• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:22
CET 12:22
KST 20:22
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4Weekly Cups (Dec 1-7): Clem doubles, Solar gets over the hump1Weekly Cups (Nov 24-30): MaxPax, Clem, herO win2
StarCraft 2
General
ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career ! Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced! What's the best tug of war? The Grack before Christmas Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Winter Warp Gate Amateur Showdown #1
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
What are former legends up to these days? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion How soO Began His ProGaming Dreams Klaucher discontinued / in-game color settings
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET [BSL21] WB & LB Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Has Anyone Tried Kamagra Chewable for ED? 12 Days of Starcraft The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced Where to ask questions and add stream?
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Thanks for the RSL
Hildegard
Saturation point
Uldridge
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1211 users

Destiny VS sixJaxMaj0r Showmatch - Page 4

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 Next All
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
August 24 2011 00:22 GMT
#61
major is like the king of spamming ghosts against protoss :D

he should have no problem with destiny
Sarang
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia2363 Posts
August 24 2011 00:23 GMT
#62
major will probably win 3-1, but I'm really cheering for destiny. i'd love it if he takes the win.

"Killer helped me feel better before coming to the arena. He told me to say that." - Bomber
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9408 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 00:26:11
August 24 2011 00:24 GMT
#63
On August 24 2011 05:17 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 05:08 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:43 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:40 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:06 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:02 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote:
Major is probably the best NA terran with Select, and he should know Destinys style pretty well by now.

Major to win 3-1.


Major is the best NA player. His macro and multittasking is not seen better by any other foreigner.

I don't think he has enough actual accomplishments to be considered above Huk and Idra.

But yeah, he's good.


Tournaments won =/ skills.
If you have a good understanding of the game you can look at how a player play and make a better judgement of the players skill level.

Whatever dude. You won't find many people agreeing with that notion, but I'm sure you have a better understanding of the game than all of them.


Learn to argue by using logic please.

Argue? With your logic I could say any random player, for example Drewbie, is the best on NA and reason it with arbitrary "understanding of the game".

No other progamer is calling Major the best player on NA, nor does he have any significant results to make a case for it. Your logic is "I think he's the best, so that makes him the best". How is that good arguing?
Show nested quote +
You could start by analysing majors weakness's compared to other NA players you find better, and argue why major isn't the best. If you cant do that, dont bother trying to argue who is better than major.

When someone is claiming that a relatively underperforming player is better than his peers at the game, the burden of proof lies on the person making that controversial claim.

So go ahead, tell us what exactly makes Major better than these players he keeps losing to.


Lol you obv. have no idea what your talking about. Who does major keeps losing to?
Looks like: A) you have barely watched him play. B) You have no idea what tournaments he has entered. And btw he just won a 10k$ tournaments, which you prob have not noticed.

I gave you a relatively simple questions. Try to argue why player x is better than major. But obv. you can't, since you need other progamers to tell you who the best players are. Thats fine dude, but then you should not participate in discussions like this.
Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 04:34:56
August 24 2011 01:01 GMT
#64
edited


Can't wait for this, not sure who to root for.
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 24 2011 01:07 GMT
#65
On August 24 2011 09:24 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 05:17 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:08 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:43 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:40 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:06 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:02 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote:
Major is probably the best NA terran with Select, and he should know Destinys style pretty well by now.

Major to win 3-1.


Major is the best NA player. His macro and multittasking is not seen better by any other foreigner.

I don't think he has enough actual accomplishments to be considered above Huk and Idra.

But yeah, he's good.


Tournaments won =/ skills.
If you have a good understanding of the game you can look at how a player play and make a better judgement of the players skill level.

Whatever dude. You won't find many people agreeing with that notion, but I'm sure you have a better understanding of the game than all of them.


Learn to argue by using logic please.

Argue? With your logic I could say any random player, for example Drewbie, is the best on NA and reason it with arbitrary "understanding of the game".

No other progamer is calling Major the best player on NA, nor does he have any significant results to make a case for it. Your logic is "I think he's the best, so that makes him the best". How is that good arguing?
You could start by analysing majors weakness's compared to other NA players you find better, and argue why major isn't the best. If you cant do that, dont bother trying to argue who is better than major.

When someone is claiming that a relatively underperforming player is better than his peers at the game, the burden of proof lies on the person making that controversial claim.

So go ahead, tell us what exactly makes Major better than these players he keeps losing to.


Lol you obv. have no idea what your talking about. Who does major keeps losing to?
Looks like: A) you have barely watched him play. B) You have no idea what tournaments he has entered. And btw he just won a 10k$ tournaments, which you prob have not noticed.

I gave you a relatively simple questions. Try to argue why player x is better than major. But obv. you can't, since you need other progamers to tell you who the best players are. Thats fine dude, but then you should not participate in discussions like this.

LA only tourney. His competetion was weak. Any other good NA player could enter if eligible and win just as easily (huk idra sheth etc) in MLG his placements are average at best. (You know, when theres good competition.)
Geophagus
Profile Joined April 2011
67 Posts
August 24 2011 01:10 GMT
#66
On August 24 2011 09:24 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 05:17 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:08 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:43 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:40 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:06 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:02 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote:
Major is probably the best NA terran with Select, and he should know Destinys style pretty well by now.

Major to win 3-1.


Major is the best NA player. His macro and multittasking is not seen better by any other foreigner.

I don't think he has enough actual accomplishments to be considered above Huk and Idra.

But yeah, he's good.


Tournaments won =/ skills.
If you have a good understanding of the game you can look at how a player play and make a better judgement of the players skill level.

Whatever dude. You won't find many people agreeing with that notion, but I'm sure you have a better understanding of the game than all of them.


Learn to argue by using logic please.

Argue? With your logic I could say any random player, for example Drewbie, is the best on NA and reason it with arbitrary "understanding of the game".

No other progamer is calling Major the best player on NA, nor does he have any significant results to make a case for it. Your logic is "I think he's the best, so that makes him the best". How is that good arguing?
You could start by analysing majors weakness's compared to other NA players you find better, and argue why major isn't the best. If you cant do that, dont bother trying to argue who is better than major.

When someone is claiming that a relatively underperforming player is better than his peers at the game, the burden of proof lies on the person making that controversial claim.

So go ahead, tell us what exactly makes Major better than these players he keeps losing to.


Lol you obv. have no idea what your talking about. Who does major keeps losing to?
Looks like: A) you have barely watched him play. B) You have no idea what tournaments he has entered. And btw he just won a 10k$ tournaments, which you prob have not noticed.

I gave you a relatively simple questions. Try to argue why player x is better than major. But obv. you can't, since you need other progamers to tell you who the best players are. Thats fine dude, but then you should not participate in discussions like this.


It seems to me that you are the one who does not understand logic.

All you have done is claim that he demonstrates great play in his games, yet where are the tournament results? He was the only good player in the LA invitational. When has he shown he can compete with top tier American or European players? At MLG he certainly hasn't.
Juvant
Profile Joined April 2011
United States723 Posts
August 24 2011 01:11 GMT
#67
I agree that Hider is incredibly arrogant, but he isn't far off calling Major the best NA player... I'd say only Idra is mechanically superior as far as North America goes. I think it's probably Idra > Huk > Select > Major in terms of skill. I think Major has yet to prove himself worthy of being in the same sentence as them though. But with time!
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
August 24 2011 01:13 GMT
#68
On August 24 2011 10:07 Jinivus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 09:24 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:17 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:08 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:43 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:40 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:06 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:02 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote:
Major is probably the best NA terran with Select, and he should know Destinys style pretty well by now.

Major to win 3-1.


Major is the best NA player. His macro and multittasking is not seen better by any other foreigner.

I don't think he has enough actual accomplishments to be considered above Huk and Idra.

But yeah, he's good.


Tournaments won =/ skills.
If you have a good understanding of the game you can look at how a player play and make a better judgement of the players skill level.

Whatever dude. You won't find many people agreeing with that notion, but I'm sure you have a better understanding of the game than all of them.


Learn to argue by using logic please.

Argue? With your logic I could say any random player, for example Drewbie, is the best on NA and reason it with arbitrary "understanding of the game".

No other progamer is calling Major the best player on NA, nor does he have any significant results to make a case for it. Your logic is "I think he's the best, so that makes him the best". How is that good arguing?
You could start by analysing majors weakness's compared to other NA players you find better, and argue why major isn't the best. If you cant do that, dont bother trying to argue who is better than major.

When someone is claiming that a relatively underperforming player is better than his peers at the game, the burden of proof lies on the person making that controversial claim.

So go ahead, tell us what exactly makes Major better than these players he keeps losing to.


Lol you obv. have no idea what your talking about. Who does major keeps losing to?
Looks like: A) you have barely watched him play. B) You have no idea what tournaments he has entered. And btw he just won a 10k$ tournaments, which you prob have not noticed.

I gave you a relatively simple questions. Try to argue why player x is better than major. But obv. you can't, since you need other progamers to tell you who the best players are. Thats fine dude, but then you should not participate in discussions like this.

LA only tourney. His competetion was weak. Any other good NA player could enter if eligible and win just as easily (huk idra sheth etc) in MLG his placements are average at best. (You know, when theres good competition.)


Thats the thing its hard to get out of the open bracket. Alicia couldnt get out. Does that mean hes any worse then the people in pool play? No. I would bet money that Major can take on more than half of the pool players ez.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Geophagus
Profile Joined April 2011
67 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 01:24:04
August 24 2011 01:20 GMT
#69
The open bracket is full of complete nobodies until the later rounds. He beats a slew of bad players and then loses when he runs into real competition.

I agree that he is one of the best players in NA, but it's ridiculous to claim that he is better than the likes of Huk, Idra, Sheth, Select, etc without any direct evidence.
eourcs
Profile Joined February 2011
United States459 Posts
August 24 2011 01:27 GMT
#70
On August 24 2011 10:13 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 10:07 Jinivus wrote:
On August 24 2011 09:24 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:17 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:08 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:43 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:40 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:06 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:02 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote:
Major is probably the best NA terran with Select, and he should know Destinys style pretty well by now.

Major to win 3-1.


Major is the best NA player. His macro and multittasking is not seen better by any other foreigner.

I don't think he has enough actual accomplishments to be considered above Huk and Idra.

But yeah, he's good.


Tournaments won =/ skills.
If you have a good understanding of the game you can look at how a player play and make a better judgement of the players skill level.

Whatever dude. You won't find many people agreeing with that notion, but I'm sure you have a better understanding of the game than all of them.


Learn to argue by using logic please.

Argue? With your logic I could say any random player, for example Drewbie, is the best on NA and reason it with arbitrary "understanding of the game".

No other progamer is calling Major the best player on NA, nor does he have any significant results to make a case for it. Your logic is "I think he's the best, so that makes him the best". How is that good arguing?
You could start by analysing majors weakness's compared to other NA players you find better, and argue why major isn't the best. If you cant do that, dont bother trying to argue who is better than major.

When someone is claiming that a relatively underperforming player is better than his peers at the game, the burden of proof lies on the person making that controversial claim.

So go ahead, tell us what exactly makes Major better than these players he keeps losing to.


Lol you obv. have no idea what your talking about. Who does major keeps losing to?
Looks like: A) you have barely watched him play. B) You have no idea what tournaments he has entered. And btw he just won a 10k$ tournaments, which you prob have not noticed.

I gave you a relatively simple questions. Try to argue why player x is better than major. But obv. you can't, since you need other progamers to tell you who the best players are. Thats fine dude, but then you should not participate in discussions like this.

LA only tourney. His competetion was weak. Any other good NA player could enter if eligible and win just as easily (huk idra sheth etc) in MLG his placements are average at best. (You know, when theres good competition.)


Thats the thing its hard to get out of the open bracket. Alicia couldnt get out. Does that mean hes any worse then the people in pool play? No. I would bet money that Major can take on more than half of the pool players ez.


Major has already gotten to championship bracket in MLG, he's proven he can compete, while Destiny loses to random NA semi-pros. (Darkcell, Edge, State). I like Destiny, but most of his results are either showmatches, random customs, and a tournament that nobody really cares about anymore. Major doesn't really participate in weekly cups, so of course he isn't going to have many "tournament wins". However, in the tourneys that actually matter, like MLG and Blizzcon qualifiers, he performs. Also, killer, catz, capoch, etc are still better than the people Destiny loses to in open bracket.
Masters Terran | Strelok after losing to Kas' BCs "FUUUUUCK" *Stream Offline* | "Fuck hellions. Fuck them in the ass" IdrA
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-24 05:24:40
August 24 2011 05:22 GMT
#71
On August 24 2011 08:53 radiantshadow92 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 08:39 Supamang wrote:
Major probably gonna win this, but im rooting for Destiny. Majors an angry, immature kid who may deserve respect as a gamer but sure as hell doesnt deserve respect as a person


for what? smurfing in a tourney? so evil lol

uh yea actually, and for how he responded to people trying to kick him out for smurfing in a tourney. who the hell calls a coordinator a fag because he caught you trying to cheat? I didnt say it was "evil", I said it was immature. and thats not his only instance of douchebaggery. stop being condescending and stop putting words in my mouth

kedinik
Profile Joined September 2010
United States352 Posts
August 24 2011 05:34 GMT
#72
Major's probably the strongest player in the Americas and Destiny struggles against the oddly-timed rampant aggression that Major loves.

Though Destiny can pull off miracle wins against pretty much anyone.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 24 2011 05:45 GMT
#73
If Major prepares or takes the showmatch seriously at all he'll win 3-0. If not he'll win 3-2.
lulzury
Profile Joined February 2010
United States236 Posts
August 24 2011 06:24 GMT
#74
Pretty easy to guess who is going to win this thing. Major will 3-0 with no problem. He'll even make his marines dance for all the Destiny fangirls.
SEn hwaiting!!!
Wrecken
Profile Joined March 2011
United States213 Posts
August 24 2011 06:37 GMT
#75
Major made it out of open bracket and into pool play at his 1st event in MLG Columbus. He plowed through axslav, spades, and tyler with no problem. In pool play he dominated incontrol and narrowly lost to ret, and he is top 3 NA player. He just won 10k vs catz and dkiller, who aren't really pushovers, and he was a beast at BW, and was up there with IdrA and ret. 3-0 for Major.
Gheed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States972 Posts
August 24 2011 12:36 GMT
#76
So long as Major plays aggressively, I think it should be 3-0 or 3-1. I've seen Destiny beat Major on the ladder before, but only in longer games where Major failed to apply much successful pressure. Should Destiny manage to get to the late game I think the games will be closer than people would think, however.
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
August 24 2011 12:59 GMT
#77
On August 24 2011 09:24 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 05:17 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:08 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:43 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:40 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:06 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:02 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote:
Major is probably the best NA terran with Select, and he should know Destinys style pretty well by now.

Major to win 3-1.


Major is the best NA player. His macro and multittasking is not seen better by any other foreigner.

I don't think he has enough actual accomplishments to be considered above Huk and Idra.

But yeah, he's good.


Tournaments won =/ skills.
If you have a good understanding of the game you can look at how a player play and make a better judgement of the players skill level.

Whatever dude. You won't find many people agreeing with that notion, but I'm sure you have a better understanding of the game than all of them.


Learn to argue by using logic please.

Argue? With your logic I could say any random player, for example Drewbie, is the best on NA and reason it with arbitrary "understanding of the game".

No other progamer is calling Major the best player on NA, nor does he have any significant results to make a case for it. Your logic is "I think he's the best, so that makes him the best". How is that good arguing?
You could start by analysing majors weakness's compared to other NA players you find better, and argue why major isn't the best. If you cant do that, dont bother trying to argue who is better than major.

When someone is claiming that a relatively underperforming player is better than his peers at the game, the burden of proof lies on the person making that controversial claim.

So go ahead, tell us what exactly makes Major better than these players he keeps losing to.


Lol you obv. have no idea what your talking about. Who does major keeps losing to?
Looks like: A) you have barely watched him play. B) You have no idea what tournaments he has entered. And btw he just won a 10k$ tournaments, which you prob have not noticed.

I gave you a relatively simple questions. Try to argue why player x is better than major. But obv. you can't, since you need other progamers to tell you who the best players are. Thats fine dude, but then you should not participate in discussions like this.


This reminds of a religious debate in which the Christian demands the Atheist to prove that god doesn't exist. He's saying the burden of proof lies on you. He's not going to prove someone is better than Major, you have to prove Major is the best. How do you do that? Tournament results however, every tournament Major has entered he has rather poorly. Beating LA scrubs is no accomplishment. Dignitas Killer is pretty good but thats it.

That said I have nothing against Major. He's really good but Select, Kiwi, Huk, Idra would easily beat him. I'd even put someone like Slush above Major.
Platinum Support GOD
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
August 24 2011 13:27 GMT
#78
Come to think of it, has there been any official statement by Major or sixjax about the smurfing affair in the SEA tournament?
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
August 24 2011 13:31 GMT
#79
Betting on Destiny...................literally 5$ with a friend

come on man win me money!
The opinions expressed by our users do not reflect the official position of TeamLiquid.net or its staff.
Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
August 24 2011 13:39 GMT
#80
On August 24 2011 21:59 MattBarry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 09:24 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:17 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 05:08 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:43 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:40 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:06 Bagi wrote:
On August 24 2011 03:02 Hider wrote:
On August 24 2011 02:54 Bagi wrote:
Major is probably the best NA terran with Select, and he should know Destinys style pretty well by now.

Major to win 3-1.


Major is the best NA player. His macro and multittasking is not seen better by any other foreigner.

I don't think he has enough actual accomplishments to be considered above Huk and Idra.

But yeah, he's good.


Tournaments won =/ skills.
If you have a good understanding of the game you can look at how a player play and make a better judgement of the players skill level.

Whatever dude. You won't find many people agreeing with that notion, but I'm sure you have a better understanding of the game than all of them.


Learn to argue by using logic please.

Argue? With your logic I could say any random player, for example Drewbie, is the best on NA and reason it with arbitrary "understanding of the game".

No other progamer is calling Major the best player on NA, nor does he have any significant results to make a case for it. Your logic is "I think he's the best, so that makes him the best". How is that good arguing?
You could start by analysing majors weakness's compared to other NA players you find better, and argue why major isn't the best. If you cant do that, dont bother trying to argue who is better than major.

When someone is claiming that a relatively underperforming player is better than his peers at the game, the burden of proof lies on the person making that controversial claim.

So go ahead, tell us what exactly makes Major better than these players he keeps losing to.


Lol you obv. have no idea what your talking about. Who does major keeps losing to?
Looks like: A) you have barely watched him play. B) You have no idea what tournaments he has entered. And btw he just won a 10k$ tournaments, which you prob have not noticed.

I gave you a relatively simple questions. Try to argue why player x is better than major. But obv. you can't, since you need other progamers to tell you who the best players are. Thats fine dude, but then you should not participate in discussions like this.


This reminds of a religious debate in which the Christian demands the Atheist to prove that god doesn't exist. He's saying the burden of proof lies on you. He's not going to prove someone is better than Major, you have to prove Major is the best. How do you do that? Tournament results however, every tournament Major has entered he has rather poorly. Beating LA scrubs is no accomplishment. Dignitas Killer is pretty good but thats it.

That said I have nothing against Major. He's really good but Select, Kiwi, Huk, Idra would easily beat him. I'd even put someone like Slush above Major.


All i have to say to that is....Your going to eat those words this weekend.
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 9 10 11 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 38m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 192
Rex 28
StarCraft: Brood War
Horang2 14888
Sea 5883
Jaedong 900
Larva 450
Stork 351
Soma 342
Mini 224
Hyuk 186
BeSt 183
Zeus 151
[ Show more ]
ZerO 140
EffOrt 128
Sharp 125
910 115
Rush 115
Pusan 113
Snow 79
Shuttle 72
Leta 67
Barracks 65
Hyun 56
NotJumperer 47
ToSsGirL 38
Mind 38
Shine 37
sorry 35
soO 30
JYJ 25
Sea.KH 19
zelot 18
Movie 17
Yoon 16
Noble 15
GoRush 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 10
Bale 4
Dota 2
Fuzer 224
NeuroSwarm187
XcaliburYe142
League of Legends
C9.Mang0429
JimRising 391
Counter-Strike
summit1g9542
olofmeister1917
shoxiejesuss923
x6flipin475
edward262
Other Games
B2W.Neo884
Mew2King96
ZerO(Twitch)9
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick714
BasetradeTV2
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc254
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 5
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2063
Upcoming Events
Wardi Open
38m
Rex28
OSC
1d
Solar vs MaxPax
ByuN vs Krystianer
Spirit vs TBD
OSC
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
4 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
5 days
OSC
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W2
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.