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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9781
On August 28 2011 11:34 Templarama wrote:
Guys, who the hell is ORLY and how is he beating so many good players????

If he is who I think he´s SK Europes wow-teams priest who I know played SC2 short after release but hasnt shown himself since then. I hope it´s him, would be awesome.
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9782
DeMuslim has reeled off three straight wins, and now leads KawaiiRice 3-2 in their CLR1 extended series. #MLG

nice
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:37:35
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9783
I hope haypro beats tyler with only zerglings again.

that was so funny at anaheim. 6-gate + archon +2 attack, and haypro has something like 75 zerglings waiting for him. not even infestors or baneling drops.
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9784
What song is playing atm?
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9785
Anyone else predicting an IdrA vs Huk match?
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9786
On August 28 2011 11:29 JoeSchmoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:26 illsick wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:19 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:16 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:
[quote]

You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player


self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone

dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does.

MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma.

I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken.

Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that.


Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective


lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly

Plz inform MC/Alicia etc.

Actually no, you're just wrong. You stall that long and you'll be dealing with a gigantic marine ball with no aoe. That's impossible to do.


ok well every terran should just 1-1-1 and have a 100% winrate in tvp if theres no way of defending it.. LOL wtf are u trying to get at?


well to be fair, the past month or so, when the koreans have been doing this 1base 1-1-1 timing... it has been 100% (can't recall it being held). They do it on favorable maps like XNC.


not 100% hongun beat ganzi with a vr all-in on meta


I missed the game but...

I'm guessing hongun attacked ganzi before the 1-1-1 timing? but even then, that would mean an all-in is best before the terran does it :/
you live and you learn
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9787
wow demuslim is now 3-2 against kawairice
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9788
On August 28 2011 11:35 ZeromuS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:33 Grettin wrote:
Drewbie wins 2-0 over Hwangsin in CLR1

Surprise tbh. Hwangsing has been playing REALLY well so far.


Sad a protoss lost but Im happy a foreigner won Unless drewbie rode the FOTM train. In which case im frustrated at the current state of protoss openings and decision making while my previous feelings continue to apply.


Drewbie actually doesn't like the 1-1-1 build, I don't think he uses it at all.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9789
On August 28 2011 11:36 Slakter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:34 Templarama wrote:
Guys, who the hell is ORLY and how is he beating so many good players????

If he is who I think he´s SK Europes wow-teams priest who I know played SC2 short after release but hasnt shown himself since then. I hope it´s him, would be awesome.


That exact dood.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9790
On August 28 2011 11:35 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:35 rolfe wrote:
drewbie beating hwangsin huh, is everyone as surprised as i am or have i seriously misjudged their skill level?


Drewbie is ridiculously and I MEAN RIDICULOUSLY underrated.

They are both average players. Not sure why it would be a suprise regardless of who won.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:37:53
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9791
On August 28 2011 11:34 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:32 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:31 iamke55 wrote:
Idra's bias is hilarious

before EG: "huk is a retard who wouldn't be a progamer if he didn't play protoss"

after EG: "really good player"

LOL you expect teammates to shit all over each others in interviews in front of 10s of thousands of watchers? If you arent biased towards your own TEAM you probably arent a great teammate.

Lol every Idra fan always praises his honesty and shit it's just funny to see their silly delusions shattered. He isn't a douche because he's just being honest, he's just a douche.

lol what? You arent even making sense. What delusions? What's getting shattered? He says someone's shit months ago and all of a sudden after playing with that person they can't change their mind. TL logic for you. Face it, when Idra says something rational you twist it to be some huge drama filled comment because that's all you want to hear from him. His comments were compeltely ordinary.
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9792
On August 28 2011 11:35 Alpino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:35 rolfe wrote:
drewbie beating hwangsin huh, is everyone as surprised as i am or have i seriously misjudged their skill level?


Drewbie is ridiculously and I MEAN RIDICULOUSLY underrated.

my opinion of him is that hes mediocre, which i still think is valid.
Weasel-
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada1556 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9793
On August 28 2011 11:35 ZaxbyCof wrote:
If Incontrol is in pool play next MLG... im gonna lose it.

The only way he makes it into pool play for next MLG is if he makes some serious noise in the bracket here and makes a good finish in this tournament, which seems pretty justified to me.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9794
WOW. I really hope Demuslim wins after pulling three straight wins on KR
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9795
On August 28 2011 11:35 Juanald wrote:
i was so excited when i saw Drewbie is still in the tourney then i saw who he has to play to fight his way back to the finals on the bright side if theres ever a chance to prove urself to the haters now is that time. Drewbie whaiting

Really happy for drewbie too, I felt really bad for him last MLG against WhiteRa getting stomped and not a ton of love (of course compared to whitera though). I think he can easily get to at least Rain with the players he'll be facing.
the farm ends here
Xxavi
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1248 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9796
On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:01 Femari wrote:
Puma just lost any respect I had for him.

Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build


You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player


self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone

dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does.

MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma.

I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken.

Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that.


Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective


lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly


Something tells me, this is exactly what Kiwi thought. You are teammates, may be you know about it?

He thought he could hold it, and 35% winrate for Protoss vs Terran in Korea has no meaning to him. But little did he know, Korean terrans execute 1-1-1 pretty well.

I am not gonna make "but MC and Alicia cannot hold it, how can you?" argument, I just only want to see somebody do this magic hold that you talk about. It has been pathetic so far. Threads full of people saying it can be held off, but what we are watching is very different.
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9797
On August 28 2011 11:36 Squirrel_x360a wrote:
MLGSC2Scores Major League Gaming
DeMuslim has reeled off three straight wins, and now leads KawaiiRice 3-2 in their CLR1 extended series. #MLG

Come on Ben!!


I really like Demuslim, hope he can take it!!
crack
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9798
On August 28 2011 11:35 Rykros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:33 hysterial wrote:
Idra's rage and skill are directly proportional. The more chill he is sounding, the worse he is playing.




actually I feel its the opposite

Idra when calm is the best of the best

He falls apart when he gets mad/frustrated
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9799
On August 28 2011 11:35 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:34 Daniel C wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:32 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:29 Icekommander wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:28 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:25 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:23 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:22 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:21 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:20 Ghostfoot wrote:
[quote]

How do you make more fans when you use the same debate-ably OP every TvP? I know that hasn't been his best match-up but hell, that's like saying do you want to just all-in your way to the top? If Mvp abused that build, I would honestly stop watching him so much.

You'd be a fan of watching someone not trying as hard to win I guess.


Or you'd be a fan of someone confident enough in their macro skills that they know they'll win either way, so they do it in the way that doesn't require a drop in fanbase and in interest.

No, you're being crazy now. You might as well ban all cheese. It isnt going to happen and players that never use it even once in a while are one dimensional and usually subpar.


I'm not saying I don't agree with the cheese, I think you have to utilize the 1/1/1, but saying it makes no sense to lose respect for a player who does it is a bit off. I actually like seeing the 1/1/1 for entertainment purposes, that last game was one of the most entertaining so far, but seeing a macro game shows a full range of the players abilities.

It isn't even cheese. Cheese is defendable when scouted. 1/1/1 isnt.



If your telling me that Kiwikaki played that perfectly, I'd have to call you sadly biased.

Well no, but it doesn't matter if he had, he still would've lost, just by a less convincing margin. If players would ever even lose *closely* it would be a little less demoralizing, but it's always a complete roflstomp.

Shouldn't have to play perfect to hold a 1base allin anyway.


How do you know?

The huge margin between the result and actually holding it. There is no even theoretical (Automaton 2000 type stuff) that could have won it for Kiwi.


That's your prediction only, isn't it?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
Plutonik
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada329 Posts
August 28 2011 02:37 GMT
#9800
ORLY is 21st in NA gm
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