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Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
November 04 2011 14:33 GMT
#1181
Terminus can be a very difficult map vs mech. Sjow gets 4 bases which can not really be countered. One giant attack path which goes through a wall of tanks and PFs.
chestnutman
Profile Joined March 2011
176 Posts
November 04 2011 14:33 GMT
#1182
Sjow was playing so well. Idra is going mass mutas every single ZvT, talking about gimmicky play...
ToyOmnibus
Profile Joined August 2011
Zimbabwe139 Posts
November 04 2011 14:33 GMT
#1183
On November 04 2011 23:29 Kznn wrote:
rofl. Just saw the results and...wtf elfi =O


Idk why u would say that with the terrible state of pvp still going on....
Huk did not make a gateway in time or made a stalker instead of a sentry..... sooooo he lost.
Can u imagine a tournament player losing a TvT cause he made 4 marines instead of 5 while defending a 5 marine push?
"His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46649 Posts
November 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#1184
I don't care what anyone says.

The winner of this tournament is TotalBiscuit's top hat.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
November 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#1185
On November 04 2011 23:33 chestnutman wrote:
Sjow was playing so well. Idra is going mass mutas every single ZvT, talking about gimmicky play...


Isn't going mass mutas every game the exact opposite of gimmicky play?
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
November 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#1186
On November 04 2011 23:32 oogieogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:31 Alpina wrote:
thing is you can't really kill mech without roaches. Lings, no matter how many you have them, dies immediatly and all you got left are lone ultras.

i don't see roachs working well with like 5 thors, and a bunch of seige tanks.


but they are better than lings. You make drops, harass expansions, use burrow, etc.. With lings you just can't harass mech player.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 14:35:17
November 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#1187
On November 04 2011 23:30 cklrkzk wrote:
Sometimes SjoW playing awful,but really awful.

But sometimes to he playing like a true champion,the real champion.


It's called the Sjow-cycle.

Any time he goes a bit quiet he eventually pops back up with some new modern styles of play that work well for him and that allow him to use his excellent strategic thinking to beat players who might normally take him down more standard scenarios.

Then when everyone's getting used to that he trails off again for a while till he picks up something new and runs with it again.

Would be cool to see mech again but I think there'll be a heavier 2 base attack on this map.
gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#1188
On November 04 2011 23:33 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:30 cklrkzk wrote:
Sometimes SjoW playing awful,but really awful.

But sometimes to he playing like a true champion,the real champion.


Yep, that's SjoW for you, he's looked absolutely terrible at times, but when he's hot he is really good, that was definitely a brilliant game from him, Mvp esque adding in the banshees late game etc, let's see how he goes in this one, wonder if he'll stick with mech.





I think that is a consequence of his somewhat soft training schedule. He's obviously a talented player but he simply don't play enough to master all situations but when he gets to play according to his own plan he can play brilliantly.
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
November 04 2011 14:34 GMT
#1189
On November 04 2011 23:31 Alpina wrote:
thing is you can't really kill mech without roaches. Lings, no matter how many you have them, dies immediatly and all you got left are lone ultras.

Nestea "sjowd" us that we can kill mech with mass banlings
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StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
November 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#1190
On November 04 2011 23:33 Caesarion wrote:
That was an amazing display of mech TvZ. Sjow didn't look vulnerable at all from start to end.

Great macro, solid multitasking. Adding in banshees at the end there is something we definitely need to see more of.


There was plenty of vulnerabilities in the early game.

His siege mode was so very late, never had a solid wall off, late missile turrets. Idra just failed to take advantage and sat back and maxed on ling/muta.
PinaryB
Profile Joined January 2011
Estonia148 Posts
November 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#1191
On November 04 2011 23:31 imPERSONater wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:29 WaSa wrote:
On November 04 2011 23:28 imPERSONater wrote:
Why go ultra ... -_-


I think the maps size works against BL's. Not sure about that though as it's not as open as Tal'Darim.


I would rather have that supply in lings/banes or roaches. Ultras just are sooo sloowwwwww and not very cost effective.

i dont think lings/banes or even roaches would have been more cost effective that ultras, but definately roaches would have been better choice in my opinion
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
November 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#1192
On November 04 2011 23:33 ToyOmnibus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:29 Kznn wrote:
rofl. Just saw the results and...wtf elfi =O


Idk why u would say that with the terrible state of pvp still going on....
Huk did not make a gateway in time or made a stalker instead of a sentry..... sooooo he lost.
Can u imagine a tournament player losing a TvT cause he made 4 marines instead of 5 while defending a 5 marine push?


You could've skipped all of that and say "Elfi played better and won" instead.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
November 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#1193
On November 04 2011 23:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I don't care what anyone says.

The winner of this tournament is TotalBiscuit's top hat.

I agree with this man.
Where is the monocle?
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
November 04 2011 14:35 GMT
#1194
On November 04 2011 23:34 Alpina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:32 oogieogie wrote:
On November 04 2011 23:31 Alpina wrote:
thing is you can't really kill mech without roaches. Lings, no matter how many you have them, dies immediatly and all you got left are lone ultras.

i don't see roachs working well with like 5 thors, and a bunch of seige tanks.


but they are better than lings. You make drops, harass expansions, use burrow, etc.. With lings you just can't harass mech player.

Roaches are really good on smaller maps, when you scout mech you can always try to trade armies/harrass 2 different posis etc.

But on that map versus a maxed mech army? Nah.
ToyOmnibus
Profile Joined August 2011
Zimbabwe139 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 14:36:30
November 04 2011 14:36 GMT
#1195
Boxer helping Idra with his mental 'problems' :

Boxer: why u quit huh? why u quit? stop quitting
Idra: FU
Boxer: u gg and i shock u
"His Excellency President for Life, Field Marshal Al Hadji Doctor Idi Amin, VC, DSO, MC, Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Sea, and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular."
Titorelli
Profile Joined March 2011
2492 Posts
November 04 2011 14:36 GMT
#1196
On November 04 2011 23:33 ToyOmnibus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:29 Kznn wrote:
rofl. Just saw the results and...wtf elfi =O


Idk why u would say that with the terrible state of pvp still going on....
Huk did not make a gateway in time or made a stalker instead of a sentry..... sooooo he lost.
Can u imagine a tournament player losing a TvT cause he made 4 marines instead of 5 while defending a 5 marine push?

Aaaand he did so three times?
"Everybody poops.... after Tasteless kills them" Artosis
WaSa
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden749 Posts
November 04 2011 14:36 GMT
#1197
hahaha classic Sjow. Minimap all black.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46649 Posts
November 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#1198
To be honest, I think IdrA has to start playing less predictably. He has to be more innovative and use multiple strategies.

SjoW is practically expanding before IdrA, and is basically straight up countering mutas before they even come out.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
9001
Profile Joined May 2011
771 Posts
November 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#1199
loving the totalbiscuit+appolo combo more and more :D
MSL 2052-2053 WE BELIEVE!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46649 Posts
November 04 2011 14:37 GMT
#1200
On November 04 2011 23:35 tnud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:34 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
I don't care what anyone says.

The winner of this tournament is TotalBiscuit's top hat.

I agree with this man.
Where is the monocle?


I wonder what color trunks he's wearing
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
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