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Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne
Vega62a
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
946 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1161
Not sure what the ultras were about, Sjow was clearly meching and using PFs to turtle, and I would think that infestor/BL + ling harass whereever possible would be a much better answer.
Content of my posts reflects only my personal opinions, and not those of any employer or subsidiary
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1162
On November 04 2011 23:28 oogieogie wrote:
god fucking hate mech, and turtle style of fucking terran.

What's worse is when those damned terrans are walling off their ramps, or sieging their tanks!
Supreme Intergalactic Commander
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1163
Well that was a strange game
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
TheRooster
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden719 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1164
On November 04 2011 23:28 TideRoll wrote:
Should have gone brood lords

did u see how many starports sjow had?
<3 Startale <3 Naniwa <3 Squirtle <3 Parting <3 sOs <3 Life <3 Leenock <3 Bomber <3 Mvp <3 Gumiho
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1165
surprisingly well played by show. really like the mech + viking + banshee rather than only mech
PinaryB
Profile Joined January 2011
Estonia148 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1166
On November 04 2011 23:28 kakaman wrote:
Sjow's been watching some MVP replays

MVP probably would have killed like 30 drones with these first hellions , but indeed well played sjow
is sjow still living in korea?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45857 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1167
On November 04 2011 23:28 oogieogie wrote:
god fucking hate mech, and turtle style of fucking terran.


I hear roaches are pretty good against mech lol. Fairly certain that IdrA didn't even have a Roach Warren that game.

SjoW's macro was just too good that game, and IdrA's positioning for engagements weren't ideal. Several times he pushed his speedlings right into blue flame hellions.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
SkullZ9
Profile Joined April 2011
Belgium2048 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1168
To go mutas/lings is a very wierd decision against mech then ultras instead of broodlords :s

I think roaches/infestors/broodlords is better against mech, was surprised IdrA sticked to mutas
Calliopee
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark151 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1169
Wow sjow impressive beating Idra in a straight up game - he just looked like someone who had Idra completely figured out.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1170
On November 04 2011 23:30 Kira__ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:28 imPERSONater wrote:
Why go ultra ... -_-


Because Sjow was already building a substantial viking force. Was kind of obvious.

yea by the time that idra would get BLs out sjow still had like 10 vikings..no point in going BL with that many viking out already.
MuK_x
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
743 Posts
November 04 2011 14:30 GMT
#1171
Sometimes SjoW playing awful,but really awful.

But sometimes to he playing like a true champion,the real champion.
IdrA "TT1 actually fucked up and didn't see the hatchery,so im at a really big advantage right now,assuming he reacts intelligently which is not something you should assume with TT1"
imPERSONater
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1324 Posts
November 04 2011 14:31 GMT
#1172
On November 04 2011 23:29 WaSa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 23:28 imPERSONater wrote:
Why go ultra ... -_-


I think the maps size works against BL's. Not sure about that though as it's not as open as Tal'Darim.


I would rather have that supply in lings/banes or roaches. Ultras just are sooo sloowwwwww and not very cost effective.
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ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
November 04 2011 14:31 GMT
#1173
thing is you can't really kill mech without roaches. Lings, no matter how many you have them, dies immediatly and all you got left are lone ultras.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
November 04 2011 14:32 GMT
#1174
Sjow was sloppy with his vikings too, with a bit more of them he would even have held off any corruptors attacks. Sjow could also have made a Raven to stop them even more. Once you get enough terran air you either need a lot of mutalisks (gas heavy) or hydras (immobile, weak to siegetank/hellion) to prevent all your expansions from dying.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
NKsc2
Profile Joined November 2011
Sweden133 Posts
November 04 2011 14:32 GMT
#1175
SjoW playing AMAZING. He is so fucking smart. Mass viking really early to prevent idra from even considering broodlords. Then tech switches to 3port banshee. He is so god damn smart! SjoW 3-0 Idra GOGO!
0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
November 04 2011 14:32 GMT
#1176
On November 04 2011 23:30 Vega62a wrote:
Not sure what the ultras were about, Sjow was clearly meching and using PFs to turtle, and I would think that infestor/BL + ling harass whereever possible would be a much better answer.

Broodlords when 7 vikings are out already and Sjow is making 3 more starports doesn't sound like a very good idea.
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
November 04 2011 14:32 GMT
#1177
On November 04 2011 23:31 Alpina wrote:
thing is you can't really kill mech without roaches. Lings, no matter how many you have them, dies immediatly and all you got left are lone ultras.

i don't see roachs working well with like 5 thors, and a bunch of seige tanks.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
November 04 2011 14:33 GMT
#1178
On November 04 2011 23:28 Xpace wrote:
And isn't the Korean Terminus different for GSL Oct onwards?

There was a different version last season(no backdoor to the third, rocks at the third and the choke to your natural a little bit tighter) to balance ZvP, but that made it even worse ZvT

Was removed for this season.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
November 04 2011 14:33 GMT
#1179
On November 04 2011 23:30 cklrkzk wrote:
Sometimes SjoW playing awful,but really awful.

But sometimes to he playing like a true champion,the real champion.


Yep, that's SjoW for you, he's looked absolutely terrible at times, but when he's hot he is really good, that was definitely a brilliant game from him, Mvp esque adding in the banshees late game etc, let's see how he goes in this one, wonder if he'll stick with mech.



Caesarion
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia8332 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-04 14:33:31
November 04 2011 14:33 GMT
#1180
That was an amazing display of mech TvZ. Sjow didn't look vulnerable at all from start to end.

Great macro, solid multitasking. Adding in banshees at the end there is something we definitely need to see more of.
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