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Funtime is over, start behaving in here. You all know the rules and this isn't the place for some kind of comments or discussion. Keep it to the games and keep balance, the casters and meta discussions out of here.
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On September 20 2011 00:09 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:06 Choboo wrote:On September 20 2011 00:05 Severus_ wrote:On September 20 2011 00:01 Jinivus wrote:On September 20 2011 00:00 Severus_ wrote:
Ok so now MC drops down from Code A with one game vs dude who got blown out by Clide in the GSTL without knowing wtf to do in the game...is there still someone who is gonna stand up and say that Protoss is not a joke ? Grats to Select and Sjow. Fixed. Ok so tell me how Smart,Hero,Puzzle,JYP,Younghwa even HuK all does guys tell me how they make it to look not joke-like in their games ? Don't forget Sase, Sage and Mana... Yeah sase. That guy who...well..he lost in Code a that one time...and Sage. Yeah Sage, he got an allkill...but hes on a 6 losing streak vs zerg...well theres Mana!...but he's irrelevant in everything but PvT. Where was I again?
You're going to be feeling pretty stupid after this code A and IEM NY that's coming up... Sase and Sage are really good. Sage is super smart and Sase's control is sick and Mana is far from irrelevent in PvZ and PvP...
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On September 20 2011 00:15 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:09 Jinivus wrote:On September 20 2011 00:06 Choboo wrote:On September 20 2011 00:05 Severus_ wrote:On September 20 2011 00:01 Jinivus wrote:On September 20 2011 00:00 Severus_ wrote:
Ok so now MC drops down from Code A with one game vs dude who got blown out by Clide in the GSTL without knowing wtf to do in the game...is there still someone who is gonna stand up and say that Protoss is not a joke ? Grats to Select and Sjow. Fixed. Ok so tell me how Smart,Hero,Puzzle,JYP,Younghwa even HuK all does guys tell me how they make it to look not joke-like in their games ? Don't forget Sase, Sage and Mana... Yeah sase. That guy who...well..he lost in Code a that one time...and Sage. Yeah Sage, he got an allkill...but hes on a 6 losing streak vs zerg...well theres Mana!...but he's irrelevant in everything but PvT. Where was I again? You're going to be feeling pretty stupid after this code A and IEM NY that's coming up... Sase and Sage are really good. Sage is super smart and Sase's control is sick and Mana is far from irrelevent in PvZ and PvP...
Haha whatever you say Artosis.
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On September 20 2011 00:05 ForlornHope wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2011 22:54 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:30 Bobster wrote:On September 19 2011 22:27 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:19 Ammanas wrote:On September 19 2011 22:14 Blasphemi wrote:
MC is still the best Protoss player in the world by some distance, Protoss is just so bad right now. no he is not (sadly) So who is better? Huk won Dreamhack and Homestory sure but that was three months ago. These days he loses to all sorts of random foreigners and stays in Code S on the virtue of always picking really easy groups every season then losing to the first good player he meets. Puzzle has won nothing at all and looks very middle of the road. Hongun is always a laugh but he's so gimmicky and wins games mostly of the back of being unpredictable. Genius is plain bad, he survived in Code S last season by Void Ray cheesing every game. Naniwa has no results in months and months. Tassadar, JYP and others are still messing about in Code A. MC at least made the NASL and IEM finals even if it was by beating foreigners. There's just no good Protoss players right now. If you were to list to current best 20 players in Sc2 right now I wouldn't choose a single Protoss. White-Ra am cry. Mana has also had a good run lately. Hero as well. If you don't play in GSL you aren't worth mentioning in the best of anything. Mana and White Ra are not even close to Code S level. Hero is playing in Code A for the first time this season and has no results about Koreans. you are an idiot so shut up pls. White-ra is code S level if not better than some in code S right now and for Mana he is the best Mouz player that mean he is even better than Thorzain who is considered by many is code S quality
Massive lol at White Ra being Code S level. He's not even Code B level.
Mana's on a streak. He has no significant tournament wins though and if you're not in Korea you are nothing because you're not proving yourself against the best. 95% of the top 100 Sc2 players are Korean, if you're not playing those guys you're not worth discussing in terms of who is the best at anything.
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On September 20 2011 00:18 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:05 ForlornHope wrote:On September 19 2011 22:54 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:30 Bobster wrote:On September 19 2011 22:27 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:19 Ammanas wrote:On September 19 2011 22:14 Blasphemi wrote:
MC is still the best Protoss player in the world by some distance, Protoss is just so bad right now. no he is not (sadly) So who is better? Huk won Dreamhack and Homestory sure but that was three months ago. These days he loses to all sorts of random foreigners and stays in Code S on the virtue of always picking really easy groups every season then losing to the first good player he meets. Puzzle has won nothing at all and looks very middle of the road. Hongun is always a laugh but he's so gimmicky and wins games mostly of the back of being unpredictable. Genius is plain bad, he survived in Code S last season by Void Ray cheesing every game. Naniwa has no results in months and months. Tassadar, JYP and others are still messing about in Code A. MC at least made the NASL and IEM finals even if it was by beating foreigners. There's just no good Protoss players right now. If you were to list to current best 20 players in Sc2 right now I wouldn't choose a single Protoss. White-Ra am cry. Mana has also had a good run lately. Hero as well. If you don't play in GSL you aren't worth mentioning in the best of anything. Mana and White Ra are not even close to Code S level. Hero is playing in Code A for the first time this season and has no results about Koreans. you are an idiot so shut up pls. White-ra is code S level if not better than some in code S right now and for Mana he is the best Mouz player that mean he is even better than Thorzain who is considered by many is code S quality Massive lol at White Ra being Code S level. He's not even Code B level. Mana's on a streak. He has no significant tournament wins though and if you're not in Korea you are nothing because you're not proving yourself against the best. 95% of the top 100 Sc2 players are Korean, if you're not playing those guys you're not worth discussing in terms of who is the best at anything.
Puma 5-2, Nada 2-0, Thorzain 3-0
Sup son? I'm pretty sure Mana is in the run for best PvT
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On September 20 2011 00:15 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:09 Jinivus wrote:On September 20 2011 00:06 Choboo wrote:On September 20 2011 00:05 Severus_ wrote:On September 20 2011 00:01 Jinivus wrote:On September 20 2011 00:00 Severus_ wrote:
Ok so now MC drops down from Code A with one game vs dude who got blown out by Clide in the GSTL without knowing wtf to do in the game...is there still someone who is gonna stand up and say that Protoss is not a joke ? Grats to Select and Sjow. Fixed. Ok so tell me how Smart,Hero,Puzzle,JYP,Younghwa even HuK all does guys tell me how they make it to look not joke-like in their games ? Don't forget Sase, Sage and Mana... Yeah sase. That guy who...well..he lost in Code a that one time...and Sage. Yeah Sage, he got an allkill...but hes on a 6 losing streak vs zerg...well theres Mana!...but he's irrelevant in everything but PvT. Where was I again? You're going to be feeling pretty stupid after this code A and IEM NY that's coming up... Sase and Sage are really good. Sage is super smart and Sase's control is sick and Mana is far from irrelevent in PvZ and PvP...
Mana is irrelevant in ZvP. Mana has never played a single series versus Losira, Nestea, DRG or Coca. The only top Zergs he's played in a BoX are July at Dreamhack and Zenio at NASL and he lost both series.
How the hell can someone be relevant in a matchup where they've never played the three best Zergs in the world (Nestea/DRG/Losira) or the three best ZvP players in the world (Neatea/Losira/Coca)?
It's just like you can't talk about top TvT players if you've never faced Bomber, MVP or Ryung. Or top ZvP players if you've never played MVP or MMA.
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So, were the maka/sjow games any good? Don't see a recommended games poll 
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Hey guys I jsut saw the vods Im its so shitty that alicia and Mc droped to code b -.- happy for sjow and select though
Question: Since when does gsl use a terminus version with rocks on the third base but without a path leading to the third? is it new?
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On September 20 2011 00:22 DoomsVille wrote:So, were the maka/sjow games any good? Don't see a recommended games poll
Terrible games.
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On September 20 2011 00:20 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:18 Blasphemi wrote:On September 20 2011 00:05 ForlornHope wrote:On September 19 2011 22:54 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:30 Bobster wrote:On September 19 2011 22:27 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:19 Ammanas wrote:On September 19 2011 22:14 Blasphemi wrote:
MC is still the best Protoss player in the world by some distance, Protoss is just so bad right now. no he is not (sadly) So who is better? Huk won Dreamhack and Homestory sure but that was three months ago. These days he loses to all sorts of random foreigners and stays in Code S on the virtue of always picking really easy groups every season then losing to the first good player he meets. Puzzle has won nothing at all and looks very middle of the road. Hongun is always a laugh but he's so gimmicky and wins games mostly of the back of being unpredictable. Genius is plain bad, he survived in Code S last season by Void Ray cheesing every game. Naniwa has no results in months and months. Tassadar, JYP and others are still messing about in Code A. MC at least made the NASL and IEM finals even if it was by beating foreigners. There's just no good Protoss players right now. If you were to list to current best 20 players in Sc2 right now I wouldn't choose a single Protoss. White-Ra am cry. Mana has also had a good run lately. Hero as well. If you don't play in GSL you aren't worth mentioning in the best of anything. Mana and White Ra are not even close to Code S level. Hero is playing in Code A for the first time this season and has no results about Koreans. you are an idiot so shut up pls. White-ra is code S level if not better than some in code S right now and for Mana he is the best Mouz player that mean he is even better than Thorzain who is considered by many is code S quality Massive lol at White Ra being Code S level. He's not even Code B level. Mana's on a streak. He has no significant tournament wins though and if you're not in Korea you are nothing because you're not proving yourself against the best. 95% of the top 100 Sc2 players are Korean, if you're not playing those guys you're not worth discussing in terms of who is the best at anything. Puma 5-2, Nada 2-0, Thorzain 3-0 Sup son? I'm pretty sure Mana is in the run for best PvT
Thorzain is a foreigner and not in Code A, he was slapped down by a very mediocre Zerg in his only Code A game.
Puma is a good player, great result for Mana. However, one result against a guy who is still Code B doesn't make you the best PvT in the world.
Nada has atrocious TvP. He got 3-0'd by Inca...
When he beats Bomber or MVP at LAN we can talk. Oh wait, he played Bomber and Bomber won, Bomber even forfeighted a won game after the disconnect and still won.
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On September 20 2011 00:25 Blasphemi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:20 Choboo wrote:On September 20 2011 00:18 Blasphemi wrote:On September 20 2011 00:05 ForlornHope wrote:On September 19 2011 22:54 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:30 Bobster wrote:On September 19 2011 22:27 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:19 Ammanas wrote:On September 19 2011 22:14 Blasphemi wrote:
MC is still the best Protoss player in the world by some distance, Protoss is just so bad right now. no he is not (sadly) So who is better? Huk won Dreamhack and Homestory sure but that was three months ago. These days he loses to all sorts of random foreigners and stays in Code S on the virtue of always picking really easy groups every season then losing to the first good player he meets. Puzzle has won nothing at all and looks very middle of the road. Hongun is always a laugh but he's so gimmicky and wins games mostly of the back of being unpredictable. Genius is plain bad, he survived in Code S last season by Void Ray cheesing every game. Naniwa has no results in months and months. Tassadar, JYP and others are still messing about in Code A. MC at least made the NASL and IEM finals even if it was by beating foreigners. There's just no good Protoss players right now. If you were to list to current best 20 players in Sc2 right now I wouldn't choose a single Protoss. White-Ra am cry. Mana has also had a good run lately. Hero as well. If you don't play in GSL you aren't worth mentioning in the best of anything. Mana and White Ra are not even close to Code S level. Hero is playing in Code A for the first time this season and has no results about Koreans. you are an idiot so shut up pls. White-ra is code S level if not better than some in code S right now and for Mana he is the best Mouz player that mean he is even better than Thorzain who is considered by many is code S quality Massive lol at White Ra being Code S level. He's not even Code B level. Mana's on a streak. He has no significant tournament wins though and if you're not in Korea you are nothing because you're not proving yourself against the best. 95% of the top 100 Sc2 players are Korean, if you're not playing those guys you're not worth discussing in terms of who is the best at anything. Puma 5-2, Nada 2-0, Thorzain 3-0 Sup son? I'm pretty sure Mana is in the run for best PvT Thorzain is a foreigner and not in Code A, he was slapped down by a very mediocre Zerg in his only Code A game. Puma is a good player, great result for Mana. However, one result against a guy who is still Code B doesn't make you the best PvT in the world. Nada has atrocious TvP. He got 3-0'd by Inca... When he beats Bomber or MVP at LAN we can talk. Oh wait, he played Bomber and Bomber won, Bomber even forfeighted a won game after the disconnect and still won.
Thorzain beat Huk (code S) and Hero (code A). Those Bomber games were at DH Summer right? He wasn't at all as scary back then so I hope some nice Korean Terrans gets invited to IEM NY so Mana can show what he's got.
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On September 20 2011 00:22 AsnSensation wrote:
Hey guys I jsut saw the vods Im its so shitty that alicia and Mc droped to code b -.- happy for sjow and select though
Question: Since when does gsl use a terminus version with rocks on the third base but without a path leading to the third? is it new?
Since today. They always change up the maps/pools between each GSL season.
On September 20 2011 00:23 leungwk01 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:22 DoomsVille wrote:So, were the maka/sjow games any good? Don't see a recommended games poll Terrible games.
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When he wins against the 2 fucking best Terrans atm he is considerd Code S level?
WTF is that code S you talk of? Is it the Code S whiteout Nada/Huk and all those other players?
You seem to have some "special" GSL were only MVP, Nestea and Bomber play...
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theres a chance for mc to get back in code s if he plays the next mlg
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In my opinion, when Mana is on the top of his game (which he's been a lot lately), he appear to be best foreigner. Period.
But as some people have said, I don't hold that in such high regard when compared to Korean top players. They're just so far ahead in everything, most of all consistency. Potential is great and all, but consistently showing results is what earns you a living.
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um...might it be, I don't know, forgive me for even thinking this but maybe Protoss might be a tad problematic? Or if I'm wrong, Why are Protoss players losing so consistently?
MC boo come back
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It's MC's fault entirely that he fell out of the GSL. That's what happens when you're a cocky bastard and you pick the arguable best player in the world to be in your group.
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On September 20 2011 00:31 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:25 Blasphemi wrote:On September 20 2011 00:20 Choboo wrote:On September 20 2011 00:18 Blasphemi wrote:On September 20 2011 00:05 ForlornHope wrote:On September 19 2011 22:54 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:30 Bobster wrote:On September 19 2011 22:27 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:19 Ammanas wrote:On September 19 2011 22:14 Blasphemi wrote:
MC is still the best Protoss player in the world by some distance, Protoss is just so bad right now. no he is not (sadly) So who is better? Huk won Dreamhack and Homestory sure but that was three months ago. These days he loses to all sorts of random foreigners and stays in Code S on the virtue of always picking really easy groups every season then losing to the first good player he meets. Puzzle has won nothing at all and looks very middle of the road. Hongun is always a laugh but he's so gimmicky and wins games mostly of the back of being unpredictable. Genius is plain bad, he survived in Code S last season by Void Ray cheesing every game. Naniwa has no results in months and months. Tassadar, JYP and others are still messing about in Code A. MC at least made the NASL and IEM finals even if it was by beating foreigners. There's just no good Protoss players right now. If you were to list to current best 20 players in Sc2 right now I wouldn't choose a single Protoss. White-Ra am cry. Mana has also had a good run lately. Hero as well. If you don't play in GSL you aren't worth mentioning in the best of anything. Mana and White Ra are not even close to Code S level. Hero is playing in Code A for the first time this season and has no results about Koreans. you are an idiot so shut up pls. White-ra is code S level if not better than some in code S right now and for Mana he is the best Mouz player that mean he is even better than Thorzain who is considered by many is code S quality Massive lol at White Ra being Code S level. He's not even Code B level. Mana's on a streak. He has no significant tournament wins though and if you're not in Korea you are nothing because you're not proving yourself against the best. 95% of the top 100 Sc2 players are Korean, if you're not playing those guys you're not worth discussing in terms of who is the best at anything. Puma 5-2, Nada 2-0, Thorzain 3-0 Sup son? I'm pretty sure Mana is in the run for best PvT Thorzain is a foreigner and not in Code A, he was slapped down by a very mediocre Zerg in his only Code A game. Puma is a good player, great result for Mana. However, one result against a guy who is still Code B doesn't make you the best PvT in the world. Nada has atrocious TvP. He got 3-0'd by Inca... When he beats Bomber or MVP at LAN we can talk. Oh wait, he played Bomber and Bomber won, Bomber even forfeighted a won game after the disconnect and still won. Thorzain beat Huk (code S) and Hero (code A). Those Bomber games were at DH Summer right? He wasn't at all as scary back then so I hope some nice Korean Terrans gets invited to IEM NY so Mana can show what he's got.
Beating Code S players doesn't make you Code S level if you do it in one off games and lose the rest of them. Yeah Thorzain beat Huk and Hero but he lost to DRG, he lost to July, he lost to MC several times, he lost to Yugioh and he lost to Revival.
What makes you Code S level is going to Korea and actually getting into Code S because that takes consistancy to win several BoX against great players not just the ability to win the odd one in your best matchup while have a sub 50% win ratio the rest of the time.
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On September 20 2011 00:32 Velr wrote:
Blahblahblah
When he wins against the 2 fucking best Terrans atm he is considerd Code S level?
WTF is that code S you talk of? Is it the Code S whiteout Nada/Huk and all those other players?
You seem to have some "special" GSL were only MVP, Nestea and Bomber play...
You are Code S level when you get into Code S. End of.
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MC out but Sjow and Select going through wow
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On September 20 2011 00:20 Choboo wrote:Show nested quote +On September 20 2011 00:18 Blasphemi wrote:On September 20 2011 00:05 ForlornHope wrote:On September 19 2011 22:54 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:30 Bobster wrote:On September 19 2011 22:27 Blasphemi wrote:On September 19 2011 22:19 Ammanas wrote:On September 19 2011 22:14 Blasphemi wrote:
MC is still the best Protoss player in the world by some distance, Protoss is just so bad right now. no he is not (sadly) So who is better? Huk won Dreamhack and Homestory sure but that was three months ago. These days he loses to all sorts of random foreigners and stays in Code S on the virtue of always picking really easy groups every season then losing to the first good player he meets. Puzzle has won nothing at all and looks very middle of the road. Hongun is always a laugh but he's so gimmicky and wins games mostly of the back of being unpredictable. Genius is plain bad, he survived in Code S last season by Void Ray cheesing every game. Naniwa has no results in months and months. Tassadar, JYP and others are still messing about in Code A. MC at least made the NASL and IEM finals even if it was by beating foreigners. There's just no good Protoss players right now. If you were to list to current best 20 players in Sc2 right now I wouldn't choose a single Protoss. White-Ra am cry. Mana has also had a good run lately. Hero as well. If you don't play in GSL you aren't worth mentioning in the best of anything. Mana and White Ra are not even close to Code S level. Hero is playing in Code A for the first time this season and has no results about Koreans. you are an idiot so shut up pls. White-ra is code S level if not better than some in code S right now and for Mana he is the best Mouz player that mean he is even better than Thorzain who is considered by many is code S quality Massive lol at White Ra being Code S level. He's not even Code B level. Mana's on a streak. He has no significant tournament wins though and if you're not in Korea you are nothing because you're not proving yourself against the best. 95% of the top 100 Sc2 players are Korean, if you're not playing those guys you're not worth discussing in terms of who is the best at anything. Puma 5-2, Nada 2-0, Thorzain 3-0 Sup son? I'm pretty sure Mana is in the run for best PvT
I'm not sure that it's the best, but Mana's PvT right now is Code S class, in that everyone is shite at it, and he's actually doing well. His other matchups are good to average, but his PvT is frankly insane.
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