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The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
Juanald
Profile Joined February 2011
United States354 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9761
i was so excited when i saw Drewbie is still in the tourney then i saw who he has to play to fight his way back to the finals on the bright side if theres ever a chance to prove urself to the haters now is that time. Drewbie whaiting
"hey it could happen!" ~ angels n the outfield
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13414 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:35:57
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9762
On August 28 2011 11:33 Grettin wrote:
Drewbie wins 2-0 over Hwangsin in CLR1

Surprise tbh. Hwangsing has been playing REALLY well so far.


Sad a protoss lost but Im happy a foreigner won Unless drewbie rode the FOTM train. In which case im frustrated at the current state of protoss openings and decision making while my previous feelings continue to apply.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Coolhwip
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden1381 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9763
Championship rounds, time for hayder to shine as he always does!
crack
Rykros
Profile Joined May 2011
483 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9764
On August 28 2011 11:33 hysterial wrote:
Idra's rage and skill are directly proportional. The more chill he is sounding, the worse he is playing.


oh God cmon hater
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9765
On August 28 2011 11:34 Daniel C wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:32 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:29 Icekommander wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:28 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:25 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:23 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:22 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:21 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:20 Ghostfoot wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:14 Serpico wrote:
[quote]
He has a moronic fanbase if they DONT want him to use the best builds possible.


How do you make more fans when you use the same debate-ably OP every TvP? I know that hasn't been his best match-up but hell, that's like saying do you want to just all-in your way to the top? If Mvp abused that build, I would honestly stop watching him so much.

You'd be a fan of watching someone not trying as hard to win I guess.


Or you'd be a fan of someone confident enough in their macro skills that they know they'll win either way, so they do it in the way that doesn't require a drop in fanbase and in interest.

No, you're being crazy now. You might as well ban all cheese. It isnt going to happen and players that never use it even once in a while are one dimensional and usually subpar.


I'm not saying I don't agree with the cheese, I think you have to utilize the 1/1/1, but saying it makes no sense to lose respect for a player who does it is a bit off. I actually like seeing the 1/1/1 for entertainment purposes, that last game was one of the most entertaining so far, but seeing a macro game shows a full range of the players abilities.

It isn't even cheese. Cheese is defendable when scouted. 1/1/1 isnt.



If your telling me that Kiwikaki played that perfectly, I'd have to call you sadly biased.

Well no, but it doesn't matter if he had, he still would've lost, just by a less convincing margin. If players would ever even lose *closely* it would be a little less demoralizing, but it's always a complete roflstomp.

Shouldn't have to play perfect to hold a 1base allin anyway.


How do you know?

The huge margin between the result and actually holding it. There is no even theoretical (Automaton 2000 type stuff) that could have won it for Kiwi.
Mordiford
Profile Joined April 2011
4448 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9766
On August 28 2011 11:33 Grettin wrote:
Drewbie wins 2-0 over Hwangsin in CLR1

Surprise tbh. Hwangsing has been playing REALLY well so far.


So has Drewbie, he probably would have made it to the Pools if he didn't get stuck against Puma in the open bracket final.

I'd expect him to take out inControl as well.
Horse...falcon
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1851 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9767
Drewbie vs Incontrol, a year ago that would have been an important match =/

User was warned for this post
Artosis: "From horsssse....falcon"
noooob
Profile Joined September 2010
United States12 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9768
On August 28 2011 11:31 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:28 noooob wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:24 Yaotzin wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:21 noooob wrote:
Day9 opened the income tab breifly right before the kiwi/ puma engage. Puma had roughly 400 minerals per minute income and kiwi was up at the standard 800 for 1 base. No reason not to delay longer, i don't care how good marine dps is if you have that big of an income lead for long enough your army will get incrementally bigger than his.

It doesn't matter how much your army gets bigger because you'll just be making more zealots for his marines to chew through. They won't ever actually do anything to his marines. You HAVE to have aoe to stop a huge marine ball, and if you stall he'll end up with a huge one and you'll have no aoe.


The marines were un-upgraded and had no stim (and no upgrades for them were anywhere in sight) . Gateway units (including zealots) are a great counter to un-upgraded marines. To simply say that he will chew through them is incorrect.


Not in small numbers no and not with scvs blocking the path. There is a reason why scvs are being brought in as well. I'm beginning to think that if people have not watch the at least last 10 games where 1/1/1 were being executed in casted games, they should not discuss the issue. Otherwise, we keep having the same old repeated arguments every thread. And everyone has to explain again why so and so strat did not work.


So you mean to say that "In small numbers" gateway units do not beat un-upgraded marines? That is completely wrong! Yes i agree there are scvs in front, but buying time is what makes those scvs less and less valuable as combat units, which is what he should have done.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9769
On August 28 2011 11:34 thoradycus wrote:
nada got 3rd in his group. is he still in or out?

Everyone in pool play is "in", they just need to fight their way back up if they want to win the whole thing.
MC: "Sentry Forcefield Forcefield Marauder... cage Marauder die die"
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9770
On August 28 2011 11:35 rolfe wrote:
drewbie beating hwangsin huh, is everyone as surprised as i am or have i seriously misjudged their skill level?


Drewbie is ridiculously and I MEAN RIDICULOUSLY underrated.
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
thewax
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria365 Posts
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9771
you can say what you want about idra, but his interviews are always very professional
sekritzzz
Profile Joined December 2010
1515 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-28 02:36:41
August 28 2011 02:35 GMT
#9772
On August 28 2011 11:29 Icekommander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:28 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:25 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:23 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:22 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:21 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:20 Ghostfoot wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:14 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:14 Ghostfoot wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:08 Inflicted_ wrote:
[quote]

IMMVP doesn't condone the usage of 1-1-1 all-in because he sees it as OP too. Is he an idiot?


No, he just doesn't want to lose his fanbase.

He has a moronic fanbase if they DONT want him to use the best builds possible.


How do you make more fans when you use the same debate-ably OP every TvP? I know that hasn't been his best match-up but hell, that's like saying do you want to just all-in your way to the top? If Mvp abused that build, I would honestly stop watching him so much.

You'd be a fan of watching someone not trying as hard to win I guess.


Or you'd be a fan of someone confident enough in their macro skills that they know they'll win either way, so they do it in the way that doesn't require a drop in fanbase and in interest.

No, you're being crazy now. You might as well ban all cheese. It isnt going to happen and players that never use it even once in a while are one dimensional and usually subpar.


I'm not saying I don't agree with the cheese, I think you have to utilize the 1/1/1, but saying it makes no sense to lose respect for a player who does it is a bit off. I actually like seeing the 1/1/1 for entertainment purposes, that last game was one of the most entertaining so far, but seeing a macro game shows a full range of the players abilities.

It isn't even cheese. Cheese is defendable when scouted. 1/1/1 isnt.



If your telling me that Kiwikaki played that perfectly, I'd have to call you sadly biased.


You don't get it do you?

-Terran gets more minerals/minute. Known fact due to mules
- All terran units are more efficient than what the protoss unit can make.


What happens when you have more money and more cost-efficient units? You will always win if the players are of equal caliber hence why Koreans know there is a huge imbalance. You can't tech up to collusus btw, because if you do he will have enough time to contain you in your base with bunkers and tanks. There is simply no way you are coming down the ramp victorious.
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9773
http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2011_MLG_Pro_Circuit/Raleigh#Format here is the championship bracket for those who couldn't find one
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
Minored
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil88 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9774
why not cast TLO v Kawwiarice ?
go ahead, make my day.
Squirrel_x360a
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia305 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9775
MLGSC2Scores Major League Gaming
DeMuslim has reeled off three straight wins, and now leads KawaiiRice 3-2 in their CLR1 extended series. #MLG

Come on Ben!!
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9776
fuck yeah tyler vs haypro.
im hoping for not another bad 4 gate game like last time
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9777
Cmon Tyler u can do it...liquid teamkills suck tho.

And Demuslim has won three games in a row vs KR, wat a boss
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9778
GOGO BEN!!!!
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Juanald
Profile Joined February 2011
United States354 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9779
On August 28 2011 11:35 Horse...falcon wrote:
Drewbie vs Incontrol, a year ago that would have been an important match =/

Its still an important match troll.. if you dont have anything nice to say dont say it at all this thread isnt to bash players.
"hey it could happen!" ~ angels n the outfield
iyoume
Profile Joined May 2011
2501 Posts
August 28 2011 02:36 GMT
#9780
want watch demuslim - kawaiirice
BeSt <3 | HoeJJa | Leta :: team Polt
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