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Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 PieLieDie wrote: idra could've scouted that super early... i dont understand why he doesnt suicide overlords. he tried. just scouted the main. didn't suicide lings in the front which was unfortunate. | ||
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frukt1z
Sweden21 Posts
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 Malstriks wrote: definitely disagree. you NEED hydras vs. phoenix. phoenix rape infestors unless you get some good fungals off and have quite a few infestors. spire tech was a far ways away You don't need hydra's vs it. You can't rely on hydra/ling when he's going zealot/phoenix. We saw the same game hydra's got rolled due to how good phoenix are vs them. | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 FairForever wrote: No FFE for Toss, my guess is a 4gate all-in... Protoss can do more than 2base and 1 base all ins. Maybe he's just playing safe now, which would be smart. | ||
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TT1
Canada10045 Posts
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Corrosive
Canada3741 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 snotboogie wrote: Tagging a playstyle as "abusive" and shunning it is just unproductive. The Koreans definitely don't think that way. It's all in the game. There is no abuse. really? mvp said on his twitter that they should make a rule where you are DQ'ed if you 1-1-1. hes a terran and even he thinks its abusive. | ||
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KosQ
Germany223 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote: Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator. You do realize that his push was triggerd by the scouted quick 3rd by idra - go spread your hate equally among the players  | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 Indrium wrote: Players should play to win. If they do anything else, they're dumb. They're not here for spectators. They're here to win. Yes winning is all that matters but if they want to keep any kind of fanbase they have to have real games and not be a BitByBit. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 alexlw92 wrote: genius build order. even if it gets scouted, how would you stop it? He saw the double stargate, but I don't think he saw all those gateways after the mass pheonix follow up w/ the warpgate. The only thing elfi could afford was phenoix and zealots. similar to a 7gate all in, just build a lot of spines, and a lot of lings. | ||
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shockaslim
United States1105 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:45 TheKefka wrote: Not mutas,either corrupters or roaches with mass expanding and lots of spores.A toss wants you to go hydra against mass phoenix  And then you have this useless unit that can't kill anything because they won't go colossus.... | ||
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EnderCraft
United States1746 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:46 FairForever wrote: So 1-1-1 isn't legit but this is? They're both fine strats, but they're both all-ins. Nothing wrong with all-ins but call a spade a spade. I've never complained about 1-1-1. All ins take a certain finesse to stop. You can't keep failing against breaking the all-in and expect to win. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:48 KosQ wrote: You do realize that his push was triggerd by the scouted quick 3rd by idra - go spread your hate equally among the players Um no it wasn't. He had 2stargates stupid fast, he had this planned. | ||
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ChaosTerran
Austria844 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:43 SenorChang wrote: Elfi really needs to work on his unit control, so many times he had idle units. But that is scary that he can still win with those mistakes, with some more training it will be terrifying! Play Protoss -> make mistakes and beat a player with 3x better mechanics. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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PHILtheTANK
United States1834 Posts
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akalarry
United States1978 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 alexlw92 wrote: genius build order. even if it gets scouted, how would you stop it? lol. you kill the warp prism. you have units there while toss is warping in units. you don't let a warp prism warp 2 sets of units in your base uncontested when you know it's coming, just like you don't let a terran drop all his marines and marauders for free. | ||
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Moralez
Portugal1857 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:48 TT1 wrote: manner up and show some respect to elfi, u guys have such a negative and spiteful attitude - Hahaha im glad you're back :D You mean the last post you made on this thread bming idra? and then u suddenly left for 2hours and now you're back? Haha keep it up man :D you're hilarious. | ||
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Shaetan
United States1175 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:48 Zooper31 wrote: Yes winning is all that matters but if they want to keep any kind of fanbase they have to have real games and not be a BitByBit. And a fanbase is important to them winning why? | ||
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KeksX
Germany3634 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:48 Zooper31 wrote: Yes winning is all that matters but if they want to keep any kind of fanbase they have to have real games and not be a BitByBit. If someone goes for a greedy game and gets only economy and techs without any fighting units whatsoever, there is no reason not to attack. It's called doing the right stuff and that wins you the game, blame it on IdrA if he loses to that stuff. You attack when you can, and if you see that he doesn't have anything to defend, you don't just go and expand and risk the game, you just outright kill him. Elfi did that and had success because IdrA didn't react properly. | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On October 04 2011 16:47 Kylereeves13 wrote: It was a very awesome strategy from Elfi but it would have been extremely sick if he would have expanded on top of it. Yea thats the one thing i didnt like, but in all fairness at some points idra was so close to holding it off, elfi was wallking a thin line there for a bit and an expand could have turned it around , if he could end it there he may as welll have because almoost definitely he would have been pushed back if he expanded, he was transitioning out of it with collosus though and if he expanded as well he could have built up collosus at home and come back and raped all those hydras, but why would he want to extend a game that he could most likely win right there, extending it just gives him more chances to make mistakes and lose. | ||
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mazqo
Finland368 Posts
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