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Murdock
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland490 Posts
October 02 2011 10:48 GMT
#1621
Hi, can anyone pass me a link to VOD's if there are any? I just woke up and I am so dumb that I can't find it myself
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
October 02 2011 10:54 GMT
#1622
On October 02 2011 19:38 Gaslo wrote:
So, when will this continue? Like in how many hours.


Roughly 16 hours from this post, quarterfinals will begin.

Yes, for the umpteenth time, there will be a re-stream. I believe it starts at 10PM (or maybe 11?) CET.

I would go find out exactly when, but its been a long first two days, and I'm moments away from some much needed sleep.

You can check for yourself at www.esl.tv

So happy to see Elfi playing well.

I'm not surprised at all at his results, and I'm sure most guys that follow the European scene aren't either. The kid is hot as hell right now.

Hope you guys are enjoying the tournament as much as I am. Can't wait for the quarterfinals. This has been a really nice event in terms of the quality of games and the quality of players.

China is a really cool place... Albeit a little bit crowded.

In completely unrelated news - I really want some suggestions for good Chinese cuisine? Anyone from around here have some suggestions?
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 02 2011 10:55 GMT
#1623
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
October 02 2011 11:01 GMT
#1624
On October 02 2011 18:58 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 18:54 Agathon wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:49 Asha` wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:48 Radook wrote:
On October 02 2011 18:13 TooN wrote:
pretty sure Revival is going to beat idra pretty easy.

what has idra done of late to make you think he can win this one.


IdrA beat him 4-0 but he wasnt sure Revival was sandbaging him since he know they would be in the same tournament.


Revival is actually pretty terrible at ZvZ so it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Idra won for real.

I don't know whether the bracket up on ESL is legit since it seems fairly uniform in A1 v B2 B1 v A2 C1 v D2 D1 v C2 etc? Funny quirk of fate if that's the actual random draw

On October 02 2011 18:48 m0ck wrote:
Has a terran ever won a lan in europe?


yes?



Sjow (IEM Kiev)
Naama (Dreamhack winter 2010)

Lmao, I looked up IEM Kiev cause I hadn't heard of it, and its player list was 10 terrans and 2 protoss.

Morrow won IEM cologne back when he played terran. He met idra in the finals.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 02 2011 11:02 GMT
#1625
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.

Guess Rain and JYP shouldnt have lost then.
Off-season = best season
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 11:06:50
October 02 2011 11:03 GMT
#1626
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, and deserved top spot in his group
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 02 2011 11:04 GMT
#1627
Jinro still having some trouble against protoss I see.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
October 02 2011 11:05 GMT
#1628
I like the brackets, if we get DIMAGA vs JYP finals my day will be made
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 02 2011 11:06 GMT
#1629
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 11:09:26
October 02 2011 11:08 GMT
#1630
On October 02 2011 20:06 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.


If you look at the groups, you should be able to come to the conclusion that the winner of Group A plays the 2nd place in Group B, and so on. If JYP topped his group, he'd be playing HasuObs.

Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 11:09:20
October 02 2011 11:09 GMT
#1631
On October 02 2011 20:06 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.


But if JYP had won he'd have been on the other side since you can't have more than 2 1st places on one side of the bracket ^^
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
October 02 2011 11:12 GMT
#1632
On October 02 2011 20:08 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:06 Maghetti wrote:
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.


If you look at the groups, you should be able to come to the conclusion that the winner of Group A plays the 2nd place in Group B, and so on.


But they said in a post in the forum and on the stream that something was random in the bracket creation...maybe it was were they placed the best ofs. People reacted pretty defensively to my comment for some reason >.>
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
October 02 2011 11:12 GMT
#1633
On October 02 2011 20:08 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:06 Maghetti wrote:
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.


If you look at the groups, you should be able to come to the conclusion that the winner of Group A plays the 2nd place in Group B, and so on. If JYP topped his group, he'd be playing HasuObs.


It surely is always a group first against a group second. Might still be random which group plays against which though.
In any case if all Koreans would have made first in their groups they would not be all on he same side of the bracket.
Off-season = best season
TheBanana
Profile Joined December 2010
Norway2183 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 11:14:08
October 02 2011 11:13 GMT
#1634
On October 02 2011 20:06 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.


JYPs second place meant that he would only be drawn against either Puma, Revival or Elfi.
He couldn't meet other second places or Dimaga since they were in the same group.
If you're not getting better faster than everybody else, you're getting worse.
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
October 02 2011 11:13 GMT
#1635
On October 02 2011 19:54 MrBitter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 19:38 Gaslo wrote:
So, when will this continue? Like in how many hours.


Roughly 16 hours from this post, quarterfinals will begin.

Yes, for the umpteenth time, there will be a re-stream. I believe it starts at 10PM (or maybe 11?) CET.

I would go find out exactly when, but its been a long first two days, and I'm moments away from some much needed sleep.

You can check for yourself at www.esl.tv

So happy to see Elfi playing well.

I'm not surprised at all at his results, and I'm sure most guys that follow the European scene aren't either. The kid is hot as hell right now.

Hope you guys are enjoying the tournament as much as I am. Can't wait for the quarterfinals. This has been a really nice event in terms of the quality of games and the quality of players.

China is a really cool place... Albeit a little bit crowded.

In completely unrelated news - I really want some suggestions for good Chinese cuisine? Anyone from around here have some suggestions?


Peking duck is a must. I really enjoyed Hot Pot when I was there as well. Nice work btw.
<3
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 11:16:19
October 02 2011 11:14 GMT
#1636
On October 02 2011 20:06 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.


Brackets are completely random.

You've got your four #1 seeds from the groups: Puma, Dima, Elfi, Revival

They each draw a number:
1, 2, 3, 4

This gives them their place in the bracket

Then you've got your four #2 seeds: Idra, Jyp, Strelok, Hasu

They each draw a number:
1, 2, 3, 4

This tells them who they play against

Or, at least, it's something like that.

edit: I forgot the part where players can't be bracketed against someone from their group initially.

Saying Korean vs Non-Korean is not a high-skill final is just dumb.

Dimaga, the only guy to ever win against Nestea in a televised match, the guy who won Assembly (which Nada attended), and undoubtedly one of the best Zerg players in the world, Korean or otherwise, is every bit as capable of winning this tournament as Puma.

I would be much more excited to see Dima vs Puma than JYP or Revival vs Puma in the final.
(of course, I'm both foreigner biased, and Zerg biased, but still)

I think the foreigner community needs a win, and with this lineup, they've got a helluva shot at one.
ezekiel22
Profile Joined January 2011
100 Posts
October 02 2011 11:16 GMT
#1637
Re-stream ?
What time ?
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
October 02 2011 11:17 GMT
#1638
Wow, European players are really stepping it up at this tournament. Go Europe! :D
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-02 11:23:44
October 02 2011 11:18 GMT
#1639
On October 02 2011 20:16 ezekiel22 wrote:
Re-stream ?
What time ?

www.ESL.TV

Says 19.00 CET there for me right on the first page.
Off-season = best season
SgtCoDFish
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United Kingdom1520 Posts
October 02 2011 11:20 GMT
#1640
On October 02 2011 20:14 MrBitter wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 02 2011 20:06 Maghetti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2011 20:03 AxionSteel wrote:
On October 02 2011 19:55 Maghetti wrote:
Not a big fan of all the koreans on one side of the bracket. I want an all korean finals. Those are the highest skill finals.


Tough Luck, Dimaga 2-0'd JYP, didn't deserve top spot in his group

I am under the impression the brackets were semi-randomly formed. So the brackets were just bad luck.


Brackets are completely random.

You've got your four #1 seeds from the groups: Puma, Dima, Elfi, Revival

They each draw a number:
1, 2, 3, 4

This gives them their place in the bracket

Then you've got your four #2 seeds: Idra, Jyp, Strelok, Hasu

They each draw a number:
1, 2, 3, 4

This tells them who they play against

Or, at least, it's something like that.

edit: I forgot the part where players can't be bracketed against someone from their group initially.

Saying Korean vs Non-Korean is not a high-skill final is just dumb.

Dimaga, the only guy to ever win against Nestea in a televised match, the guy who won Assembly (which Nada attended), and undoubtedly one of the best Zerg players in the world, Korean or otherwise, is every bit as capable of winning this tournament as Puma.

I would be much more excited to see Dima vs Puma than JYP or Revival vs Puma in the final.
(of course, I'm both foreigner biased, and Zerg biased, but still)

I think the foreigner community needs a win, and with this lineup, they've got a helluva shot at one.


I agree with everything you said, and would also add that the Dreamhack Valencia finals show that Korean vs. Foreigner finals can be really tense and exciting. Sure it might not have been the highest skill level, like MC vs. Puma was for NASL, but ThorZain vs. DRG was better than most GSL finals for entertainment.
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