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Micket
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 12:08:57
August 19 2011 12:07 GMT
#1241
I find it amazing how Korean Terrans can pressure Zerg so well, but never ever risk losing their army ever until they actually do a proper push. Most people in the foreign scene have this idea that they should do a standard marine tank timing push at 10 minutes when stim is done to 'pressure' zerg, but they end up losing their whole army, or get counter attacked and lost straight away. People need to play like the Korean Terrans, ie, not sieging up on creep until much later in the game, not committing every tank early in the game, doing drops and maintaining map control rather than turtle. The turtle, push, turtle, push, turtle, push style is fading fast.

Edit: stop talking about premature gg. He was down 60 supply with the Terran knocking at his front door, with a simple 8 marine drop being able to take down any hatchery.
Latty
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany567 Posts
August 19 2011 12:07 GMT
#1242
On August 19 2011 21:06 iMonAhorsE wrote:
why did nerchio had 12 infestors or so and no neural?


neural for what? tanks outrange it so no need.
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wats0n
Profile Joined July 2011
United States509 Posts
August 19 2011 12:07 GMT
#1243
On August 19 2011 21:06 Radook wrote:
People say Puma got a really bad cold and had fever and crap yesterday, is that true?


I'm not surprised. Everyone gets sick when they attend these lan tournaments. Just so many people and so many handshakes and hugs.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 12:08:25
August 19 2011 12:07 GMT
#1244
Where are these guys now who said Puma is overrated and worse than Nerchio? Puma absolutely dominating.

Even with jetlag and being sick.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 19 2011 12:07 GMT
#1245
On August 19 2011 21:07 Buff Terrans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:05 Rewera wrote:
Premature GG, Idra-type tilting incoming. Nerchios seem to be thinking he mus win convincingly and it's holding him down against Korean super stars.


Nerchio had nothing and PuMa had ~5+ tanks right infront of the zergs gold.

Nothing is not 5 bases. His production on money was enourmous. He could just RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and take a stand, keep in mind PuMa was only on 3 bases, losing gold would put Nerchio 4v3 in bases.
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DoubleB
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany870 Posts
August 19 2011 12:08 GMT
#1246
On August 19 2011 21:06 MechKing wrote:
Nerchio is playing pretty poorly compared to how well he can do.

I think he plays as well as always, please no excuses.
Puma is just way way way better !
Kirb
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany900 Posts
August 19 2011 12:08 GMT
#1247
On August 19 2011 21:06 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:05 Angelbelow wrote:
On August 19 2011 21:05 Corrik wrote:
I don't understand the gg there. I know he was way down... but it didn't seem unwinnable.

Not sure. I think he was just frustrated with that GG.


He lost his entire army + was about to lose his gold + puma killed a ton of drones. Theres no coming back from that.


I think if he went to mutas as soon as that engagement happened he could have taken everything out. Not sure if he had the resources banked for that switch... but if he did... he would have actually went back ahead.


Pum did also sent some marines to the base at 6.
Angelbelow
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3728 Posts
August 19 2011 12:08 GMT
#1248
On August 19 2011 21:06 Corrik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:05 Angelbelow wrote:
On August 19 2011 21:05 Corrik wrote:
I don't understand the gg there. I know he was way down... but it didn't seem unwinnable.

Not sure. I think he was just frustrated with that GG.


He lost his entire army + was about to lose his gold + puma killed a ton of drones. Theres no coming back from that.


I think if he went to mutas as soon as that engagement happened he could have taken everything out. Not sure if he had the resources banked for that switch... but if he did... he would have actually went back ahead.


Not sure what his resource was either but he had a ton of infestors and roaches plus upgrading to greater spire, so my guess is that he didnt have enough gas to make enough mutas to over take that push.
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double620
Profile Joined July 2011
China804 Posts
August 19 2011 12:08 GMT
#1249
On August 19 2011 21:05 clusen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:04 Kurumi wrote:
o_o Nerchio could not leave the game, he just fungaled last marines and there were around 4 tanks left and he was on what, 5 bases?

Because he knows that there will be reinforcements coming and he lost most of his Infestor


maybe at the same time there are a few more puma drops around somewhere on the map we did not see.... u know he is puma
so guys stop dreaming, the zerg has no chance
when mc says puma is a beast, u know how good that guy is.
Buff Terrans
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany75 Posts
August 19 2011 12:09 GMT
#1250
On August 19 2011 21:07 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:07 Buff Terrans wrote:
On August 19 2011 21:05 Rewera wrote:
Premature GG, Idra-type tilting incoming. Nerchios seem to be thinking he mus win convincingly and it's holding him down against Korean super stars.


Nerchio had nothing and PuMa had ~5+ tanks right infront of the zergs gold.

Nothing is not 5 bases. His production on money was enourmous. He could just RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and take a stand, keep in mind PuMa was only on 3 bases, losing gold would put Nerchio 4v3 in bases.


The game was done, after the helion drop + banshee herass.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
August 19 2011 12:09 GMT
#1251
On August 19 2011 21:06 Klosetmonkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:05 karn1 wrote:
Forcing roaches with some hellions and then going straight into tank-marine is a smart move. Nerchio dind't stand a chance


Nerchio always goes roaches so its not really forcing


yeah lol
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limper
Profile Joined August 2011
8 Posts
August 19 2011 12:09 GMT
#1252
On August 19 2011 21:07 Micket wrote:
I find it amazing how Korean Terrans can pressure Zerg so well, but never ever risk losing their army ever until they actually do a proper push. Most people in the foreign scene have this idea that they should do a standard marine tank timing push at 10 minutes when stim is done to 'pressure' zerg, but they end up losing their whole army, or get counter attacked and lost straight away. People need to play like the Korean Terrans, ie, not sieging up on creep until much later in the game, not committing every tank early in the game, doing drops and maintaining map control rather than turtle. The turtle, push, turtle, push, turtle, push style is fading fast.


yes because its so easy to do
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
August 19 2011 12:09 GMT
#1253
thats why i said making roaches in zvt is sub-optimal, you can be rolled in longer game so easily its not even funny
Stork[gm]
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
August 19 2011 12:09 GMT
#1254
On August 19 2011 21:07 wats0n wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:06 Radook wrote:
People say Puma got a really bad cold and had fever and crap yesterday, is that true?


I'm not surprised. Everyone gets sick when they attend these lan tournaments. Just so many people and so many handshakes and hugs.


LAN events have nerd cooties and germs everywhere
aZealot
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
New Zealand5447 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 12:10:28
August 19 2011 12:09 GMT
#1255


Is MC vs Select right after Puma vs Nerchio?
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iMonAhorsE
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany275 Posts
August 19 2011 12:10 GMT
#1256
On August 19 2011 21:07 Latty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:06 iMonAhorsE wrote:
why did nerchio had 12 infestors or so and no neural?


neural for what? tanks outrange it so no need.


he ran right to the tanklines with his infestors, he would have easily got his neurals off ...

Ammoth
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden391 Posts
August 19 2011 12:10 GMT
#1257
On August 19 2011 21:07 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:07 Buff Terrans wrote:
On August 19 2011 21:05 Rewera wrote:
Premature GG, Idra-type tilting incoming. Nerchios seem to be thinking he mus win convincingly and it's holding him down against Korean super stars.


Nerchio had nothing and PuMa had ~5+ tanks right infront of the zergs gold.

Nothing is not 5 bases. His production on money was enourmous. He could just RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and take a stand, keep in mind PuMa was only on 3 bases, losing gold would put Nerchio 4v3 in bases.

Though Puma had the gold as his third.
Gold+Mules=Profit
Warpish
Profile Joined June 2011
834 Posts
August 19 2011 12:10 GMT
#1258
Go Nerchio
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 19 2011 12:10 GMT
#1259
On August 19 2011 21:09 Buff Terrans wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:07 Kurumi wrote:
On August 19 2011 21:07 Buff Terrans wrote:
On August 19 2011 21:05 Rewera wrote:
Premature GG, Idra-type tilting incoming. Nerchios seem to be thinking he mus win convincingly and it's holding him down against Korean super stars.


Nerchio had nothing and PuMa had ~5+ tanks right infront of the zergs gold.

Nothing is not 5 bases. His production on money was enourmous. He could just RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and take a stand, keep in mind PuMa was only on 3 bases, losing gold would put Nerchio 4v3 in bases.


The game was done, after the helion drop + banshee herass.

I understand that Nerchio could've played that better. Spore+Spine at every mineral line would help a lot with drops/banshee and Ben said at one time that counter would be amazing.
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Synwave
Profile Joined July 2009
United States2803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 12:11:30
August 19 2011 12:10 GMT
#1260
On August 19 2011 21:08 DoubleB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 21:06 MechKing wrote:
Nerchio is playing pretty poorly compared to how well he can do.

I think he plays as well as always, please no excuses.
Puma is just way way way better !

But...but....the hype!

To be honest Ive seen nerchio show more composure to drop harass in most of his matches compared to that last match. We shall see if he can come back mentally after that loss

Edit: I cant count
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