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Funtime is over, start behaving in here. You all know the rules and this isn't the place for some kind of comments or discussion. Keep it to the games and keep balance, the casters and meta discussions out of here.
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On September 19 2011 15:00 dabom88 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 14:58 Thugtronik wrote:On September 19 2011 14:55 dabom88 wrote:
Guys, Select is Korean. He's Korean by race, was born in Korea, lived there until he went to college, and was a pro Dawn of War player before playing SC2. do you realise that when people refer to 'koreans' and 'foreigners' they're meaning training environment. yes select is korean, but he has not been training in a korean pro house with other korean players as a part of the korean scene. he has trained in the foreigner scene You do realize the majority of people and Huk himself say he's a foreigner despite training in a korean pro house with other korean players as a part of the korean scene right? Huk is a foreigner who is Korean-trained. Like Select is foreign-trained. Can't have it both ways. If you refer to Huk as a foreigner, you refer to Select as a Korean. Also, he is training in a korean pro house now with other korean players as a part of the korean scene. So you really have no argument.
i dont even...difference between korean trained for a few months and korean trained for their WHOLE CAREER.
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On September 19 2011 14:59 MrProb wrote:
On the other hand, i hope there will be no protoss left in code-S.
What?
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On September 19 2011 15:01 HaruRH wrote:3:00MC forge expands. Monster going 13 gas 14 pool.
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MC builds nexus and gateway beofre cannon.
monster 21 hatchery.
MC complete wall off using 2 gate 1 forge.
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On September 19 2011 15:00 Asha` wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 14:58 Thugtronik wrote:On September 19 2011 14:55 dabom88 wrote:
Guys, Select is Korean. He's Korean by race, was born in Korea, lived there until he went to college, and was a pro Dawn of War player before playing SC2. do you realise that when people refer to 'koreans' and 'foreigners' they're meaning training environment. yes select is korean, but he has not been training in a korean pro house with other korean players as a part of the korean scene. he has trained in the foreigner scene SeleCT's resurgence can be timed pretty neatly with him getting some good KR practice partners though =p Ever since NASL finals he's been playing with a ton of KR pros more regularly as far as I know.
oh, i agree. but select is still considered a foreigner in the starcraft sense of the word, despite being korean
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hopefully monster can play like nestea and roll over mc..odds of that happening are less than .01%
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On September 19 2011 15:01 RedDragon571 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 14:59 eviltomahawk wrote:On September 19 2011 14:57 lorkac wrote:On September 19 2011 14:55 Emporio wrote:
Personally, I see PvT as a constant tech switch between colossus and archons. When you have archon/templar, Terran makes ghosts/medivacs, then Protoss makes colossus which forces vikings, and then Protoss switches back to Archons. If only Protoss had a third option. A see-saw tech switch game is not as entertaining as, say the TvZ tech switch game between Muta/Infestor/Ultra/Broodlord vs Marines/Thors/Marauder/Vikings If only Carriers could be that third option. I hope Carriers get buffed in the future so that this third option can be viable. I would love to see a Jangbi vs Fantasy type situation in SC2, where Carriers are capable of comeback victories when microed well. Well Fantasy went mech that game, I think maybe carriers would be useful vs terran mech, but vikings are pretty good. :/
and carriers are OP in BW because of the way that the interceptors work.
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Wolf hitting us with some knowledge.
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can someone tell me why there are more "rocks" at the third base?
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Oh DoA stop trying to do that pls.
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On September 19 2011 15:03 Sc2Null wrote:
hopefully monster can play like nestea and roll over mc..odds of that happening are less than .01%
how are people monster fans already? this is like.. his first GSL appearance? o.O
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On September 19 2011 15:01 Deathmanbob wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 15:01 Maplestory wrote:
I hope mc loses to prove toss is under powered. please dont say such blasphemy. MC needs to win, he is the boss toss for life, go MC!!!!
I kinda agree with him. Protoss needs a martyr 
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Not sure why people complain about balance for those games he didn't 1-1-1 or anything. The second game select does super risky mass drop early that works only because Alicia 1) has no antiair 2) uses ff to negate his entire army of zealots. (surprised I didn't see more on that as it was like WTF ARE YOU DOING dumb) Rest of the game is just him getting out macroed cus he was wayyyy behind. (And he macroed terrible anyways.) So yeah.
Great games by Select. And yes he counts as a foreigner in my heart 
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TERRANS NEVER HAD TO BE THE INNOVATIVE RACE. FUCK YOU DOA!
zerg is the only race that's been forced to, and now protoss
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I agree with Doa. For the PvZ metagame, I think that Protoss decline in the matchup is just a shift in the metagame. Even if no patches came, this matchup feels fine to me still.
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On September 19 2011 15:01 RedDragon571 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 14:59 eviltomahawk wrote:On September 19 2011 14:57 lorkac wrote:On September 19 2011 14:55 Emporio wrote:
Personally, I see PvT as a constant tech switch between colossus and archons. When you have archon/templar, Terran makes ghosts/medivacs, then Protoss makes colossus which forces vikings, and then Protoss switches back to Archons. If only Protoss had a third option. A see-saw tech switch game is not as entertaining as, say the TvZ tech switch game between Muta/Infestor/Ultra/Broodlord vs Marines/Thors/Marauder/Vikings If only Carriers could be that third option. I hope Carriers get buffed in the future so that this third option can be viable. I would love to see a Jangbi vs Fantasy type situation in SC2, where Carriers are capable of comeback victories when microed well. Well Fantasy went mech that game, I think maybe carriers would be useful vs terran mech, but vikings are pretty good. :/
Back in the Alpha, the Tempest (DT version of the Carrier) had some sort of Hardened Shields against ground-to-air attacks. Perhaps the Carrier could something similar? I heard that a few tweaks to Interceptor health, armor, and pathing to BW values can do wonders to the SC2 Carrier.
Oh well. I can only hope for wishful thinking.
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On September 19 2011 15:04 andaylin wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 15:03 Sc2Null wrote:
hopefully monster can play like nestea and roll over mc..odds of that happening are less than .01% how are people monster fans already? this is like.. his first GSL appearance? o.O
nah I just want MC to lose..I wanna see the rage XD
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On September 19 2011 15:02 cskalias.pbe wrote:
As a terran I wasn't particularly impressed with the drop play. Drop harass around that time is incredibly standard... the question is WHY did it work so well?
I'm not positive, but Alicia was incredibly stalker light, which seemed like a mistake considering the mobility of dropships on a map like that (can easily threaten all 3 bases of Alicia). If he had charge on zealots, he should have been able to have blink on stalkers to try and shut down the harass.
But that still seems to leave the problem of going facing mmmg when you've already invested so much in stalkers (ie stalkers suck when stim and medivacs are around).
One thing we didn't see much of is warp prism play loading HT. I'm not sure if that would have made a difference though because the WP is mostly for preventing EMP of energy. I can't imagine it having that much of an effect on snipe.
I agree with other posters that its not obvious to me that phoenix is the answer, but Im not sure it isn't the answer either. Seems like it would get crushed by common 2 base ghost timing pushes (which are super hard to stop with obs/twilight tech anyway).
warp prism for the HT would of been horrible because of how select delt with HT in those games.
He did not use emp, he used snipe. If select sees 4 ht in a warp prism he can snipe it down for less energy then it would to take out all 4 HT on their own
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On September 19 2011 15:03 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 15:01 HaruRH wrote:On September 19 2011 15:00 HaruRH wrote:Game 1 MC < Terminus RE>  Monster1:00MC spawns on 9. Monster spawns on 12. 3:00MC forge expands. Monster going 13 gas 14 pool. 5:00MC builds nexus and gateway beofre cannon. monster 21 hatchery. MC complete wall off using 2 gate 1 forge.
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MC uses 2 zealots to try and destroy debris in his 3rd.
Monster droning hard.
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