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On September 09 2011 04:51 PuercoPop wrote:
Greate Games. Specially Taeja vs JYP on TA. But please, have Tastosis to Coach Moletrap on casting. If he is going to be a permanent at least get him to a decent level. As another example of I don't know what teh fuck is going on. 'Taeja is going to get his third while JYP has had his third for a while know' When Tajea was getting this FOURTH. The whole reason JYP didn't win that game with his excellent harass was because Taeja had snuck an early third at 9 o'clock. Like his personality ( and <3 his recurring joke about the song saying 'mole mole mole') but abhor his oblivious casting.
Moletrap is actually awesome solo, it's when he's with a cocaster and gets excited that he goes full retard.
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On September 09 2011 04:49 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 04:35 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:32 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:18 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:06 Terrestrialrage wrote:On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:
5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer
7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa
20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi. I could see a zerg taking this season with a line-up like that. That is an extraordinary list of talent coming from the Z side. P is just screwed and I wouldnt be surprised if there was 0-2 Ps in the Ro16 (Puzzle is pretty good, Huk almost as good). While there may be a lot of Ts, I could see the Ro4 being 2Z 2T. Brackets arent posted yet so I'm hoping we dont see any DRG/Nestea/Losira/Leenock combination in the Ro32. Zergs players can't win against Mvp  . Bomber can take out MVP and he's definitely mortal in TvZ. Problem solved! Now we just have to make sure Bomber doesn't dick around too much in his matches and lose before he comes up against MVP ... might be a difficult task, unfortunately. I'm not really sure that Bomber can beat Mvp if Mvp has to win (remember code A winner or runner-up had the same prize : choose ur up&down group and little money) in all honesty. And even if he were able, Mvp is looking particulary in shape recently, in every match-up So just because the monetary prize and the advantages of winning Code A were similar, you don't think MVP tried? Riiiiiight. I'm not saying that Bomber will beat MVP if they ever meet up again, but what I am saying is that he probably has the best chance of beating him over any other player currently in Code S, jetlag and screwing around notwithstanding.
They are friends and practiced together. Mvp didn't have the o-face and didn't seem affected by his losses. And he was sick for his matches, maybe for the final too. I remember him getting supply blocked quite a couple times and that doesn't look Mvp-like at all.
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@OrangeMilkis Wooju Lee
Hahaha, right now the "Weakest Race" Poll in Korea has 87% voting for Protoss. Sick.
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better enjoy tvt for next gsl....
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On September 09 2011 04:51 PuercoPop wrote:
Greate Games. Specially Taeja vs JYP on TA. But please, have Tastosis to Coach Moletrap on casting. If he is going to be a permanent at least get him to a decent level. As another example of I don't know what teh fuck is going on. 'Taeja is going to get his third while JYP has had his third for a while know' When Tajea was getting this FOURTH. The whole reason JYP didn't win that game with his excellent harass was because Taeja had snuck an early third at 9 o'clock. Like his personality ( and <3 his recurring joke about the song saying 'mole mole mole') but abhor his oblivious casting.
I think the reason why mole trap always missed expansion and such is because he is looking at a different screen than the stream(so he can freely observe stuff i think) and on that screen a portion of the mini map is cut out (as they said many times). Still he could do better
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On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 03:44 gozima wrote:20  in code s next month? wtf. Could someone tell me how many  and  there are for code s next month as well? I don't fault GSL for the way code s is turning out, but I probably won't subscribe next month. Way too many . Terran definitely needs an overhaul. I have no idea how, but here's hoping Blizz can figure something out. :D 5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer 7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa 20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi.
Wow, as a Zerg player while we may not have that many players, i think the quality of Zergs in code S is very good.
Personally i see Zenio as the weakest link. Though now with the conclusion of the up/down matches, even Zenio has stayed in Code S longer than any other Zerg, and is tied with Nestea. Which is an impressive feat in its self.
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On September 09 2011 04:58 Poopi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 04:49 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:35 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:32 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:18 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:06 Terrestrialrage wrote:On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:
5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer
7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa
20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi. I could see a zerg taking this season with a line-up like that. That is an extraordinary list of talent coming from the Z side. P is just screwed and I wouldnt be surprised if there was 0-2 Ps in the Ro16 (Puzzle is pretty good, Huk almost as good). While there may be a lot of Ts, I could see the Ro4 being 2Z 2T. Brackets arent posted yet so I'm hoping we dont see any DRG/Nestea/Losira/Leenock combination in the Ro32. Zergs players can't win against Mvp . Bomber can take out MVP and he's definitely mortal in TvZ. Problem solved! Now we just have to make sure Bomber doesn't dick around too much in his matches and lose before he comes up against MVP ... might be a difficult task, unfortunately. I'm not really sure that Bomber can beat Mvp if Mvp has to win (remember code A winner or runner-up had the same prize : choose ur up&down group and little money) in all honesty. And even if he were able, Mvp is looking particulary in shape recently, in every match-up So just because the monetary prize and the advantages of winning Code A were similar, you don't think MVP tried? Riiiiiight. I'm not saying that Bomber will beat MVP if they ever meet up again, but what I am saying is that he probably has the best chance of beating him over any other player currently in Code S, jetlag and screwing around notwithstanding. They are friends and practiced together. Mvp didn't have the o-face and didn't seem affected by his losses. And he was sick for his matches, maybe for the final too. I remember him getting supply blocked quite a couple times and that doesn't look Mvp-like at all.
I don't know what you're arguing. Are you denying that Bomber has the best chance out of all the players in the GSL at taking out MVP?
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On September 09 2011 04:46 akaname wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 04:43 dgwow wrote:On September 08 2011 17:00 dgwow wrote:
Chances are favoring Taeja and MKP winning this, but if MKP makes bad decisions in his games like he does often I could see JYP getting through 6/6 on my up and downs! I should go buy a lottery ticket ^^ nah, lottery requires luck, you're just super smart with the U+Ds 
I guess but the second series went to like 15 games haha
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Scumbag team liquid: tells Protoss to try new strategies, calls them gimmicky when they do.
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On September 09 2011 05:06 babylon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 04:58 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:49 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:35 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:32 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:18 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:06 Terrestrialrage wrote:On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:
5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer
7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa
20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi. I could see a zerg taking this season with a line-up like that. That is an extraordinary list of talent coming from the Z side. P is just screwed and I wouldnt be surprised if there was 0-2 Ps in the Ro16 (Puzzle is pretty good, Huk almost as good). While there may be a lot of Ts, I could see the Ro4 being 2Z 2T. Brackets arent posted yet so I'm hoping we dont see any DRG/Nestea/Losira/Leenock combination in the Ro32. Zergs players can't win against Mvp . Bomber can take out MVP and he's definitely mortal in TvZ. Problem solved! Now we just have to make sure Bomber doesn't dick around too much in his matches and lose before he comes up against MVP ... might be a difficult task, unfortunately. I'm not really sure that Bomber can beat Mvp if Mvp has to win (remember code A winner or runner-up had the same prize : choose ur up&down group and little money) in all honesty. And even if he were able, Mvp is looking particulary in shape recently, in every match-up So just because the monetary prize and the advantages of winning Code A were similar, you don't think MVP tried? Riiiiiight. I'm not saying that Bomber will beat MVP if they ever meet up again, but what I am saying is that he probably has the best chance of beating him over any other player currently in Code S, jetlag and screwing around notwithstanding. They are friends and practiced together. Mvp didn't have the o-face and didn't seem affected by his losses. And he was sick for his matches, maybe for the final too. I remember him getting supply blocked quite a couple times and that doesn't look Mvp-like at all. I don't know what you're arguing. Are you denying that Bomber has the best chance out of all the players in the GSL at taking out MVP?
It's definitely Bomber in my opinion. I can't see anyone else holding a candle to August - September MVP.
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Great comeback from MarineKing !
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On September 09 2011 05:14 QTIP. wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 05:06 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:58 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:49 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:35 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:32 babylon wrote:On September 09 2011 04:18 Poopi wrote:On September 09 2011 04:06 Terrestrialrage wrote:On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:
5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer
7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa
20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi. I could see a zerg taking this season with a line-up like that. That is an extraordinary list of talent coming from the Z side. P is just screwed and I wouldnt be surprised if there was 0-2 Ps in the Ro16 (Puzzle is pretty good, Huk almost as good). While there may be a lot of Ts, I could see the Ro4 being 2Z 2T. Brackets arent posted yet so I'm hoping we dont see any DRG/Nestea/Losira/Leenock combination in the Ro32. Zergs players can't win against Mvp . Bomber can take out MVP and he's definitely mortal in TvZ. Problem solved! Now we just have to make sure Bomber doesn't dick around too much in his matches and lose before he comes up against MVP ... might be a difficult task, unfortunately. I'm not really sure that Bomber can beat Mvp if Mvp has to win (remember code A winner or runner-up had the same prize : choose ur up&down group and little money) in all honesty. And even if he were able, Mvp is looking particulary in shape recently, in every match-up So just because the monetary prize and the advantages of winning Code A were similar, you don't think MVP tried? Riiiiiight. I'm not saying that Bomber will beat MVP if they ever meet up again, but what I am saying is that he probably has the best chance of beating him over any other player currently in Code S, jetlag and screwing around notwithstanding. They are friends and practiced together. Mvp didn't have the o-face and didn't seem affected by his losses. And he was sick for his matches, maybe for the final too. I remember him getting supply blocked quite a couple times and that doesn't look Mvp-like at all. I don't know what you're arguing. Are you denying that Bomber has the best chance out of all the players in the GSL at taking out MVP? It's definitely Bomber in my opinion. I can't see anyone else holding a candle to August - September MVP.
it wasnt long ago that Bomber won 4-2 over MVP in code A finals.
Just sayin
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MKP VS MMA TONIGHT! :DDDDDDDDDD
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On September 09 2011 05:00 powerdawg96 wrote:
better enjoy tvt for next gsl....
pretty much my thoughts now heh.
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I feel bad for GOM. They're already facing the fact that the Sc2 in Korea just isn't as popular, and they've had absolute shit luck for code S finals, and now they're sponsoring a game with 20/32 players being the same race. They've had such great production value for the entirety of the game's history, but the game just isn't cooperating.
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On September 09 2011 03:19 jj33 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 02:00 ForeverSleep wrote:On September 09 2011 01:09 jj33 wrote:On September 09 2011 00:59 Orcinus33ft wrote:On September 08 2011 22:22 Adreme wrote:
I find it annoying that the best players keep choosing terran. I know each race has a few players who dont deserve code S but it seems terran players are just solid lately with a pretty low amount of protoss players who honestly deserve code S. Honestly the only protoss who deserved code S who didnt get it was JYP but fate intervened so that MKP would get 2nd yet again. I'm a Korean and have been an e-sports fan for a long time, and I think I can safely say that statement is just plain wrong. There's no reason to think terran pro players have superior skills over protoss or zerg players, perhaps with only exception of MVP, probably was only pro player competitive enough in SC1 leagues when SC2 and GSL launched. But even MVP didn't "choose" terran in SC2 for any particular reason, he chose it because he was also a terran player in SC1. I'm not sure why this kind of myth keeps coming.. maybe because David Kim once said some similar remark? That remark was just lame. Nobody in Korean forum (like playxp) take it seriously. And nobody thinks JYP was outplayed by those two terran players. That's not the reason he couldn't make it. He did everything he could, and he did it pretty well, but just was playing wrong race. Now everybody with common sense should notice there's something wrong in the game itself when you see 20 players out of 32 are playing certain race. In elite level, protoss just can't beat terran. You guys souldn't bash MKP just because he did 1-1-1. He did what he is supposed to do. To win. You should bash Blizzard for allowing him to do that. And worse news? Upcoming 1.4 patch will be no cure for 1-1-1 nor EMP. Terran was dominant in bw too. Didn't mean it was imbalanced. Protoss is more than fine in sc2. If anything they need changes not because of racial imbalance, but because I feel they are boring as hell. I've always felt warp gate mechanic was flawed as well. so protoss should be changed because your opinion is that they are boring? What about my opinion that tvt is boring to watch for me? because seriously, I dont see the fun in watching tanks sieging and tanks unsieging every single days... What? If you have a problem with Terran due to their inherent design please say so. I said protoss should be changed because I strongly feel they are badly designed and not just boring to watch but boring as hell to play. And as far as TVT being boring for you, mirrors in general aren't as popular as non mirror matchups and I clearly said protoss should get redesigned not due to balance issues, but their inherent design. I find protoss extremely boring to play and many protoss players I know say the same thing. Terran on the otherhand I feel is very well designed. Blizzard spent the most time designing terran and it clearly shows.
hum..then if you want to go there, well, I find terran boring to watch AND to play. The main reason why i dont like terran is the fact they are have a somewhat ''standard'' rts playstyle, in term of mechanics. For me the reason i play anything BUT terran is that the other race have that ''non average rts'' feeling on them (mechanics like larvae and warpgates are not something you would find normally in another rts, and therefore, bring something new and refreshing for me, in an rts).
As for TvT, it was only an example (aimed tackle at the fact that there are so many terrans in gsl, really). I do find that matchup boring to watch, and actually many people find it boring to play too, mainly because it is ALWAYS long, and always end up being tanks sieging and tanks unsieging. If you want to know, I do enjoy watching, for example, pvp, because of the fact that many of those games depend on unit control (well, i guess I am a Warcraft 3 player after all) and the fact that it seems very reliant on making good readings on your opponent (especially that it is somewhat less 4 gate vs 4 gate anymore).
Now what I am trying to say there is that its all a question of tastes. outright saying that ''you don't like protoss'' and that it should ABSOLUTELY be changed because YOU (and some ''friends'') think they are ''not well designed'' is the part that tickles me. Why should something be changed because YOU dont like it? Because I can find you as many people that dont like, say, terran and find them boring. I for one, think that those kind that "non conventional" gameplay mechanics gives starcraft more dept, that little something you dont have in other games of the genre. Sure, when you try to add those kind of mechanics, they will feel flawed, or really weird and even hard to balance. But the fact that blizzard finds a way to add those actually makes starcraft what it is. Removing them is not the answer.
In conclusion, I think terran should be changed and redesigned because I think they are boring to play and way too conventional. (now, I want you to tell me, does my last sentence make any sense? does it sound smart? Should something be done just because of my opinion? I dont think so. But thats how you sound).
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On September 09 2011 04:11 tomatriedes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:On September 09 2011 03:44 gozima wrote:20 in code s next month? wtf. Could someone tell me how many and there are for code s next month as well? I don't fault GSL for the way code s is turning out, but I probably won't subscribe next month. Way too many . Terran definitely needs an overhaul. I have no idea how, but here's hoping Blizz can figure something out. :D 5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer 7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa 20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi. Four of the protoss should try and get into the same group. Then they could at least guarantee a couple of toss in the ro16.
That won't be possible, any available tosses will be seen as easy pickings and gobbled up immediately.
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On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 03:44 gozima wrote:20 in code s next month? wtf. Could someone tell me how many and there are for code s next month as well? I don't fault GSL for the way code s is turning out, but I probably won't subscribe next month. Way too many . Terran definitely needs an overhaul. I have no idea how, but here's hoping Blizz can figure something out. :D 5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer 7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa 20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi.
Damn, when you lay it out like that's its a lot more depressing / uninspiring.
SC2 interest dropping by the day. T.T
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On September 09 2011 05:35 Fig wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 04:11 tomatriedes wrote:On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:On September 09 2011 03:44 gozima wrote:20 in code s next month? wtf. Could someone tell me how many and there are for code s next month as well? I don't fault GSL for the way code s is turning out, but I probably won't subscribe next month. Way too many . Terran definitely needs an overhaul. I have no idea how, but here's hoping Blizz can figure something out. :D 5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer 7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa 20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi. Four of the protoss should try and get into the same group. Then they could at least guarantee a couple of toss in the ro16. That won't be possible, any available tosses will be seen as easy pickings and gobbled up immediately.
nom nom nom so true, if i were a T/Z and i got to choose an opponent i would pick a poor protoss player cause i would be almost guaranteed a safe trip to the ro16
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On September 09 2011 03:55 HouseofFlyingDaggers wrote:Show nested quote +On September 09 2011 03:44 gozima wrote:20 in code s next month? wtf. Could someone tell me how many and there are for code s next month as well? I don't fault GSL for the way code s is turning out, but I probably won't subscribe next month. Way too many . Terran definitely needs an overhaul. I have no idea how, but here's hoping Blizz can figure something out. :D 5 Protoss - HuK, Puzzle, HongUn, Genius and Killer 7 Zerg - DongRaeGu, LosirA, NesTea, Leenock, July, Zenio, CoCa 20 Terran - Polt, MVP, Keen, TOP, Ryung, MMA, Bomber, Virus, NaDa, Happy, asd, Clide, Noblesse, aLive, Ensnare, SuperNoVa, Jjakji, Teaja, MarineKing, Ganzi.
Code S looks so lonely without MC.
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