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DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 21 2011 13:44 GMT
#661
On August 21 2011 22:43 QuantumPhysX wrote:
Anyone know where the caster bought there shirts? lol


Probably at GC ? :D
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 21 2011 13:44 GMT
#662
On August 21 2011 22:42 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:38 sleepingdog wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:35 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:32 Fyzar wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:30 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:22 Soyuz wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:19 Phaint wrote:
Rotterdam and Mr. Bitter seem to be completely sick of each other by now haha

what makes you say that?
edit: seen a few other posts talking about the same conflict

Just now RotterDam Correcting Mr.Bitter about stalker lifting phoenix

Rotti is a PvP expert, and Mr Bitter plays zerg and hates toss ;p, it's just helping him out afaik.

You can feel the tension between the two. And also the way Rotterdam correct it with a big NO!, and Mr.Bitter saying No? If it's was Day9 correcting DJwheat or Artosis correcting Tasteless its less harsher tone.


On August 21 2011 22:37 itstheTB wrote:
Rotter and Bitter hate each other, and it's so evident it's actually embarrassing, and I'm surpriced


I'm getting so sick and tired of this - SHUT IT already, will you?

Rotti and MrBitter have repeatedly stated that they don't have any problems with one another, spending long hours in their free-time together laddering and stuff. They correct each other because they don't feel the need to be overly polite and blindly agree with every nonsense the other one fabricates. It's much, much better than the "blablablablblubb" "yeah, I agree".

You people look for drama everywhere, it seems.

Why you mad? clam down it's just discussion.

I am honestly quite mad as well, simply because of the blatant stupidity displayed here. Its kind of hard to fathom for me that people can be that dense.
Off-season = best season
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 13:44 GMT
#663
On August 21 2011 22:43 QuantumPhysX wrote:
Anyone know where the caster bought there shirts? lol

You can buy them at the convention/in the ESL-shop
morbvs
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany358 Posts
August 21 2011 13:45 GMT
#664
On August 21 2011 22:43 QuantumPhysX wrote:
Anyone know where the caster bought there shirts? lol


http://www.esl-shop.net/
Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen.
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
August 21 2011 13:46 GMT
#665
On August 21 2011 22:40 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:37 Redox wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:34 DertoQq wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:33 Zarahtra wrote:
What should Socke have done? Even focusing the colossi, he would surely not kill 3, maybe 1, max 2.


Ye i agree. focusing the collosus wouldn't have changed anything anyway.

So not doing anything besides lifting a single stalker is better than lifting immortal and zealots (which gives you a chance at winnign ground fight) and killing colussus?


No, but saying Socke lost because of that is completely wrong. There were no way for him to win this fight. He lost as soon as he started that fight.

Maybe you should find a better reason for him to lose the game instead of the obvious "oh he switched target before killing the collosus !"


No..phoenix is build order counter to colossus. Even MC mentioned it in Homestory Cup. Rotterdam is right. I don't know why people doubt him about PvP. You need to attack while the colsosus is 2 or less. At 3, the colossus burst damage will zealots way too fast. Socke's phoenix also engaged way too late. The Phoenix needs to engage the colossus before the colossus engaged Socke's main army.
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
August 21 2011 13:46 GMT
#666
On August 21 2011 22:35 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:33 FeyFey wrote:
awww lift the immortals focus the stalkers with your own immortals and then retreat while poking the colossi!
Socke couldn't decide on what to do with the phoenix really.



You guys all realize it takes like 14 phoenix shots to kill a stalker right? And 3x that to kill a colossus.

At that time the colossus have killed half of the ground army...

He should have never engaged that army. Snipe the nexus and run away, maybe kill some workers in the main with phoenix to distract mana.




thats why you use your immortals and own stalkers to kill their stalkers, then run for the hills, while your phoenix will kill the colossi, just like i said. Nothing about killing stalkers with phoenix ... so hit quote on th wrong person ;P.

Anyway 35 probes on one base this game? bit to much investment into eco heh. getting nervouse these two
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 21 2011 13:46 GMT
#667
On August 21 2011 22:42 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:38 sleepingdog wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:35 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:32 Fyzar wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:30 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:22 Soyuz wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:19 Phaint wrote:
Rotterdam and Mr. Bitter seem to be completely sick of each other by now haha

what makes you say that?
edit: seen a few other posts talking about the same conflict

Just now RotterDam Correcting Mr.Bitter about stalker lifting phoenix

Rotti is a PvP expert, and Mr Bitter plays zerg and hates toss ;p, it's just helping him out afaik.

You can feel the tension between the two. And also the way Rotterdam correct it with a big NO!, and Mr.Bitter saying No? If it's was Day9 correcting DJwheat or Artosis correcting Tasteless its less harsher tone.


On August 21 2011 22:37 itstheTB wrote:
Rotter and Bitter hate each other, and it's so evident it's actually embarrassing, and I'm surpriced


I'm getting so sick and tired of this - SHUT IT already, will you?

Rotti and MrBitter have repeatedly stated that they don't have any problems with one another, spending long hours in their free-time together laddering and stuff. They correct each other because they don't feel the need to be overly polite and blindly agree with every nonsense the other one fabricates. It's much, much better than the "blablablablblubb" "yeah, I agree".

You people look for drama everywhere, it seems.

Why you mad? clam down it's just discussion.


Not only does this "discussion" not belong here, but you are also wrong.

It's very annoying that always people who are obviously not very familiar with the respective casters feel the urge to start those "discussions"

Each and every LR-thread.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Doler
Profile Joined July 2011
United States206 Posts
August 21 2011 13:47 GMT
#668
So is MC vs Puma gonna start right after?
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 13:47:40
August 21 2011 13:47 GMT
#669
http://www.esl-shop.net/ for the tees
Woop Woop!
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
August 21 2011 13:48 GMT
#670
On August 21 2011 22:47 Doler wrote:
So is MC vs Puma gonna start right after?


nope, MC vs PUMA starts in 1 hour 45 minutes, there is a raffle in between on the main stage.
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
August 21 2011 13:48 GMT
#671
While we're on downtime, this is 2GD vs Zalmah, the solitary reason to watch WoW arena because if you didn't, you missed these two:


These two really did hate each other.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
August 21 2011 13:49 GMT
#672
On August 21 2011 22:46 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:40 DertoQq wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:37 Redox wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:34 DertoQq wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:33 Zarahtra wrote:
What should Socke have done? Even focusing the colossi, he would surely not kill 3, maybe 1, max 2.


Ye i agree. focusing the collosus wouldn't have changed anything anyway.

So not doing anything besides lifting a single stalker is better than lifting immortal and zealots (which gives you a chance at winnign ground fight) and killing colussus?


No, but saying Socke lost because of that is completely wrong. There were no way for him to win this fight. He lost as soon as he started that fight.

Maybe you should find a better reason for him to lose the game instead of the obvious "oh he switched target before killing the collosus !"


No..phoenix is build order counter to colossus. Even MC mentioned it in Homestory Cup. Rotterdam is right. I don't know why people doubt him about PvP. You need to attack while the colsosus is 2 or less. At 3, the colossus burst damage will zealots way too fast. Socke's phoenix also engaged way too late. The Phoenix needs to engage the colossus before the colossus engaged Socke's main army.


He had 3 or 4 Phonix when mana had 2 collossus. and mana had the surperior ground army.
I don't see him winning this.

Key was that Mana expanded instead of attacking. That's where he won the game. I'd actually consider it a build order loss cause socke had no timing the entire game and then was forced to attack.
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 21 2011 13:49 GMT
#673
On August 21 2011 22:46 kheldorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:40 DertoQq wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:37 Redox wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:34 DertoQq wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:33 Zarahtra wrote:
What should Socke have done? Even focusing the colossi, he would surely not kill 3, maybe 1, max 2.


Ye i agree. focusing the collosus wouldn't have changed anything anyway.

So not doing anything besides lifting a single stalker is better than lifting immortal and zealots (which gives you a chance at winnign ground fight) and killing colussus?


No, but saying Socke lost because of that is completely wrong. There were no way for him to win this fight. He lost as soon as he started that fight.

Maybe you should find a better reason for him to lose the game instead of the obvious "oh he switched target before killing the collosus !"


No..phoenix is build order counter to colossus. Even MC mentioned it in Homestory Cup. Rotterdam is right. I don't know why people doubt him about PvP. You need to attack while the colsosus is 2 or less. At 3, the colossus burst damage will zealots way too fast. Socke's phoenix also engaged way too late. The Phoenix needs to engage the colossus before the colossus engaged Socke's main army.


Phoenix build is great against colossus yes. But in this particular fight, there was no way for socke to win. You can try to do the fight with the exact same amount of unit, you'll never win the fight.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Squirrel_x360a
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia305 Posts
August 21 2011 13:49 GMT
#674
I love Rotti, I love Bitter, and I love Bitterdam. Can we all just stop fighting and enjoy the games that are being played. Everyone can take their caster bashing to IRC or something, we don't want it here.

I'd like to see any of you do what they do in front of thousands of people, so that we can then bash you for being a douche.
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 13:53:14
August 21 2011 13:50 GMT
#675
Game 5 starting on Shattered Temple, Socke starting @ 12o'clock and Mana @ 9

Socke again quick 2gas, stealing gas and no Zealot
Jinivus
Profile Joined July 2011
747 Posts
August 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#676
Yeah well can he do a push up with 1 finger like Goku???
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
August 21 2011 13:52 GMT
#677
I love Mr Bitter and i like Rotterdam.
Definitely one of my dream team commentators
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 13:54:05
August 21 2011 13:53 GMT
#678
I'd like to see a 4 gate vs socke - he plays quite unsafe, would like to see how he defends it

EDIT: one gate TC now even
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
August 21 2011 13:53 GMT
#679
On August 21 2011 22:50 clusen wrote:
Game 5 starting on Shattered Temple, Socke starting @ 12o'clock and Mana @ 9

Socke again quick 2gas, stealing gas and no Zealot


get your clock right
Sintram
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden11 Posts
August 21 2011 13:53 GMT
#680
On Esl.tv it says that the finals will begin at 17.30 but here on TL it says 16.30.
Can anyone confirm wich?
If I never stop searching I will never have failed to find it.
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