87%

Nestea (14)
 
13%

106 total votes

Your vote: Whose ZvT is stronger?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Dongraegu




If someone votes Nestea they are either trolling or a fanboy.

Or possibly high.


Or perhaps have seen Nestea win 3 GSL titles (and beat a lot of T along the way) and DRG none (so far).

gsl titles dont make your matchups stronger. nesteas ZvT is a joke compared to DRG's. it's not arguable.

Wrong. Everything is arguable on the internet.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Desert Fox
Profile Joined August 2011
United States352 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2923
Unless you're like JYP when it comes to vT, it should be an irrelevant, largely subjective discussion as to whether who is better at what matchup. NesTea is the player with the hardware. Anything else is speculative. I loves me some Steve Nash but he ain't Kobe Bryant.
And on the pedestal these words appear -- "My name is Ozymandias, king of kings: Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!" Nothing beside remains. Round the decay Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare The lone and level sands stretch far away.
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2924
On October 05 2011 21:52 PapaJed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:49 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:48 superLanboy wrote:
Poll: Whose ZvT is stronger?

Dongraegu (92)
 
87%

Nestea (14)
 
13%

106 total votes

Your vote: Whose ZvT is stronger?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Dongraegu




If someone votes Nestea they are either trolling or a fanboy.

Or possibly high.


Or perhaps have seen Nestea win 3 GSL titles (and beat a lot of T along the way) and DRG none (so far).


those matches didn't showcase DRG's zvt skills at all, MKP had just prepared extremely well vs DRG's style. Two of the losses were build order loss (fast lair vs very heavy hellion play), and the new terminus is pretty awful for zerg...
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2925
I had Bomer, Nestea and Leenock Goodbye already not impressive 700ish rank.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2926
On October 05 2011 21:50 Desert Fox wrote:
Poll: Who has won more GSLs?

DRG (43)
 
68%

NesTea (20)
 
32%

63 total votes

Your vote: Who has won more GSLs?

(Vote): NesTea
(Vote): DRG




Stupid poll gets stupid answers.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2927
On October 05 2011 21:52 PapaJed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:49 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:48 superLanboy wrote:
Poll: Whose ZvT is stronger?

Dongraegu (92)
 
87%

Nestea (14)
 
13%

106 total votes

Your vote: Whose ZvT is stronger?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Dongraegu




If someone votes Nestea they are either trolling or a fanboy.

Or possibly high.


Or perhaps have seen Nestea win 3 GSL titles (and beat a lot of T along the way) and DRG none (so far).

GSL titles doesn't mean you're better at a match-up than someone else.

MMA has the best TvZ in the world hands down. But Mvp has more titles. I guess Mvp has the better TvZ then.

Oh wait. He doesn't.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Reasonable
Profile Joined September 2010
Ukraine1432 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2928
On October 05 2011 21:50 Supamang wrote:
late game ZvT if it comes to a tech switching battle like we saw here, I would think Z would win because of how much easier it is for us to switch compared to other races who have to build a ton of different production facilities.

I think if Leenock switched from Broodlords to Ultras and then to Cracklings he woulda done way better


He wouldn't. The problem with late game on that map is that it is too hard to take out terran's expansions and because of the tank/viking range dominance, zerg is down 1 gold base. Also w/o mutalisks on the map drops just destroy two farther zerg expansions.
zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
October 05 2011 12:54 GMT
#2929
--- Nuked ---
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#2930
On October 05 2011 21:54 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:50 Desert Fox wrote:
Poll: Who has won more GSLs?

DRG (43)
 
68%

NesTea (20)
 
32%

63 total votes

Your vote: Who has won more GSLs?

(Vote): NesTea
(Vote): DRG



Stupid poll gets stupid answers.

The internet at its best.
I had a good night of sleep.
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
October 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#2931
On October 05 2011 21:54 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:53 zeru wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:52 PapaJed wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:49 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:48 superLanboy wrote:
Poll: Whose ZvT is stronger?

Dongraegu (92)
 
87%

Nestea (14)
 
13%

106 total votes

Your vote: Whose ZvT is stronger?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Dongraegu




If someone votes Nestea they are either trolling or a fanboy.

Or possibly high.


Or perhaps have seen Nestea win 3 GSL titles (and beat a lot of T along the way) and DRG none (so far).

gsl titles dont make your matchups stronger. nesteas ZvT is a joke compared to DRG's. it's not arguable.

Wrong. Everything is arguable on the internet.


No it's not, I challenge you to a debate
memes are a dish best served dank
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-05 12:55:34
October 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#2932
Pic looks strange to me oO

[image loading]
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
October 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#2933
On October 05 2011 21:54 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:52 PapaJed wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:49 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:48 superLanboy wrote:
Poll: Whose ZvT is stronger?

Dongraegu (92)
 
87%

Nestea (14)
 
13%

106 total votes

Your vote: Whose ZvT is stronger?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Dongraegu




If someone votes Nestea they are either trolling or a fanboy.

Or possibly high.


Or perhaps have seen Nestea win 3 GSL titles (and beat a lot of T along the way) and DRG none (so far).

GSL titles doesn't mean you're better at a match-up than someone else.

MMA has the best TvZ in the world hands down. But Mvp has more titles. I guess Mvp has the better TvZ then.

Oh wait. He doesn't.

A better example is Inca. Mvp's TvZ is pretty godly.
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
October 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#2934
On October 05 2011 21:54 Desert Fox wrote:
Unless you're like JYP when it comes to vT, it should be an irrelevant, largely subjective discussion as to whether who is better at what matchup. NesTea is the player with the hardware. Anything else is speculative. I loves me some Steve Nash but he ain't Kobe Bryant.


Kobe's vT is way better than Nash's.
Brood War Forever / NA's premiere Shadow Shaman player / Courier Collector / Bot Game Champion / Highly amateur Mystical Ninja Goemon Speedrunner
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9035 Posts
October 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#2935
Come on DRG!. Let not let this GSL turn into "Nestea and Terran friends".
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
October 05 2011 12:55 GMT
#2936
On October 05 2011 21:54 MrCon wrote:
I had Bomer, Nestea and Leenock Goodbye already not impressive 700ish rank.

Whenever you say "Bomer" I always think of Boomers from Left 4 Dead 2 :D
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
October 05 2011 12:56 GMT
#2937
On October 05 2011 21:53 zeru wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:52 PapaJed wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:49 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:48 superLanboy wrote:
Poll: Whose ZvT is stronger?

Dongraegu (92)
 
87%

Nestea (14)
 
13%

106 total votes

Your vote: Whose ZvT is stronger?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Dongraegu




If someone votes Nestea they are either trolling or a fanboy.

Or possibly high.


Or perhaps have seen Nestea win 3 GSL titles (and beat a lot of T along the way) and DRG none (so far).

gsl titles dont make your matchups stronger. nesteas ZvT is a joke compared to DRG's. it's not arguable.

Nestea vT is a "joke" compared to a lot of rising zergs in fact. Coca, DRG, Curious, Seal, Leenock...all have better vT than Nestea (and Losira) imo. But Nestea and Losira are way better vP and vZ than most of them.
Seditary
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia7033 Posts
October 05 2011 12:56 GMT
#2938
On October 05 2011 21:55 KiNGxXx wrote:
Pic looks strange to me oO

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


No glasses, really changes how he looks.
Love is more fun than hate.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
October 05 2011 12:56 GMT
#2939
DRG lost a lot of his shine when MVP ROFLstomped him that one time and he looked clueless.

He's on the verge of being overhyped despite being genuinely an excellent player.
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
October 05 2011 12:56 GMT
#2940
On October 05 2011 21:55 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2011 21:54 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:52 PapaJed wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:49 Femari wrote:
On October 05 2011 21:48 superLanboy wrote:
Poll: Whose ZvT is stronger?

Dongraegu (92)
 
87%

Nestea (14)
 
13%

106 total votes

Your vote: Whose ZvT is stronger?

(Vote): Nestea
(Vote): Dongraegu




If someone votes Nestea they are either trolling or a fanboy.

Or possibly high.


Or perhaps have seen Nestea win 3 GSL titles (and beat a lot of T along the way) and DRG none (so far).

GSL titles doesn't mean you're better at a match-up than someone else.

MMA has the best TvZ in the world hands down. But Mvp has more titles. I guess Mvp has the better TvZ then.

Oh wait. He doesn't.

A better example is Inca. Mvp's TvZ is pretty godly.

Mvp probably has the second best TvZ in the world tbh.

Maybe I should've used Polt as an example.

Point is titles mean nothing for match-ups.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
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