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Keep enjoying the games. In advance, if you OP whine, see you in a while. If you post well, hopefully see a lot more of you :D <3
RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 07:50:56
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4161
On October 04 2011 16:46 shockaslim wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:43 blade55555 wrote:
I wish Idra wouldn't go hydra when there are a lot of phoenixes >>.


I wish you knew what you were talking about.


are you fucking kidding me, I wish you knew who you were talking too. Hydras are terrible against stargate, they set you up into being forced into retarded transitons. If you see double stargate, build spire, build corruptors, add ling/bane... profit... don't believe me, ask Nestea.
Sepi
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 07:50:24
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4162
On October 04 2011 16:46 KeksX wrote:
I really don't think "wp" is justified here. You clearly saw that elfi lacked the multitasking ability to use his stuff to higher potential. Idle stuff here, idle units there, many overmins here ... However, it was too much for IdrA to handle and elfi got lucky.

I'm sorry, but that wasn't well played by delfi, it was just poorly played by IdrA.

Omagaaad.. Idra played like shit, not sniping the warp prism, and wasting res even though he failed at suprise and ff. Let the RAGE come.
♞live like a windrammer as you fuck ♞
Fishgle
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States2174 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4163
It's funny how after grack said Elfi played "abusive," everyone in the LR thread is suddenly throwing that meaningless adjective at him.

It's a legitimate strategy and part of the game. IdrA could easily scouted it, but he didn't and paid for it. The warp prism flew right over his lings, yet IdrA didn't move forces to the edge of his base to deny it. etc etc.

Elfi played a somewhat original aggressive build, and it paid off. Now shut it, and watch the games.
aka ChillyGonzalo / GnozL
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4164
Hallucination~~
#freeshauni
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 07:50:42
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4165
On October 04 2011 16:48 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:47 Indrium wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.


Players should play to win. If they do anything else, they're dumb. They're not here for spectators. They're here to win.


Yes winning is all that matters but if they want to keep any kind of fanbase they have to have real games and not be a BitByBit.

I haven't seen Elfi doing 1 base zealot/worker (what would be the Protoss version of BitByBit's play) all-ins every game. Most of his games in this tourney have been macro games.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4166
On October 04 2011 16:48 TT1 wrote:
manner up and show some respect to elfi, u guys have such a negative and spiteful attitude

coming from the guys who said idra was gunna lose 2:3, to puma after being up 2:0?
liftlift > tsm
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4167
On October 04 2011 16:44 Obaten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:43 zaii wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 blade55555 wrote:
I wish Idra wouldn't go hydra when there are a lot of phoenixes >>.


what should he go?


Corruptors are pretty bossmode against phoenix

You are of course aware that the cost of getting enough corrupters to deal with the pretty decent number of phoenixes out would have left idra with no ability to combat elfi's constant ground army warp-ins, yes?
Scrandom
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2819 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4168
On October 04 2011 16:48 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:47 Indrium wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.


Players should play to win. If they do anything else, they're dumb. They're not here for spectators. They're here to win.


Yes winning is all that matters but if they want to keep any kind of fanbase they have to have real games and not be a BitByBit.


He's gained tons of fans, I am one of them. He doesn't need to please people like you who will cry about everything. If the roles were reversed and it was IdrA doing builds like this he would be praised, not shit on pointlessly by complainers like you.
Maitolasi
Profile Joined December 2010
Finland441 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4169
Elfi definitely need those gates before the nexus.
KosQ
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany223 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4170
On October 04 2011 16:49 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:48 KosQ wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.

You do realize that his push was triggerd by the scouted quick 3rd by idra - go spread your hate equally among the players


Um no it wasn't. He had 2stargates stupid fast, he had this planned.

Seeing the bias - I wish you lots of fun not enjoying the games with your point of view. I for my part am
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4171
On October 04 2011 16:49 Shaetan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:48 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:47 Indrium wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.


Players should play to win. If they do anything else, they're dumb. They're not here for spectators. They're here to win.


Yes winning is all that matters but if they want to keep any kind of fanbase they have to have real games and not be a BitByBit.


And a fanbase is important to them winning why?


I'll just stop responding since it's stupid of me to keep argueing my point when it should be obvious.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4172
On October 04 2011 16:48 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:47 Indrium wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.


Players should play to win. If they do anything else, they're dumb. They're not here for spectators. They're here to win.


Yes winning is all that matters but if they want to keep any kind of fanbase they have to have real games and not be a BitByBit.


He doesn't need you as a fan. He needs the money more than anything else. There are many people out here who clearly approve of his strategies. If it bores the hell out of you, you can simply switch off the stream.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12911 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4173
On October 04 2011 16:44 Pajegetc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:43 Poopi wrote:
Elfi is like so much better than IdrA. How did IdrA won against PuMa? O_o.
It was like Polt vs SangHo? xd (st****...)


Idra's ZvT is a lot better then his ZvP. We have known this since forever.

Yeah but you don't lose to someone like TriMaster (very good NA terran) to win later against a very good... korean terran 3-0.
WriterMaru
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42394 Posts
October 04 2011 07:50 GMT
#4174
This looks like G1 in group stages.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
October 04 2011 07:51 GMT
#4175
IEM has played atleast 2 different versions of this map throughout this tourney... This 1 and they played one that is like the new GSL one but without rocks at the 3rd... WTF. -.-
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
October 04 2011 07:51 GMT
#4176
Wait why are they playing on old Terminus? IEM really needs to sort this out
Go go Alliance.
meetle
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia276 Posts
October 04 2011 07:51 GMT
#4177
On October 04 2011 16:48 TT1 wrote:
manner up and show some respect to elfi, u guys have such a negative and spiteful attitude

LOL. Really not that much negative talk. There was about 20 posts saying it was a cool strat.
Polt|NaNiwa|HuK|Ret|Destiny|mOOnGLaDe|IdrA|Jinro|NonY
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 04 2011 07:51 GMT
#4178
On October 04 2011 16:50 mazqo wrote:
stop crying stupid bitches, just accept the fact that you dont have to have best mechanics to play sc2 in top level. Good strategies and very good decision making is enough.


posts like this make me just love SC2 lr threads...

/saracasm
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
October 04 2011 07:51 GMT
#4179
Idra throws down a macro hatch and roach warren as Elfis natural and robo complete.
Jieun <3
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 04 2011 07:51 GMT
#4180
On October 04 2011 16:50 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:44 Pajegetc wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Poopi wrote:
Elfi is like so much better than IdrA. How did IdrA won against PuMa? O_o.
It was like Polt vs SangHo? xd (st****...)


Idra's ZvT is a lot better then his ZvP. We have known this since forever.

Yeah but you don't lose to someone like TriMaster (very good NA terran) to win later against a very good... korean terran 3-0.


There is a thing called improving you know or having an off day ^_^
When I think of something else, something will go here
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