EPTYa but his mech is good too... He did the same thing against IMHappy. He destroyed IMHappy with mech in previous fights but then goes bio against him last GSL.....
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bucckevin
858 Posts
Ya but his mech is good too... He did the same thing against IMHappy. He destroyed IMHappy with mech in previous fights but then goes bio against him last GSL..... | ||
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kineticSYN
United States909 Posts
and of course this means nestea will participate in global invitation finals as well! turning out to be pretty sickkkkkkkk :D wp by both | ||
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Elurie
4716 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:13 jeeneeus wrote: Why does Nestea get the spot over MMA? They both got second in their tournaments. Because that's how MLG had the rules set up, I guess. Otherwise, this KR invitational finals would be rather pointless. | ||
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hysterial
United States2044 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:06 vVvPastry wrote: Lol I never said MMA was better. I'm just saying that if MVP had "the best" TvT in the world he wouldn't of lost 4-1 in GSL. He wouldn't of lost twice in an online tournament. If he wins he wouldn't have won 5-3. Best TvT is quite a title. And I do not believe that MVP has the best TvT at all. Especially considering that the game is so new. Also I would bet that if Artosis started loving MMA my opinion wouldn't be so "lonely" Buddy MVP has the best TvT, I think what you are not understanding is that best TvT doesn't mean unbeatable TvT. No one has unbeatable TvT atm but Mvp has proved that his is the best at least so far in SC2. | ||
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RaiKageRyu
Canada4773 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:15 Elurie wrote: Because that's how MLG had the rules set up, I guess. Otherwise, this KR invitational finals would be rather pointless. Blizzcon get's priority. | ||
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woobsauce
United States491 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:15 Razuik wrote: I think we can all agree that MVP is now the confirmed best terran in the world. :D Given that MVP essentially 1base allin'd the first two games and they double counted towards MMA due to the extended series, I think this statement is closer to trolling than fact. | ||
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sirreginold
United States557 Posts
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:13 zyzq wrote: MVP has 3 invites for Providence already lol 1 from winning Anaheim 1 from Blizzcon 1 from this tournament MVP vs MVP finals in Providence? | ||
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SniXSniPe
United States1938 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:06 vVvPastry wrote: Lol I never said MMA was better. I'm just saying that if MVP had "the best" TvT in the world he wouldn't of lost 4-1 in GSL. He wouldn't of lost twice in an online tournament. If he wins he wouldn't have won 5-3. Best TvT is quite a title. And I do not believe that MVP has the best TvT at all. Especially considering that the game is so new. Also I would bet that if Artosis started loving MMA my opinion wouldn't be so "lonely" MVP wins most of his TvT's. Sure MMA has a winning record on him, but it doesn't change the fact MVP is like the only Korean Terran with a 70%+ish win ratio TvT (with lots of games too). MMA is somewhere sitting in the 60%s with TvT... so overall I'd have to say MVP has the best overall TvT. MMA might have figured out MVP's style for the most part, but that doesn't mean anything when you still lose to other less-recognized players. Just checked... and yeah, only MVP has a 70%+ win ratio in TvT. Nobody else is even 5% close to him (well I forgot who but someone was like 10-3, but that's so few games played). | ||
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Xercen
United Kingdom375 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:06 vVvPastry wrote: Lol I never said MMA was better. I'm just saying that if MVP had "the best" TvT in the world he wouldn't of lost 4-1 in GSL. He wouldn't of lost twice in an online tournament. If he wins he wouldn't have won 5-3. Best TvT is quite a title. And I do not believe that MVP has the best TvT at all. Especially considering that the game is so new. Also I would bet that if Artosis started loving MMA my opinion wouldn't be so "lonely" That's like saying nadal isn't the best clay court player in the world when he lost a clay court tournament. Being the best tvt player doesn't mean he has to have a perfect record. MVP is by the best terran overall and his tvt is the best period. He just beat mma again and yeah mma beat him when he had to play a ton of games at blizzcon but now mvp showed who is the boss at tvt. | ||
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Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
I don't care who won between MMA and MVP they both played well but, the Extended series rule(and the manufactured drama that comes along with it) has got to make a final exit in Providence. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:17 Xercen wrote: That's like saying nadal isn't the best clay court player in the world when he lost a clay court tournament. Being the best tvt player doesn't mean he has to have a perfect record. MVP is by the best terran overall and his tvt is the best period. He just beat mma again and yeah mma beat him when he had to play a ton of games at blizzcon but now mvp showed who is the boss at tvt. Agreed, head to head is not the end all be all. | ||
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Thorn Raven
United States126 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:15 Razuik wrote: I think we can all agree that MVP is now the confirmed best terran in the world. :D Certainly, however... IMMvp has been the best Terran for quite a while now. Ever since he won his second GSL, we've seen that his game sense and inner clock are the finest tuned instruments in the industry. He has a comprehensive knowledge of timings and is always prepared for every possibility at all times. When I watch him play, I feel so safe. He deserves every bit of hope that his fans place in him. I dare say, he is the second coming of Lee Young Ho. XD Hahaha, that's definitely a hyperbole. He has a long way to go before I will back that claim, but he is on the right track to get there. | ||
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sirreginold
United States557 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:18 Hrrrrm wrote: Extended series screws yet another person. Normal Double Elim, MMA would've won the second Bo3 and taken it, instead we got this retardation where the Winner's Bracket Finalist goes from having to win TWO games, to having to win FOUR. On what planet is this justified? I don't care who won between MMA and MVP they both played well but, the Extended series rule(and the manufactured drama that comes along with it) has got to make a final exit in Providence. If MMA had beaten MVP earlier in the tourney to drop him to the losers bracket, it WOULD have been over. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
GSTL: MMA wins the ace match for Slayers, beating MVP in a BO1. MLG Anaheim: MVP beats MMA 2-1 for 1st place. GeForce Pro-am: MMA defeats MVP 3-2 and later again 3-1 to take the tournament. GSL October: MMA beats MVP 4-1 for his first GSL title. MLG Global: MVP beats MMA 4-2 for a seed to the global invite in Providence. As you can see, the results are pretty balanced, with both players beating the other in key matches. I guess only time can tell how this rivalry turns out. | ||
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Razuik
United States409 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote: Given that MVP essentially 1base allin'd the first two games and they double counted towards MMA due to the extended series, I think this statement is closer to trolling than fact. He punished MMA's greedy expands. Would you consider someone bad for not taking an easy win? That's strange logic. Also, are you suggesting that MVP's macro not better or on par with MMA's? | ||
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Thorn Raven
United States126 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:16 woobsauce wrote: Given that MVP essentially 1base allin'd the first two games and they double counted towards MMA due to the extended series, I think this statement is closer to trolling than fact. MVP has won 3 GSLs. And he just came out of a straight 4 game win streak against Bomber. Going for two quick wins is a very efficient way to manage one's constitution. Very intelligent and well played by MVP. Then when MMA tries to play a straight macro game agianst MVP, he loses the series. MVP is superior to MMA ( and arguably every other Terran existing) in every single aspect of TvT: macro, micro, game sense, decision making and comprehensive timing knowledge. | ||
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Stanlot
United States5742 Posts
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Hierarch
United States2197 Posts
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justsayinbro
307 Posts
On October 29 2011 11:25 Thorn Raven wrote: MVP has won 3 GSLs. And he just came out of a straight 4 game win streak against Bomber. Going for two quick wins is a very efficient way to manage one's constitution. Very intelligent and well played by MVP. Then when MMA tries to play a straight macro game agianst MVP, he loses the series. MVP is superior to MMA ( and arguably every other Terran existing) in every single aspect of TvT: macro, micro, game sense, decision making and comprehensive timing knowledge. who won the last gsl? there is no way you can say MVP is superior to MMA after seeing that series... i even agree with you that mvp > mma but you can't say superior when mma has taken out mvp just recently | ||
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