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TheOneAboveU
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Germany3367 Posts
August 21 2011 13:34 GMT
#621
On August 21 2011 22:33 Redox wrote:
So bad control by Socke. Should have done likce otti said. Lifting a few stalkers while not doing much else was fail. Also, why not lift immortal?


exactly my thoughts.
he used the same Bo in the EPS Finals vs. Hasu so well.
Moderatoralias TripleM | @TL_TripleM | Big Dark Energy!
DertoQq
Profile Joined October 2010
France906 Posts
August 21 2011 13:34 GMT
#622
On August 21 2011 22:33 Zarahtra wrote:
What should Socke have done? Even focusing the colossi, he would surely not kill 3, maybe 1, max 2.


Ye i agree. focusing the collosus wouldn't have changed anything anyway.
"i've made some empty promises in my life, but hands down that was the most generous" - Michael Scott
Xkalibert
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1404 Posts
August 21 2011 13:35 GMT
#623
On August 21 2011 22:32 Fyzar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:30 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:22 Soyuz wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:19 Phaint wrote:
Rotterdam and Mr. Bitter seem to be completely sick of each other by now haha

what makes you say that?
edit: seen a few other posts talking about the same conflict

Just now RotterDam Correcting Mr.Bitter about stalker lifting phoenix

Rotti is a PvP expert, and Mr Bitter plays zerg and hates toss ;p, it's just helping him out afaik.

You can feel the tension between the two. And also the way Rotterdam correct it with a big NO!, and Mr.Bitter saying No? If it's was Day9 correcting DJwheat or Artosis correcting Tasteless its less harsher tone.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
August 21 2011 13:35 GMT
#624
He would've needed more phoenix. I've gone 2 stargate phoenix before and you might lose your ground army, but if you kill their stalkers then you've pretty much won the game as the rest of their army can't do anything and you can pick off the low number of stalkers that he can warp in every time.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
August 21 2011 13:35 GMT
#625
maybe he could have tried void rays and focus down the stalkers
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
August 21 2011 13:35 GMT
#626
On August 21 2011 22:33 FeyFey wrote:
awww lift the immortals focus the stalkers with your own immortals and then retreat while poking the colossi!
Socke couldn't decide on what to do with the phoenix really.



You guys all realize it takes like 14 phoenix shots to kill a stalker right? And 3x that to kill a colossus.

At that time the colossus have killed half of the ground army...

He should have never engaged that army. Snipe the nexus and run away, maybe kill some workers in the main with phoenix to distract mana.
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
August 21 2011 13:36 GMT
#627
On August 21 2011 22:34 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:33 Zarahtra wrote:
What should Socke have done? Even focusing the colossi, he would surely not kill 3, maybe 1, max 2.


Ye i agree. focusing the collosus wouldn't have changed anything anyway.


I was very surprised why he felt he had to move out in the first place - that many phoenixes guarantees a ton of probe kills anyways.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 13:36 GMT
#628
Game 4 on Terminus starting, Mana 12o'clock, Socke 3
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
August 21 2011 13:36 GMT
#629
On August 21 2011 22:35 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:32 Fyzar wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:30 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:22 Soyuz wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:19 Phaint wrote:
Rotterdam and Mr. Bitter seem to be completely sick of each other by now haha

what makes you say that?
edit: seen a few other posts talking about the same conflict

Just now RotterDam Correcting Mr.Bitter about stalker lifting phoenix

Rotti is a PvP expert, and Mr Bitter plays zerg and hates toss ;p, it's just helping him out afaik.

You can feel the tension between the two. And also the way Rotterdam correct it with a big NO!, and Mr.Bitter saying No? If it's was Day9 correcting DJwheat or Artosis correcting Tasteless its less harsher tone.


You're seeing/hearing things that most people aren't. Hell, they were just joking about Rotterdam's underwear and I didn't hear undertones of shut up or anything.
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KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
August 21 2011 13:36 GMT
#630
On August 21 2011 22:35 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:32 Fyzar wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:30 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:22 Soyuz wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:19 Phaint wrote:
Rotterdam and Mr. Bitter seem to be completely sick of each other by now haha

what makes you say that?
edit: seen a few other posts talking about the same conflict

Just now RotterDam Correcting Mr.Bitter about stalker lifting phoenix

Rotti is a PvP expert, and Mr Bitter plays zerg and hates toss ;p, it's just helping him out afaik.

You can feel the tension between the two. And also the way Rotterdam correct it with a big NO!, and Mr.Bitter saying No? If it's was Day9 correcting DJwheat or Artosis correcting Tasteless its less harsher tone.



i think you your emagination is playing games on you... the both stated yesterday that they have absolutely no problem with each other... they would not hire a caster to form a team if the both dont like each other, how dumb would that be.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 21 2011 13:37 GMT
#631
On August 21 2011 22:34 DertoQq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:33 Zarahtra wrote:
What should Socke have done? Even focusing the colossi, he would surely not kill 3, maybe 1, max 2.


Ye i agree. focusing the collosus wouldn't have changed anything anyway.

So not doing anything besides lifting a single stalker is better than lifting immortal and zealots (which gives you a chance at winnign ground fight) and killing colussus?
Off-season = best season
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 13:37:34
August 21 2011 13:37 GMT
#632
I'd say there's a little bit of stepping on each others toes, but they get along pretty well. It's probably just the fact they've been casting for 4 days now. I think you're seeing things.

They're nowhere near 2GD/Zalmah friction, which made WoW far more entertaining than it had any right to be.
itstheTB
Profile Joined August 2011
61 Posts
August 21 2011 13:37 GMT
#633
Rotter and Bitter hate each other, and it's so evident it's actually embarrassing, and I'm surpriced
Carmac or someone doesn't actually correct them both. This behaviour is childish and unprofessional.
I expect to not see at least one of them in the next IEM.

Oh and Socke, why does he do a bunch of Phoenix just to lift up two or three stalkers? If he would have ran away after the Nexus snipe, he would've won.

User was warned for this post
Lobo2me
Profile Joined May 2010
Norway1213 Posts
August 21 2011 13:37 GMT
#634
Rotterdams laugh reminds me of Bob Saget on South Park.
Bad manners are better than no manners at all.
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
August 21 2011 13:38 GMT
#635
On August 21 2011 22:36 sleepingdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:34 DertoQq wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:33 Zarahtra wrote:
What should Socke have done? Even focusing the colossi, he would surely not kill 3, maybe 1, max 2.


Ye i agree. focusing the collosus wouldn't have changed anything anyway.


I was very surprised why he felt he had to move out in the first place - that many phoenixes guarantees a ton of probe kills anyways.

Well if he had gone and killed the probes, that'd just tell mana "go kill him". I liked the idea of lifting the immo, esp. since socke was trying to protect his zlots from the colossi, by having them in the back at the start(which could've also made the ground fight go so bad).
Dezire
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands640 Posts
August 21 2011 13:38 GMT
#636
Shiiip it
BoxeR, HuK, IdrA, Minigun, MVP <3
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
August 21 2011 13:38 GMT
#637
On August 21 2011 22:37 itstheTB wrote:
Rotter and Bitter hate each other, and it's so evident it's actually embarrassing, and I'm surpriced
Carmac or someone doesn't actually correct them both. This behaviour is childish and unprofessional.
I expect to not see at least one of them in the next IEM.

Oh and Socke, why does he do a bunch of Phoenix just to lift up two or three stalkers? If he would have ran away after the Nexus snipe, he would've won.

I seriously hope you are trolling.
Although your second sentence makes me doubt it.
Off-season = best season
sleepingdog
Profile Joined August 2008
Austria6145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 13:39:29
August 21 2011 13:38 GMT
#638
On August 21 2011 22:35 Xkalibert wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 22:32 Fyzar wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:30 Xkalibert wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:22 Soyuz wrote:
On August 21 2011 22:19 Phaint wrote:
Rotterdam and Mr. Bitter seem to be completely sick of each other by now haha

what makes you say that?
edit: seen a few other posts talking about the same conflict

Just now RotterDam Correcting Mr.Bitter about stalker lifting phoenix

Rotti is a PvP expert, and Mr Bitter plays zerg and hates toss ;p, it's just helping him out afaik.

You can feel the tension between the two. And also the way Rotterdam correct it with a big NO!, and Mr.Bitter saying No? If it's was Day9 correcting DJwheat or Artosis correcting Tasteless its less harsher tone.


On August 21 2011 22:37 itstheTB wrote:
Rotter and Bitter hate each other, and it's so evident it's actually embarrassing, and I'm surpriced


I'm getting so sick and tired of this - SHUT IT already, will you?

Rotti and MrBitter have repeatedly stated that they don't have any problems with one another, spending long hours in their free-time together laddering and stuff. They correct each other because they don't feel the need to be overly polite and blindly agree with every nonsense the other one fabricates. It's much, much better than the "blablablablblubb" "yeah, I agree".

You people look for drama everywhere, it seems.
"You see....YOU SEE..." © 2010 Sen
clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
August 21 2011 13:39 GMT
#639
Socke going for 3Stalker rush + gas steal and adds a TC, Mana going for 3 Gates before Robo again
KroN
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany438 Posts
August 21 2011 13:39 GMT
#640
On August 21 2011 22:37 itstheTB wrote:
Rotter and Bitter hate each other, and it's so evident it's actually embarrassing, and I'm surpriced
Carmac or someone doesn't actually correct them both. This behaviour is childish and unprofessional.
I expect to not see at least one of them in the next IEM.

Oh and Socke, why does he do a bunch of Phoenix just to lift up two or three stalkers? If he would have ran away after the Nexus snipe, he would've won.


So both just straight lie to all of us, because they postet several times, that they have no problem at all with each other and even hang out together in the evenings... you should maybe read things like that before posting such bullshit
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