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sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5101
atleast mana 2-0'd puma
but he didn't use 111 i don't think and used a 'weird' ghost timing but still
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5102
I wish they had dota 2 right now to play. I need a new game to refresh.
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5103
Puma always so humble in such ceremonies. Respect for him.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
kheldorin
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore539 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5104
On August 22 2011 02:50 Whiteman103 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:48 Terminal wrote:
Wtf? People voted MC? Why? MaNa/Socke/Moonglade or something surely.


well MC has a fuck ton of fanboys


Mainly because of his warp prism play against Select. And the base race against Mana. The rest of the players didn't show any exceptional moves.
rtsAlaran
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany383 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5105
omg what a interview and wrap up T.T
oogieogie
Profile Joined June 2011
United States3657 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5106
On August 22 2011 02:45 Warrice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:43 skyrunner wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:37 oogieogie wrote:
why the heck is it fine that toss complain about 1/1/1, and not ok when zerg complain about blink stalker allins?

If you are wondering..neither are needed.

Because:
1. ZvP is in general in favour of zerg right now. TvP is in favour of terran.
2. Blink stalkers is not impossible to beat at all, and not as prevalent.
3. You can scout blink and counter it ez. 1/1/1 doesn't matter if you know its coming or not. you still lose, no matter how good you are (almost).
4. Even if protoss holds on, Terran just does it all over again (Game 1 in this very set).

Why the heck is a zerg even in this thread complaining about pvz? 1/1/1 is terrible right now, doesn't matter what goes on in pvz.



keep in mind mc also lost the nexus in the first push in the 1st game, he also rebuilt it and over-econned it is a VERY hard position to lose form but he made every thing possible to make it so.

The bolds are just so ridiculously bias i won't even deal with them. Also i was just bringing up a point where no race should complain about builds till sc2 is longer so we have more "BW balance".

ps: my post is for the first person
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5107
On August 22 2011 02:50 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:43 CeriseCherries wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:40 WickedBit wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:35 Fig wrote:
wow so sad when the best toss player in the world can't beat 1/1/1. At least there is bound to be a patch soon Always look for the silver lining.


Im sorry but blizz wont nerf terran. I think we need a new morrow who will just 1/1/1 every game with toss till blizz nerf it or buff toss. I have no idea why all terrans dont do it every game. Is it a morality thing ? Clearly here is a build when decently executed will beat all tosses in the world and there is no good response and doesnt require toss to be 100 times better than terran to hold.
PuMA cheesed his way to final win and people are saying he is good ? I saw nothing in this game from Puma that any terran in the world wont be capable off. He is just a random code B scrub who has trouble in korea since he sucks at TvT since everyone is a terran there. Let me see him beet MVP or bomber and I'll agree he is good. All he did is come out of korea to own non koreans .


Ok I hate all this Puma bashing. He was a badass practice partner in BW, practicing with people like Flash. This guy went to NASL open brackets and the NASL finals and WON. He's pretty damn good.


PUma deserves his bashing after what he did to TSL. that's why i don't root for him. Plus he is a boring personality. MC is so charismatic, but cocky to a fault sometimes. I didn't think he prepared for Puma today. And now Puma is in MC's head... It's going to be REALLY hard to overcome that pyschological edge Puma has over MC IMO

BTW I don't dislike EG. they did what is in their best interests. I think PUMA could've handled the team transfer 100% better than he did.

I think you might be the only person that actually thinks the EG-TSL drama was Puma's fault. Congratulations.
_Repo
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom71 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5108
On August 22 2011 02:50 chatuka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:43 CeriseCherries wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:40 WickedBit wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:35 Fig wrote:
wow so sad when the best toss player in the world can't beat 1/1/1. At least there is bound to be a patch soon Always look for the silver lining.


Im sorry but blizz wont nerf terran. I think we need a new morrow who will just 1/1/1 every game with toss till blizz nerf it or buff toss. I have no idea why all terrans dont do it every game. Is it a morality thing ? Clearly here is a build when decently executed will beat all tosses in the world and there is no good response and doesnt require toss to be 100 times better than terran to hold.
PuMA cheesed his way to final win and people are saying he is good ? I saw nothing in this game from Puma that any terran in the world wont be capable off. He is just a random code B scrub who has trouble in korea since he sucks at TvT since everyone is a terran there. Let me see him beet MVP or bomber and I'll agree he is good. All he did is come out of korea to own non koreans .


Ok I hate all this Puma bashing. He was a badass practice partner in BW, practicing with people like Flash. This guy went to NASL open brackets and the NASL finals and WON. He's pretty damn good.


PUma deserves his bashing after what he did to TSL. that's why i don't root for him. Plus he is a boring personality. MC is so charismatic, but cocky to a fault sometimes. I didn't think he prepared for Puma today. And now Puma is in MC's head... It's going to be REALLY hard to overcome that pyschological edge Puma has over MC IMO

BTW I don't dislike EG. they did what is in their best interests. I think PUMA could've handled the team transfer 100% better than he did.



People still bitter over that? lol, get a grip, or go out your house into the real world.
Sernyl
Profile Joined March 2011
Lithuania113 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5109
MC does 4gate/stargate/DT rush/proxy, wins a tournament = Best player /world
Puma does 1 1/1/1 and then a hybrid 1/1/1 with a weird timing, wins a tournament = Most hated person.

Yep.Sure is great.
OK
Mithriel
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands2969 Posts
August 21 2011 17:51 GMT
#5110
On August 22 2011 02:51 tuho12345 wrote:
I wish they had dota 2 right now to play. I need a new game to refresh.


dota2 looked amazing, im so pumped to play it too! Have to wait/hope that i get beta! <3
There is no shame in defeat so long as the spirit is unconquered. | Cheering for Maru, Innovation and MMA!
TMOUllrich
Profile Joined February 2011
England59 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5111
What is the music playing ? Thanks
dbddbddb
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore969 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5112
On August 22 2011 02:50 hugedong wrote:
highlight of the thread is all the people threatening to quit watching sc2 because of 1-1-1 rofl

also mc is fucking pissed


its like the 4 gate of TvP.. tiem for nurf!
JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5113
On August 22 2011 02:48 Terminal wrote:
Wtf? People voted MC? Why? MaNa/Socke/Moonglade or something surely.

Because tbh no other than MC can truely be called the sickest nerd baller! But i agree, Socke and especially Mana were probably more impressive. But on the other hand that's because you didn't expect them to do that well, while with MC, everyone was expecting him to be in the final anyway. Why would Moonglade be the sick nerd baller though?
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5114
On August 22 2011 02:52 TMOUllrich wrote:
What is the music playing ? Thanks

Dream Theater - The Count of Tuscany
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
DooMDash
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1015 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5115
Remember when Puma beat MC with out 1-1-1 anyway in another big tournament finals? Crazy I know right.
S1 3500+ Master T. S2 1600+ Master T.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5116
On August 22 2011 02:37 taLbuk wrote:
Remember when zergs were crying 2 months ago about protoss being unbeatable and than they changed up their strategy and playstyle?


I lol'ed.
Infestors got buffed, that's all.

Very bad series, seriously, since Blizzard won't make a patch until HotS, PvT will be imbalanced for a pretty long time, and it sucks.

Now the real question is : how many Terrans in the first places of MLG Anaheim ?

User was temp banned for this post.
Warrice
Profile Joined July 2010
United States565 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5117
On August 22 2011 02:49 Uliking wrote:
lol When Protoss players talk about imbalance topic it's okay.
When Zerg does it's just QQ.

yeah.. i know right..
was banned for zerg qq myself awhile ago. There will probably be a lot of bans in this thread.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5118
On August 22 2011 02:49 Uliking wrote:
lol When Protoss players talk about imbalance topic it's okay.
When Zerg does it's just QQ.


Because to most people we actually know far and a way this is serious imbalance.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Spicy Pepper
Profile Joined December 2009
United States632 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5119
Zerg was imbalanced and it was right to discuss it. Now protoss is imbalanced, and it should be discussed. Some people just hate imbalance regardless of race. I know this is a tough concept for some people who have blinders on.
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
August 21 2011 17:52 GMT
#5120
On August 22 2011 02:50 MrDudeMan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:41 Catchafire2000 wrote:
Not to be a douche, but your pointing out mistakes from a TWO time GSL winner? I'm sure MC knows what he's doing and has the control. Let's not take anything away from Puma here, he's just really good. And MC is really good as well.


A lot of the people in this thread are commenting as if MC played perfectly and still lost. They are quick to forget about things like bad engagements, playing an econ style when you know your opponent is going to all in, losing a warp prism full of hts, getting a whole squad of ht's emp'd, separating a huge group of stalkers from the rest of your army. Ironically, whenever someone all-ins idra in a game, its usually people going on and on about how idra shouldn't drone/engage at that time.

The thing is, he played much better than puma. At one point he was 170 to 130 supply. He stopped 3 drops like nothing. He took down 2 barracks losing little units
He took down a command center turning into orbital. He was 2-2 vs 3-2 at the end. MC played better, its simply because amulet got taken away, if you mismicro even once, your fucked. MC mismicroed his prism, costing him the game, which is absolutely ridiculous cuz he was so far ahead.
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