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Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 10 2011 16:52 GMT
#1441
On September 11 2011 01:50 Xanwi wrote:
All the Tyler hate is disgusting. =(


I can only hope he won't be reading this thread.

It's quite disgusting, yeah.
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
September 10 2011 16:53 GMT
#1442
A lot of people with short memories.

SCI1 had as many 3-0s in the RO8 as SCI3. Nobody complained about "popular invites" then. 3-0s happen, it's unfortunate, we don't like it either, but it happens.

Too much negativity for what's supposed to be a fun event, some people just want everything to be miserable.
CommentatorHost of SHOUTcraft Clan Wars- http://www.mlg.tv/shoutcraft
ScaringKids
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal819 Posts
September 10 2011 16:53 GMT
#1443
I actually enjoyed the games, am i alone here?

Im excited for tomorrow and really dont get all this whining, people rather complain than actually enjoy stuff???

Also great casting, keep it up.
MC | NesTea | Jaedong | PartinG | Liquid'HerO | MvP | Flash | White-Ra | Polt | Squirtle |
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-10 16:54:40
September 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#1444
On September 11 2011 01:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
A lot of people with short memories.

SCI1 had as many 3-0s in the RO8 as SCI3. Nobody complained about "popular invites" then. 3-0s happen, it's unfortunate, we don't like it either, but it happens.

Too much negativity for what's supposed to be a fun event, some people just want everything to be miserable.


It's not like 3-0s and clean sweeps never happen in the highest level tournaments anyway (GSL -_-), that complaint is ridiculous.

Sadly one can not really expect better of TL these days.

Anyways thanks for the awesome tournament and thanks to Colin Smith for the next awesome tournament. <3

Ryka
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom254 Posts
September 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#1445
On September 11 2011 01:50 Xanwi wrote:
All the Tyler hate is disgusting. =(


More disappointment than hate really. He's a cool guy but seems to choke a lot and go out early on a regular basis recently.
Klaas
Profile Joined April 2011
Slovenia86 Posts
September 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#1446
On September 11 2011 01:45 red4ce wrote:
This is what happens when fan favorites are invited rather than elite players. We get a bunch of 1 sided series. You can talk about how they bring in viewers but did anyone actually enjoy seeing Tyler and Destiny getting swept 3-0? Same thing is going to happen to TLO in the next round too.


Well it's better than having the same players play in every tournament, besides I don't see who else to invite from NA, most of EU best players played already as well.
Intricacy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States218 Posts
September 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#1447
You know what sucks? When you help organize a tournament to help showcase players who may not always be given a fair shake in this industry and all of the haters come out of the woodwork. Even if you watched each player for 20hrs a day could you honestly know how mentally prepared they are or aren't for events like these. Please put yourselves in their shoes. If they weren't up to the challenge, they wouldn't have accepted the invite.

We're trying to do a positive thing here in bringing more exposure to eSports. If you're not onboard with that, then I'm afraid that this tournament series is not for you. No one is forcing you to watch.
Axiom Founder | SHOUTcraft America Organizer | RIP TB 1984-2018
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
September 10 2011 16:57 GMT
#1448
On September 11 2011 01:52 Talin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 01:50 Xanwi wrote:
All the Tyler hate is disgusting. =(


I can only hope he won't be reading this thread.

It's quite disgusting, yeah.

I'm sorry but what?

I don't think its fair to expect special treatment for certain players and then call people "haters" when they point out obvious flaws in their game. Tyler just didn't play good, and any lesser known player would have gotten a ton more flaming for those games.
eltese
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden369 Posts
September 10 2011 16:57 GMT
#1449
Dont get the hate. Its a fun event. If it pisses you off , dont watch it.

3-0's are common and losing to DDE (who is good, especially TvP) and TLO (who is good, especially at StarcraftvStarcraft) is not a shame. Why can't we talk about the winners in a positive way for once? Without race flaming, nick flaming or showing off our new polished caps lock keys


GG WP. Im stooooooooooked about the next round
oYsteR
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom142 Posts
September 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#1450
On September 11 2011 01:53 TotalBiscuit wrote:
A lot of people with short memories.

SCI1 had as many 3-0s in the RO8 as SCI3. Nobody complained about "popular invites" then. 3-0s happen, it's unfortunate, we don't like it either, but it happens.

Too much negativity for what's supposed to be a fun event, some people just want everything to be miserable.


Hey TB, thanks for the event, only caught the end but loved the commentating (unlucky with the results, but what can you do). Hope you don't get too bogged down in worrying about negativity though.

Cheeky question: any idea when vods will be uploaded?

Thanks again.
Corrik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1416 Posts
September 10 2011 16:58 GMT
#1451
On September 11 2011 01:54 Intricacy wrote:
You know what sucks? When you help organize a tournament to help showcase players who may not always be given a fair shake in this industry and all of the haters come out of the woodwork. Even if you watched each player for 20hrs a day could you honestly know how mentally prepared they are or aren't for events like these. Please put yourselves in their shoes. If they weren't up to the challenge, they wouldn't have accepted the invite.

We're trying to do a positive thing here in bringing more exposure to eSports. If you're not onboard with that, then I'm afraid that this tournament series is not for you. No one is forcing you to watch.


There will be haters no matter what. Just need to ignore them. Thanks for putting the time in though.
herve
Profile Joined January 2010
152 Posts
September 10 2011 16:59 GMT
#1452
Great casting as usual by TB/Apollo, looking forward to tomorrow (gogo whitera~)
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
September 10 2011 17:00 GMT
#1453
Eh some players just have a lot more expectations riding on them than others. Whenever Idra loses a round everyone acts like the world is ending. Dimaga, Destiny, Strelok all got smoked too but people will give them a lot more leeway. It's unfair to the player but its also the price they pay for popularity.
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
September 10 2011 17:00 GMT
#1454
On September 11 2011 01:54 Intricacy wrote:
You know what sucks? When you help organize a tournament to help showcase players who may not always be given a fair shake in this industry and all of the haters come out of the woodwork. Even if you watched each player for 20hrs a day could you honestly know how mentally prepared they are or aren't for events like these. Please put yourselves in their shoes. If they weren't up to the challenge, they wouldn't have accepted the invite.

We're trying to do a positive thing here in bringing more exposure to eSports. If you're not onboard with that, then I'm afraid that this tournament series is not for you. No one is forcing you to watch.


But this is the internet....people have to complain about something or else their lives are meaningless...

Frankly I thought the Strelok White-Ra series was quite good, especially the first 2 games, and I'm sure there will be more great play as the tourney progresses, I don't understand how people can consistently shit on players that will continue to get shit on unless they finally break their streaks...how do you expect them to do that other than to have opportunities like these.

Don't understand troll logic, probably because their isn't any.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Ownos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2147 Posts
September 10 2011 17:01 GMT
#1455
On September 11 2011 01:50 Xanwi wrote:
All the Tyler hate is disgusting. =(


Because we expect a player to lose or are not as good as another we're haters now?
...deeper and deeper into the bowels of El Diablo
Da3mon
Profile Joined November 2010
Hungary20 Posts
September 10 2011 17:01 GMT
#1456
Great tournament so far, grats to the winners and Team Biscuit for day1.
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
September 10 2011 17:03 GMT
#1457
Really sad to see Tyler lose as usual. I await secret training and a full comeback using the id Nony.

Thanks for the event was a nice watch!
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
September 10 2011 17:04 GMT
#1458
Some People just have to complain.

There are different reasons why people complain. For some people, complaining comes forth out of a true sense of unhappiness. They are unhappy about themselves or about their lives and they express this by complaining to others about their bad fortune. When people are that unhappy it does not really matter what happens in their lives, because they will always find something to complain about. They need to complain, because for them it is a way of coping with their unhappiness that they have learned is effective.

This is different to the every day complaining most people do. We all complain sometimes, about little things that happen to us, like being stuck in a traffic jam or being turned down for a job. However, because most of us are not truly unhappy we do not have the need to complain all the time. When no bad events take place in our lives, we simply cease to complain. This is not the case with so-called compulsive complainers.

People do not only complain incessantly because they are unhappy, for some complainers it is more of a bad habit that they have picked up. These are the kind of people who either just need to complain for no good reason, or they are so used to complaining all the time that they do not even notice that they are doing it. You can recognize them by their casual way of complaining. They might walk into your house and mention that traffic was a nightmare, the weather sucks, they are not feeling too well and that something in your house smells funny.

A final reason why some people complain a lot is because it makes them feel better. These people are not necessarily unhappy people, but by complaining about every little thing that bothers them, they actually feel better. In other words, they burden other people with all their problems and worries, making those people feel bad, while they in turn end up feeling great. There is nothing wrong with complaining, we all need to do it now and again, but the trick is to not over do it. The last thing you want is to end up being known as one of those people who complains about everything.


Complaining also makes some people feel important. If you are complaining to someone, you have their attention. They would rather be doing something else or anything else than listen to a complaint. By getting someone to listen to you, it makes you feel like what you have to say is important. You are not being ignored.


So stop it, nobody really cares, you just annoy other people.

Its a fantastic tournament. And its absolutely free. So you have no right to ***** around. Create your own tournament, and invite who ever you want.

BTT:

Great event. Great entertainment. TLO and White-Ra won their games. YEEEHHHHAAA
see you all tomorrow
Thorakh
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands1788 Posts
September 10 2011 17:04 GMT
#1459
On September 11 2011 01:54 Intricacy wrote:
You know what sucks? When you help organize a tournament to help showcase players who may not always be given a fair shake in this industry and all of the haters come out of the woodwork. Even if you watched each player for 20hrs a day could you honestly know how mentally prepared they are or aren't for events like these. Please put yourselves in their shoes. If they weren't up to the challenge, they wouldn't have accepted the invite.

We're trying to do a positive thing here in bringing more exposure to eSports. If you're not onboard with that, then I'm afraid that this tournament series is not for you. No one is forcing you to watch.
^^

Great tournament so far, excited for tomorrow, hope White-Ra takes it all!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
September 10 2011 17:04 GMT
#1460
On September 11 2011 01:57 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2011 01:52 Talin wrote:
On September 11 2011 01:50 Xanwi wrote:
All the Tyler hate is disgusting. =(


I can only hope he won't be reading this thread.

It's quite disgusting, yeah.

I'm sorry but what?

I don't think its fair to expect special treatment for certain players and then call people "haters" when they point out obvious flaws in their game. Tyler just didn't play good, and any lesser known player would have gotten a ton more flaming for those games.


1. You're absolutely wrong. Some players will ALWAYS get special treatment - Boxer is one such player (obviously). Tyler for the foreign community is another such player. Everyone will get special treatment when they accomplish as much on the highest level as Tyler has (relative to the foreigner scene) and is a legendary community member as he is.

2. I'm not sure as to what's the point of you bringing up his "flaws" in his game. Do you think that nobody else can see them, so you have to explain it to everyone? Or is it that you just want to substantiate your point of how he should never be invited for anything because you don't find his current playing ability satisfactory? Is it because it's satisfactory and gives you a feeling of superiority to be able to criticize someone's play?

Help me out here, because none of those seem like very good reasons to me.
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