• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:30
CET 11:30
KST 19:30
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10
Community News
RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket13Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge2[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation14Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA16
StarCraft 2
General
SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA Weekly Cups (Nov 10-16): Reynor, Solar lead Zerg surge RSL Season 3: RO16 results & RO8 bracket RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t
Tourneys
RSL Revival: Season 3 $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 501 Price of Progress Mutation # 500 Fright night Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death
Brood War
General
soO on: FanTaSy's Potential Return to StarCraft What happened to TvZ on Retro? Data analysis on 70 million replays 2v2 maps which are SC2 style with teams together? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group B - Sun 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO16 Tie Breaker - Group A - Sat 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta Game Theory for Starcraft How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Clair Obscur - Expedition 33 Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine About SC2SEA.COM
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Health Impact of Joining…
TrAiDoS
Dyadica Evangelium — Chapt…
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2152 users

MLG Raleigh Day 2 RED Live Report Thread - Page 487

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 485 486 487 488 489 543 Next
The following is a list of behaviors that will get immediate bans:

1. Whining about stream
2. Bashing other games
3. Flaming other users
4. Bashing players
5. Complaining about imbalance

Basically just be respectful. Aside from that, enjoy the games, make sure you bring an umbrella and have some delicious waffles! (#)
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 28 2011 02:33 GMT
#9721
On August 28 2011 11:31 TT1 wrote:
idra is starting to become charasmatic, me no likey


it's those PR skills bro o;
hysterial
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2044 Posts
August 28 2011 02:33 GMT
#9722
Idra's rage and skill are directly proportional. The more chill he is sounding, the worse he is playing.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
August 28 2011 02:33 GMT
#9723
On August 28 2011 11:32 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:31 iamke55 wrote:
Idra's bias is hilarious

before EG: "huk is a retard who wouldn't be a progamer if he didn't play protoss"

after EG: "really good player"


Sad but so true. :/

He's so " meh whatever" about his losses too.
I mean, ask any other player about the Noblesse serie, they would not anwser like it was nothing. -_-

He acknowledged he played sloppy, he didn't really justify Shattered though...and then he knew he messed up holding the bunker rush. It was nothing exceptional from either player really.
the farm ends here
darkest44
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1009 Posts
August 28 2011 02:33 GMT
#9724
On August 28 2011 11:32 mordk wrote:
TL teamkills are way too common


Happens when you send every one of your players to every mlg >,>
Daniel C
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong1606 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9725
On August 28 2011 11:32 Yaotzin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:29 Icekommander wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:28 sekritzzz wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:25 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:23 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:22 Worldatlarge wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:21 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:20 Ghostfoot wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:14 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:14 Ghostfoot wrote:
[quote]

No, he just doesn't want to lose his fanbase.

He has a moronic fanbase if they DONT want him to use the best builds possible.


How do you make more fans when you use the same debate-ably OP every TvP? I know that hasn't been his best match-up but hell, that's like saying do you want to just all-in your way to the top? If Mvp abused that build, I would honestly stop watching him so much.

You'd be a fan of watching someone not trying as hard to win I guess.


Or you'd be a fan of someone confident enough in their macro skills that they know they'll win either way, so they do it in the way that doesn't require a drop in fanbase and in interest.

No, you're being crazy now. You might as well ban all cheese. It isnt going to happen and players that never use it even once in a while are one dimensional and usually subpar.


I'm not saying I don't agree with the cheese, I think you have to utilize the 1/1/1, but saying it makes no sense to lose respect for a player who does it is a bit off. I actually like seeing the 1/1/1 for entertainment purposes, that last game was one of the most entertaining so far, but seeing a macro game shows a full range of the players abilities.

It isn't even cheese. Cheese is defendable when scouted. 1/1/1 isnt.



If your telling me that Kiwikaki played that perfectly, I'd have to call you sadly biased.

Well no, but it doesn't matter if he had, he still would've lost, just by a less convincing margin. If players would ever even lose *closely* it would be a little less demoralizing, but it's always a complete roflstomp.

Shouldn't have to play perfect to hold a 1base allin anyway.


How do you know?
In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they are not.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9726
On August 28 2011 11:32 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:31 iamke55 wrote:
Idra's bias is hilarious

before EG: "huk is a retard who wouldn't be a progamer if he didn't play protoss"

after EG: "really good player"


Well to be fair the first quote was from like half a year ago. Recently (before huk went to EG) he has acknowledged his improvement and now that they are teammates i'm sure he has gotten to know him a little more


actually in a fairly recent ITG he called Huk trash again -.-
Kamikazess
Profile Joined February 2011
Brazil400 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9727
Another team kill. =/
At least it's a PvZ =)
What we do in life, echoes in eternity.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9728
On August 28 2011 11:32 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:31 iamke55 wrote:
Idra's bias is hilarious

before EG: "huk is a retard who wouldn't be a progamer if he didn't play protoss"

after EG: "really good player"

LOL you expect teammates to shit all over each others in interviews in front of 10s of thousands of watchers? If you arent biased towards your own TEAM you probably arent a great teammate.

Lol every Idra fan always praises his honesty and shit it's just funny to see their silly delusions shattered. He isn't a douche because he's just being honest, he's just a douche.
Templarama
Profile Joined August 2011
43 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9729
Guys, who the hell is ORLY and how is he beating so many good players????
Omnipresent
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States871 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9730
On August 28 2011 11:32 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:31 iamke55 wrote:
Idra's bias is hilarious

before EG: "huk is a retard who wouldn't be a progamer if he didn't play protoss"

after EG: "really good player"

Those can both still be true based on IdrA's mentality

He had also stopped blatantly calling Huk "bad" for a while before the trade, but that may have been in anticipation of the announcement.

I think the facial hair question was the most important part. The people want to know, and Day[9] delivers.
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17718 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9731
On August 28 2011 11:33 Mordiford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:24 tdt wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:16 Vadrigar wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:13 TT1 wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:10 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:09 Serpico wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:07 Femari wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:04 Otori wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 mordk wrote:
On August 28 2011 11:02 Yaki wrote:
[quote]
Stop you can't blame him for using a strong build


You can, MVP has self respect so he refuses to use 1-1-1, there's a real player


self respect refusing to use a specific build? that's just retarded, thats like saying its self respect to not 6pool someone

dont think MVP can pull off 1-1-1 builds as perfectly as puma does.

MVP would more than likely pull it off better than Puma.

I dislike the 1/1/1. It's broken. I don't abuse it when I play. I play straight up. I could use it and do extremely well but what's the point? It's like cheating to get infinite items in a game. It's boring. It's stupid. And it's broken.

Lol you complain too much, Kiwi needed to stall for time and he didnt do that.


Stalling is not the answer, because as you stall, terran gains an eco lead and makes more marines, which makes immortals and phoenixes ineffective


lol wat, how does terran get an eco lead? u have guardian shield + mass zeal immortal, ur immortals tank the 1st few tank shots while ur zealots get close to the marines, ur phoenix is are taking the banshees out and once theres no banshee threat u lift the tanks leaving the marines exposed, the more kiwi stalled the more time he would have had to get more immortals + phoenixs out cus of chrono boost while pumping 4 zeals at a time.. its extremely defendable if u execute everything perfectly


There you have it. No one here can argue with TT1. Kiwi chose the map because he wanted to defend the 1-1-1. His execution failed though. That's all.



Have to add KiWi to the "more balls than brains" category with MC choosing something you have 10% chance against.


Kiwikaki is actually a very smart player, he probably chose that map knowing that Puma would 111 and had everything set up to defend it, it's just that it's a very very very fragile situation and your decision making and micro has to be exceptional. Kiwikaki got anxious and engaged poorly and early.

No one said he isn't smart, just that with as much brains as he has he has EVEN more balls.
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9732
On August 28 2011 11:33 Grettin wrote:
Drewbie wins 2-0 over Hwangsin in CLR1

Surprise tbh. Hwangsing has been playing REALLY well so far.

Has Drewbie gone to Korea yet or is he just playing on the Korean server right now?
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Yaki
Profile Joined April 2011
France4234 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9733
On August 28 2011 11:33 Grettin wrote:
Drewbie wins 2-0 over Hwangsin in CLR1

Surprise tbh. Hwangsing has been playing REALLY well so far.

So has been Drewbie
MC ■ MarineKing ■ LosirA ■ To someone who has lost after trying his best, no words from the winner can console him.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9734
On August 28 2011 11:33 Grettin wrote:
Drewbie wins 2-0 over Hwangsin in CLR1

Surprise tbh. Hwangsing has been playing REALLY well so far.


Nice by Drewbie
Condor Hero
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States2931 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9735
On August 28 2011 11:32 Karthane wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:31 iamke55 wrote:
Idra's bias is hilarious

before EG: "huk is a retard who wouldn't be a progamer if he didn't play protoss"

after EG: "really good player"


Well to be fair the first quote was from like half a year ago. Recently (before huk went to EG) he has acknowledged his improvement and now that they are teammates i'm sure he has gotten to know him a little more

this is kinda false.
even after huk won dreamhack and hsc, idra was asked on inside the game what he thought of huk and he just said his opinion hasnt changed at all and huk was really abusive.
it was only recently (persumably before huk's transfer was made public but after the fact) that he said huk was good.

to be fair though idra thinks EVERY protoss/terran is really abusive.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9736
On August 28 2011 11:31 TT1 wrote:
idra is starting to become charasmatic, me no likey


Yeah Interview like that really surprised me. He lost in the most infuriating ways, which admittedly was his fault at times. Though odd that he seemed at ease.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
Yaotzin
Profile Joined August 2010
South Africa4280 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9737
On August 28 2011 11:32 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 28 2011 11:29 Kamikazess wrote:
Idra talked shit about Noblesse, after the MVP vs F. United GSTL game. Shouldn't do that.


No he didn't. He said that MVP didn't send out their best players and that's true. He doesn't even know who Noblesse is.

If you're a progamer who intends to win anything - as presumably IdrA does - you should learn about players in a competition who are better than you, as Noblesse is better than IdrA.
poisui
Profile Joined July 2011
1088 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9738
Idra cracks me up in a good way. I used to "hate" him in SC1, but now, I sort of like him. I would even go as far as saying that I'm a fan of his.

The only problem I have with him is that he often gives up on a game too fast. I'm really disappointed when I see him do that.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9739
Comeon Tyler, you have the ability to beat HayprO!
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
August 28 2011 02:34 GMT
#9740
Wow Congratz to Tyler, just find out
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
Prev 1 485 486 487 488 489 543 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
09:00
OSC Elite Rising Star #17
CranKy Ducklings95
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 166
ProTech125
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4775
Rain 3412
actioN 2611
Hyuk 2331
GuemChi 1239
Shuttle 731
Larva 554
firebathero 524
Soulkey 425
BeSt 392
[ Show more ]
Stork 332
Soma 272
Hyun 216
Killer 185
JYJ171
Pusan 152
Yoon 137
Leta 129
Rush 115
Light 106
FanTaSy 78
Sharp 61
Free 52
ZerO 45
zelot 31
Terrorterran 24
Aegong 24
Noble 17
SilentControl 8
Hm[arnc] 6
Dota 2
XcaliburYe179
NeuroSwarm85
League of Legends
JimRising 552
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2129
shoxiejesuss574
allub153
Other Games
summit1g16676
ceh9652
Fuzer 211
Pyrionflax83
ZerO(Twitch)2
B2W.Neo1
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 5
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 24
• Adnapsc2 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 3
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV268
League of Legends
• Rush1424
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
1h 30m
Monday Night Weeklies
6h 30m
OSC
12h 30m
Wardi Open
1d 1h
Replay Cast
1d 22h
Wardi Open
2 days
OSC
2 days
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

SOOP Univ League 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
CSCL: Masked Kings S3
SLON Tour Season 2
META Madness #9
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2

Upcoming

BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.