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Keep enjoying the games. In advance, if you OP whine, see you in a while. If you post well, hopefully see a lot more of you :D <3
S2Lunar
Profile Joined June 2011
1051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-04 07:47:39
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4121
On October 04 2011 16:46 mgl0x9 wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:45 -_- wrote:
arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh grack is not back . ................. he can't beat that damn warp prism style damn .

all it is is elfi playing abusive no biggie tho


IdrA cock rider.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4122
No FFE for Toss, my guess is a 4gate all-in...
pokemeanddie
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada37 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4123
if idra made 50% less hydra in this tournament he probably would of won 50% more games vs Protoss
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4124
genius build order. even if it gets scouted, how would you stop it?
mYiKane
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1772 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4125
On October 04 2011 16:44 blade55555 wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:43 zaii wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 blade55555 wrote:
I wish Idra wouldn't go hydra when there are a lot of phoenixes >>.


what should he go?


More roach heavy and either use infestors for fungels or corruptors. Either are better then going hydra (he couldn't afford that many infestors due to making so many hydra). Roaches don't die as fast either.


definitely disagree. you NEED hydras vs. phoenix. phoenix rape infestors unless you get some good fungals off and have quite a few infestors. spire tech was a far ways away
PieLieDie
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden172 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4126
idra could've scouted that super early... i dont understand why he doesnt suicide overlords.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4127
On October 04 2011 16:45 Thugtronik wrote:
why are people complaining about two base play? idra is known for getting better the longer the game goes and having sick lategame macro so why not try kill him before the game reaches that point?

oh wait the TL high council doesn't approve


If you don't build 90 workers you are not good for TL standards.

But ofc if you build 90 probes then it's lame protoss deathball imba.
Revolutionist fan
Shaetan
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1175 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4128
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.


I feel like they shouldn't care about that and should instead focus on winning. See PuMa vs MC at Cologne.
My Casts: www.youtube.com/Shaetan
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4129
Slasher will have to shave his head.
Quote?
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4130
On October 04 2011 16:46 shockaslim wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:43 blade55555 wrote:
I wish Idra wouldn't go hydra when there are a lot of phoenixes >>.


I wish you knew what you were talking about.

I wish you knew what you were talking about. Mass phoenix destroy hydras, as you saw in that game. Queens, spores, and corruptors fair much better. and go roach for the zealots.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Indrium
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2236 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4131
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.


Players should play to win. If they do anything else, they're dumb. They're not here for spectators. They're here to win.
PHILtheTANK
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1834 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4132
Idra going hatch first, as Elfi throws down his gate and core. Close air spawns.
Jieun <3
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4133
On October 04 2011 16:46 shockaslim wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:43 blade55555 wrote:
I wish Idra wouldn't go hydra when there are a lot of phoenixes >>.


I wish you knew what you were talking about.


Hydras are light units and are easily picked off by phoenix.
Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
PlasticMilk
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada48 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4134
Idra can handle the cheese. he aint lactose intolerant
where do dreams go
T0fuuu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia2275 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4135
On October 04 2011 16:44 ZeroCartin wrote:
Damn i hate Elfi's all in style. First game 7 wg all in Second game 2stargate mass phoenix into mass wg all in on 2 base -_-

You mean his abusive style? Heh Idra can only blame himself for losing even though it sux to play against those kind of protoss.
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4136
On October 04 2011 16:46 wei2coolman wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:44 EnderCraft wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 dapierow wrote:
Abusive play is all that was...

No it really wasn't. It was a legitimate strat from a really good player.

all good strategies are abusive. that's simply the fact of the game. abusive play = good play.


This needs to be repeated.

You don't abuse = either you're a bad player, or you're full of pride, or you're just showing off
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4137
On October 04 2011 16:46 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Isn't Elfi on a basically all zerg team? I wonder if they help him. He should have solid PvZ


He has said that his PvZ is not good, and to be honest, it doesn't look that solid either. Neat two-base "all-ins" though.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
KARnyge
Profile Joined October 2010
United States132 Posts
October 04 2011 07:47 GMT
#4138
It was a very awesome strategy from Elfi but it would have been extremely sick if he would have expanded on top of it.
Executor1
Profile Joined April 2011
1353 Posts
October 04 2011 07:48 GMT
#4139
On October 04 2011 16:44 Grettin wrote:
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On October 04 2011 16:43 blade55555 wrote:
I wish Idra wouldn't go hydra when there are a lot of phoenixes >>.


Where should he go then? Mutas? Roach counter attack?


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On October 04 2011 16:44 Obaten wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 zaii wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 blade55555 wrote:
I wish Idra wouldn't go hydra when there are a lot of phoenixes >>.


what should he go?


Corruptors are pretty bossmode against phoenix


LOL. And how would you deal with the ground forces?

Ive seen korean pro's like july go corrupter muta against pheonix's, and with the new found popularity of mutas in the matchup i think that would be fairly legit, and then once you get a few bases up get a few infestors on the ground and once you lock them down the corrupters chew them up.
chrisolo
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2610 Posts
October 04 2011 07:48 GMT
#4140
On October 04 2011 16:46 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2011 16:45 chrisolo wrote:
On October 04 2011 16:43 Zooper31 wrote:
Sigh Elfi doing all-in's twice now. Won't respect this win unless he actually goes for a normal game.


wow now elfi has to go "normal game". He is not playing this for the money, but for the respect of Zooper31 on TeamLiquid.net. Seriously who the f*** cares about the money anyways!


Is it really so much to ask for a player not to all-in every single game in the finals? I feel like that is like the smallest thing to ask for as a spectator.


Are you really that retarded? He plays to win and if he thinks he will win this series with allins, why should he change his style? Only to fulfill the desire of some spectators?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ - aka cReAtiVee
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