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Leave off the casterbashing please. ~Nyovne
Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 18:38:08
November 05 2011 18:29 GMT
#4181
On November 06 2011 02:13 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 02:08 Automata wrote:
On November 06 2011 01:28 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 06 2011 01:19 Automata wrote:
any vods for select vs idra?


My twitch channel should have the raw uncuts, proper vods will probably be done by tomorrow


Raw uncuat vods aren't there as of 1:07pm EST but that's okay. I can wait until whenever you have them up. Thanks for casting such a great tournament, TB! Much appreciated! :D


That'll be up to Twitch to get them there, it's an automated process. They should be up soon.

Show nested quote +

Ah I see. I'm referring to his general reaction to a lot of the criticisms he gets. But my point about alienating viewers still stands IMO. Nothing wrong with standing up to idiots but I've seen it done more eloquently in the past.


My reaction was stupid and I'm embarassed by it. I don't need a PR manager, I need a damn life coach.


What exactly did you say? And thanks to you RotMG is drowning in noobies these days. (That`s a good thing btw)
♞ Against the Wind - Bob Seger ♞
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 18:30:38
November 05 2011 18:30 GMT
#4182
On November 06 2011 03:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:49 greatZERG wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.


"The Hatchery is going down" is not the same as "the hatchery is dead". The problem is on your end. If I want constructive feedback, I talk to people that are qualified to give it.


Who are these people + are your listeners not worthy of giving you feedback at all?


They are called progamers and casters, they are qualified to give accurate constructive criticism.


Wow look at you self righteous obnoxious willfully ignorant; so players who know more about Starcraft 2 then you and are better players than you (that includes 50% or more ) of the people on TL are not qualified to criticize your casting.

You're gold league right or platinum TB? Maybe your just not qualified to spurt absurd statements that viewers in general most of whom can out play you at the game maybe your viewers are Actually qualified and entitled to an opinion dick.


I'm sure he would be glad to take constructive criticism from viewers, but 99% of the criticism people give is just trolling/non-constructive/out of his control stuff that he can't use in anyway to improve his casting.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 18:41:40
November 05 2011 18:39 GMT
#4183
On November 06 2011 03:30 Chewbacca. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:49 greatZERG wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.


"The Hatchery is going down" is not the same as "the hatchery is dead". The problem is on your end. If I want constructive feedback, I talk to people that are qualified to give it.


Who are these people + are your listeners not worthy of giving you feedback at all?


They are called progamers and casters, they are qualified to give accurate constructive criticism.


Wow look at you self righteous obnoxious willfully ignorant; so players who know more about Starcraft 2 then you and are better players than you (that includes 50% or more ) of the people on TL are not qualified to criticize your casting.

You're gold league right or platinum TB? Maybe your just not qualified to spurt absurd statements that viewers in general most of whom can out play you at the game maybe your viewers are Actually qualified and entitled to an opinion dick.


I'm sure he would be glad to take constructive criticism from viewers, but 99% of the criticism people give is just
trolling/non-constructive/out of his control stuff that he can't use in anyway to improve his casting.



Yeah I'm sure he'd be glad to take constructive criticism from
99% of people. Right...?

You might wanna read that quote again what TB said he said people who aren't progamers or casters don't have qualified opinion to criticize their casting or somethin along those lines.

Read it
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Chewbacca.
Profile Joined January 2011
United States3634 Posts
November 05 2011 18:43 GMT
#4184
Yeah he said that after responding to countless trolls throughout the thread. I'm sure he wasn't pleased with the community when he typed it.
RynoSoren
Profile Joined November 2011
United States32 Posts
November 05 2011 18:44 GMT
#4185
The caster's did great. I'm just going to say most people here are very young and want to flame on the internet, the anonymity is why they do it. Please don't listen this crap TB.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 18:55:01
November 05 2011 18:50 GMT
#4186
On November 06 2011 03:25 betaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:49 greatZERG wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.


"The Hatchery is going down" is not the same as "the hatchery is dead". The problem is on your end. If I want constructive feedback, I talk to people that are qualified to give it.


Who are these people + are your listeners not worthy of giving you feedback at all?


They are called progamers and casters, they are qualified to give accurate constructive criticism.


Wow look at you self righteous obnoxious willfully ignorant; so players who know more about Starcraft 2 then you and are better players than you (that includes 50% or more ) of the people on TL are not qualified to criticize your casting.

You're gold league right or platinum TB? Maybe your just not qualified to spurt absurd statements that viewers in general most of whom can out play you at the game maybe your viewers are Actually qualified and entitled to an opinion dick.


Arent you that guy that trolls TB constantly on reddit every time he makes a post there? Calling him "total butter" etc? I
think you can get off that high horse now...



Total biscuit made a statement on a disabled kids charity drive twitch.tv chat about iNcontroL owning shares in a Butter factory or something along those lines. So whats the problem? If I said that I was hitting Em back with his own jokes and out of line humour.


User was temp banned for this post.
Never GG MKP | IdrA
Bayyne
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1967 Posts
November 05 2011 18:50 GMT
#4187
WOOOH IDRA!!!
Remember not only to say the right thing in the right place, but far more difficult still, to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment.
arfyron
Profile Joined July 2011
518 Posts
November 05 2011 18:56 GMT
#4188
Awesome play from Idra. He's going to be sick after he trains in Korea.
Bromazepam
Profile Joined August 2011
820 Posts
November 05 2011 18:57 GMT
#4189
On November 06 2011 03:50 XRaDiiX wrote:
Total biscuit made a statement on a disabled kids charity drive twitch.tv chat about iNcontroL owning shares in a Butter factory or something along those lines. So whats the problem? If I said that I was hitting Em back with his own jokes and out of line humour.


Wow. Talk about twisting stuff around. You are very skilled.
Everything you said is true, but you were quite careful about omitting stuff you didn't like.

Regardless, you hate him so much, yet you lower yourself to the same kind of "insults". That's called hypocrisy.
Saying that something is killing esports is killing esports.
impression
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
413 Posts
November 05 2011 19:03 GMT
#4190
You guys really shouldn't need Nyovne (or any other mod for that matter) to tell you not to caster bash, balance whine or flame players. It is written in the rules. You should all know this. And it really isn't hard to stick to, if you have a complaint about someone, turn off the stream or keep it to yourself!
행운을 빌어요 재미
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 05 2011 19:03 GMT
#4191
Fuck yeah woke up to good results grats idra :D
When I think of something else, something will go here
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
November 05 2011 19:04 GMT
#4192
On November 06 2011 03:57 Bromazepam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:50 XRaDiiX wrote:
Total biscuit made a statement on a disabled kids charity drive twitch.tv chat about iNcontroL owning shares in a Butter factory or something along those lines. So whats the problem? If I said that I was hitting Em back with his own jokes and out of line humour.


Wow. Talk about twisting stuff around. You are very skilled.
Everything you said is true, but you were quite careful about omitting stuff you didn't like.

Regardless, you hate him so much, yet you lower yourself to the same kind of "insults". That's called hypocrisy.


It's not hypocrisy hitting Em back with his own crude humour has nothing to do with how people criticize his casting and whether or not people can criticize his casting which they should rightfully be able to do whether they are progamer caster or bronze league or masters.

Two different things altogether. Not sure where your mind is.

But ok...
Never GG MKP | IdrA
ThisGS
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 19:32:17
November 05 2011 19:31 GMT
#4193
"Leave off the casterbashing please"

some ppl cannot read i assume?


+ you can search for mistakes in anyones 8 hour cast, even tastosis and day9 do analytical mistakes. TB isnt known for his great analytical cast in the first place anyway (although he obviously got better in that regard imo), thats why he and Apollo fit very well together.
I rly dont get your point, think about criticism before you speak it out
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
November 05 2011 19:42 GMT
#4194
AHHHHHHHHH I Slept in by accident and miss last semi and finals without spoiling how long till VODS come out any ideas?
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
monXikk
Profile Joined May 2010
Poland742 Posts
November 05 2011 19:43 GMT
#4195
On November 06 2011 04:42 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
AHHHHHHHHH I Slept in by accident and miss last semi and finals without spoiling how long till VODS come out any ideas?

http://www.reddit.com/r/SpoilerFreeSC/comments/m0hi0/asus_rog_stars_invite/
yet another IdrA's #1 fan
ChuCky.Ca
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada2497 Posts
November 05 2011 19:44 GMT
#4196
On November 06 2011 04:43 monXikk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 04:42 ChuCky.Ca wrote:
AHHHHHHHHH I Slept in by accident and miss last semi and finals without spoiling how long till VODS come out any ideas?

http://www.reddit.com/r/SpoilerFreeSC/comments/m0hi0/asus_rog_stars_invite/

Thank you good sir
Most Skilled Current esport Games Scbw>Sc2>Cs1.6>Dota2>Hon>Loopin Louie The Drinking Game>LoL
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 19:55:31
November 05 2011 19:53 GMT
#4197
On November 06 2011 03:50 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:25 betaman wrote:
On November 06 2011 03:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:49 greatZERG wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.


"The Hatchery is going down" is not the same as "the hatchery is dead". The problem is on your end. If I want constructive feedback, I talk to people that are qualified to give it.


Who are these people + are your listeners not worthy of giving you feedback at all?


They are called progamers and casters, they are qualified to give accurate constructive criticism.


Wow look at you self righteous obnoxious willfully ignorant; so players who know more about Starcraft 2 then you and are better players than you (that includes 50% or more ) of the people on TL are not qualified to criticize your casting.

You're gold league right or platinum TB? Maybe your just not qualified to spurt absurd statements that viewers in general most of whom can out play you at the game maybe your viewers are Actually qualified and entitled to an opinion dick.


Arent you that guy that trolls TB constantly on reddit every time he makes a post there? Calling him "total butter" etc? I
think you can get off that high horse now...



Total biscuit made a statement on a disabled kids charity drive twitch.tv chat about iNcontroL owning shares in a Butter factory or something along those lines. So whats the problem? If I said that I was hitting Em back with his own jokes and out of line humour.


When you said this in a Reddit thread a few days ago. "Victory Leads to Obesity iNcholesteroL". Is that out of line humour too?
Sawofhackness
Profile Joined May 2011
Afghanistan183 Posts
November 05 2011 19:54 GMT
#4198
On November 06 2011 03:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2011 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:49 greatZERG wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.


"The Hatchery is going down" is not the same as "the hatchery is dead". The problem is on your end. If I want constructive feedback, I talk to people that are qualified to give it.


Who are these people + are your listeners not worthy of giving you feedback at all?


They are called progamers and casters, they are qualified to give accurate constructive criticism.


Wow look at you self righteous obnoxious willfully ignorant; so players who know more about Starcraft 2 then you and are better players than you (that includes 50% or more ) of the people on TL are not qualified to criticize your casting.

You're gold league right or platinum TB? Maybe your just not qualified to spurt absurd statements that viewers in general most of whom can out play you at the game maybe your viewers are Actually qualified and entitled to an opinion dick.


A good professional should never to respond to trolling like this. But no one is perfect, so every once in awhile they do. For Tastosis their outlet is to do their impressions, which are fairly accurate, of these type of very negative trollish comments.

When everyone gets an opinion, then unfortunately you get the assholes too.

Aside from this nonsense - good casting, good tourney!



TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-05 20:02:34
November 05 2011 19:56 GMT
#4199
On November 06 2011 03:39 XRaDiiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:30 Chewbacca. wrote:
On November 06 2011 03:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:49 greatZERG wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.


"The Hatchery is going down" is not the same as "the hatchery is dead". The problem is on your end. If I want constructive feedback, I talk to people that are qualified to give it.


Who are these people + are your listeners not worthy of giving you feedback at all?


They are called progamers and casters, they are qualified to give accurate constructive criticism.


Wow look at you self righteous obnoxious willfully ignorant; so players who know more about Starcraft 2 then you and are better players than you (that includes 50% or more ) of the people on TL are not qualified to criticize your casting.

You're gold league right or platinum TB? Maybe your just not qualified to spurt absurd statements that viewers in general most of whom can out play you at the game maybe your viewers are Actually qualified and entitled to an opinion dick.


I'm sure he would be glad to take constructive criticism from viewers, but 99% of the criticism people give is just
trolling/non-constructive/out of his control stuff that he can't use in anyway to improve his casting.



Yeah I'm sure he'd be glad to take constructive criticism from
99% of people. Right...?

You might wanna read that quote again what TB said he said people who aren't progamers or casters don't have qualified opinion to criticize their casting or somethin along those lines.

Read it


This is the guy who constantly posts personal insults on Reddit because he doesn't get banned there for it, this is why his wonderful constructive criticism is ignored.

This is his Reddit profile - http://www.reddit.com/user/XRaDiiX - He's got minus 300 comment karma, that's an impressive number.

On November 06 2011 02:45 BRaegO wrote:
Wow, you'd think TB would learn not to mess with the people that make him money. Saying people who aren't progamers or casters opinions don't matter is about the most ignorant thing you can do. Now I'm sure you'll make this post here some sort of "he's a stupid forum troll or something like that"; but what people really see is how you truly think of others opinions. I don't think I know of any other person in the sc2 community that has shot themselves in the foot like you did. Bravo, you showed everyone who you really are. /clap

Grats to Idra^^ btw



Doesn't really work. I'd make more money by not being involved SC2. I don't rely on SC2 for my income at all, that's why I can afford to give most of it away in tournaments.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
brassmonkey1211
Profile Joined December 2010
United States68 Posts
November 05 2011 20:07 GMT
#4200
On November 06 2011 04:56 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 03:39 XRaDiiX wrote:
On November 06 2011 03:30 Chewbacca. wrote:
On November 06 2011 03:08 XRaDiiX wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:50 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:49 greatZERG wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:48 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On November 05 2011 20:47 MagickMan wrote:
You called the death of the Hatchery multiple times before it happened, you called a warp in from the warp prism when he was at 200/200 anyway... you are too ignorant and stubborn to take any real constructive feedback on board.


"The Hatchery is going down" is not the same as "the hatchery is dead". The problem is on your end. If I want constructive feedback, I talk to people that are qualified to give it.


Who are these people + are your listeners not worthy of giving you feedback at all?


They are called progamers and casters, they are qualified to give accurate constructive criticism.


Wow look at you self righteous obnoxious willfully ignorant; so players who know more about Starcraft 2 then you and are better players than you (that includes 50% or more ) of the people on TL are not qualified to criticize your casting.

You're gold league right or platinum TB? Maybe your just not qualified to spurt absurd statements that viewers in general most of whom can out play you at the game maybe your viewers are Actually qualified and entitled to an opinion dick.


I'm sure he would be glad to take constructive criticism from viewers, but 99% of the criticism people give is just
trolling/non-constructive/out of his control stuff that he can't use in anyway to improve his casting.



Yeah I'm sure he'd be glad to take constructive criticism from
99% of people. Right...?

You might wanna read that quote again what TB said he said people who aren't progamers or casters don't have qualified opinion to criticize their casting or somethin along those lines.

Read it


This is the guy who constantly posts personal insults on Reddit because he doesn't get banned there for it, this is why his wonderful constructive criticism is ignored.

This is his Reddit profile - http://www.reddit.com/user/XRaDiiX - He's got minus 300 comment karma, that's an impressive number.

Show nested quote +
On November 06 2011 02:45 BRaegO wrote:
Wow, you'd think TB would learn not to mess with the people that make him money. Saying people who aren't progamers or casters opinions don't matter is about the most ignorant thing you can do. Now I'm sure you'll make this post here some sort of "he's a stupid forum troll or something like that"; but what people really see is how you truly think of others opinions. I don't think I know of any other person in the sc2 community that has shot themselves in the foot like you did. Bravo, you showed everyone who you really are. /clap

Grats to Idra^^ btw



Doesn't really work. I'd make more money by not being involved SC2. I don't rely on SC2 for my income at all, that's why I can afford to give most of it away in tournaments.


i love how this radix guy is trying to act like he's the nice guy

but then gets put to shame

well played TB
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