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[special edit: Any more derailing over the fact that someone made a Germany vs Poland WW2 joke after page 21 will be met with a week ban.]
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5061
On August 22 2011 02:43 DrPhilOfdOOm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:42 tdt wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:36 Caphe wrote:
Well, PvT metagame right now is just Terran favored. Protoss just needs sometime to cope with it. But still I think these 3 games can go either way really.
In the last game, If MC didn't leave with his stalker he can stall the Terran army even more and build up some unit to stand a head to head fight.

I wonder why every unit is weaker than it's counterpart

Storm does 40 DPS EMP does 100
Stim Mauruars do 30 DPS stalkers do 14 DPS
2 tanks do over 25 DPS a more expensive collusi do 18
on own the line Protoss is just weaker.


Protoss weaker? still 3 toss in top 4 lol

Europeans arent exactly the top tier like korea is. I dont think race stats in Top X tell anyone anything if it isnt coming from korea
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5062
Where is PuMas team? I haven't seen anyone besides him He's even using MC translator what happened?
ZAiNs
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom6525 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5063
On August 22 2011 02:48 Terminal wrote:
Wtf? People voted MC? Why? MaNa/Socke/Moonglade or something surely.

Because he's had by far the most entertaining games so far, as well as the best interviews.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5064
On August 22 2011 02:24 corpsepose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:23 IMSmooth wrote:
you know its bad when the even TL mods let the whining slide slide


no theyre too disgusted to even try and reprimand the community

You should have seen the bans handed out when Z was dying left and right to P. I kind of learned about these mods.
xafies
Profile Joined February 2005
Greece78 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5065
so to sum up the counter to 1-1-1 allin terran is to n o t make any mistake at micro.This sounds quite easy -.-
its all about drawing a line ln the sand, across this line YOU DO NOT!
phildp
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia140 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5066
On August 22 2011 02:48 Mohdoo wrote:
lol wtf why would they give him a copy of SC2 ;;

haha my thoughts exactly!
ChadMann
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia128 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5067
MC is sooo angry... wow... Didnt care about all the prizes he just got...
But he is the sickest nerd baller and deserved the prize... (and the 1st place imo)...
#1 ANZ SC2 Team Manager https://twitter.com/ChadMannSC2
Perdac Curall
Profile Joined June 2011
242 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5068
Can anyone tell me if there will be VODs? I missed MC vs Puma
If a Black Death could spread throughout the world once in every generation, survivors could procreate freely without making the world too full. The state of affairs might be unpleasant, but what of it? -Sith Lord Bertrand Russell
Housemd
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1407 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 17:49:43
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5069
On August 22 2011 02:47 Herrk wrote:
they're giving away a copy of SC2? really?


Apparently, it's the Collector's Edition.
Fantasy is a beast
Maskedsatyr
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore1245 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5070
On August 22 2011 02:47 Blix wrote:
MC: what's this?

Nah he mentioned earlier he was hoping he would win the "sick nerd baller" title as well.
"Don't believe in you who believes in me, don't believe in me who believes in you, believe in you...who believes in yourself!"
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5071
On August 22 2011 02:47 Ramble wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:46 Andr3 wrote:
Why was there no whine during the BW days.
Now that I think about it, I wonder if BW pros whined about certain strategies that dominated certain eras. Just like 1-1-1 is "owning" it up again now in SC2.

MC's couple mistakes were too great and those cost him the game :[

Very well played by Puma, I hope to see more matches between these two ^^

People whined in BW as well, it's just everyone knew no balance patches or expansions were coming. And people should have the same mindset in SC2, treat the game as no patches were coming, see how you can improve instead of your race.


What happens if nobody figures out how to beat something after 6 months?

That will force the players to switch races, since they don't make any money with the losing race.

Patching is not bad.
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5072
MC looks terribly sad... it's making me even sadder
Cyrak
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada536 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5073
On August 22 2011 02:40 Snowbear wrote:
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On August 22 2011 02:39 Figgy wrote:
This is ridiculous.... Protoss needs their warpgate research changed back and insta-high templar storms back to deal with Zerg and Terran now. There just seems to be nothing they can do.


Top 4 = 3 protosses, indeed, they need a buff.


Regardless of what I think about the balance implications of this series (if there are any at all, I'm not certain) this is a stupid statement.

MC and Puma were by far the highest caliber players at this event and you can't group them in with the foreigners that attended. In the end this competition was extremely likely to come down to MC vs Puma. It did and the only series worth analyzing is theirs because the rest were a tier below.
Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Daigoro
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany251 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5074
wow mc is ecstatic about winning an orange hoodie
ShrimpDance
Profile Joined September 2010
392 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5075
I feel bad for MC and want to hug him and kiss his cheek
Kewlots
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia534 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5076
shit happens ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
gl hf gg
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5077
On August 22 2011 02:48 Mohdoo wrote:
lol wtf why would they give him a copy of SC2 ;;


cause that is all the sponsoring blizzard wanted to do for esports, that's why that blizzard employee is there.
Uliking
Profile Joined June 2011
Turkey15 Posts
August 21 2011 17:49 GMT
#5078
lol When Protoss players talk about imbalance topic it's okay.
When Zerg does it's just QQ.
Whiteman103
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1070 Posts
August 21 2011 17:50 GMT
#5079
On August 22 2011 02:48 Terminal wrote:
Wtf? People voted MC? Why? MaNa/Socke/Moonglade or something surely.


well MC has a fuck ton of fanboys
chatuka
Profile Joined July 2011
1351 Posts
August 21 2011 17:50 GMT
#5080
On August 22 2011 02:43 CeriseCherries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2011 02:40 WickedBit wrote:
On August 22 2011 02:35 Fig wrote:
wow so sad when the best toss player in the world can't beat 1/1/1. At least there is bound to be a patch soon Always look for the silver lining.


Im sorry but blizz wont nerf terran. I think we need a new morrow who will just 1/1/1 every game with toss till blizz nerf it or buff toss. I have no idea why all terrans dont do it every game. Is it a morality thing ? Clearly here is a build when decently executed will beat all tosses in the world and there is no good response and doesnt require toss to be 100 times better than terran to hold.
PuMA cheesed his way to final win and people are saying he is good ? I saw nothing in this game from Puma that any terran in the world wont be capable off. He is just a random code B scrub who has trouble in korea since he sucks at TvT since everyone is a terran there. Let me see him beet MVP or bomber and I'll agree he is good. All he did is come out of korea to own non koreans .


Ok I hate all this Puma bashing. He was a badass practice partner in BW, practicing with people like Flash. This guy went to NASL open brackets and the NASL finals and WON. He's pretty damn good.


PUma deserves his bashing after what he did to TSL. that's why i don't root for him. Plus he is a boring personality. MC is so charismatic, but cocky to a fault sometimes. I didn't think he prepared for Puma today. And now Puma is in MC's head... It's going to be REALLY hard to overcome that pyschological edge Puma has over MC IMO

BTW I don't dislike EG. they did what is in their best interests. I think PUMA could've handled the team transfer 100% better than he did.
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