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Caesarion

Australia8332 Posts

August 19 2011 17:18 GMT

#2561

On August 20 2011 02:17 Telcontar wrote:

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As would Ret.

He's already on the list actually

Montana[TK]

1624 Posts

August 19 2011 17:18 GMT

#2562

On August 20 2011 02:14 Telcontar wrote:

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Southern mannerisms I think. Jim Parsons is a texan I believe.

Where is MrBitter from?

Demonaz

United Kingdom1219 Posts

August 19 2011 17:18 GMT

#2563

MC - Puma final incoming hopefully :D

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

August 19 2011 17:18 GMT

#2564

On August 20 2011 02:17 Telcontar wrote:

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As would Ret.

ffs the guy I quoted mentioned ret

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

August 19 2011 17:19 GMT

#2565

On August 20 2011 02:18 Caesarion wrote:

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He's already on the list actually

Ooops, my bad. Didn't see ret's name at the end there.

Warpish

834 Posts

August 19 2011 17:19 GMT

#2566

On August 20 2011 02:17 Telcontar wrote:

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As would Ret.

Plus DarkForce and XLord.

noddy

United Kingdom927 Posts

August 19 2011 17:19 GMT

#2567

On August 20 2011 02:17 DertoQq wrote:

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Hasu looks more like him I would say. I literally laugh out loud the othe rday when hasu moved his head a bit quickly : D

Not seen much of HasuObs sadly

I always love watching MrBitter because of it though(and his commentary ofc)

MarKeD

Australia183 Posts

August 19 2011 17:19 GMT

#2568

MaNa must be really nervous or something, getting supply blocked a ton.

iAmBiGbiRd

Australia1029 Posts

August 19 2011 17:19 GMT

#2569

GLaDe didnt see the nexus going up hence the crawlers

butchji

Germany1531 Posts

August 19 2011 17:19 GMT

#2570

On August 20 2011 02:19 Warpish wrote:

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Plus DarkForce and XLord.

They are not on the same level. (imo)

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

August 19 2011 17:20 GMT

#2571

On August 20 2011 02:18 Montana[TK] wrote:

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Where is MrBitter from?

Not sure exactly where, but definitely from one of the southern states.

BaLoO-

France318 Posts

August 19 2011 17:20 GMT

#2572

On August 20 2011 02:15 butchji wrote:
So now all of a sudden Stephano is considered the best EU zerg? What happened to ret, Nerchio & MorroW ?

Morrow is very impressive by moments, but besides these brilliant flashes he has barely any results in the last months. Nerchio is dominant online, however I think Stephano just did more recently than Nerchio in big matches. Ret is in a great shape, but we cannot really judge him on a 8 players tournament.

sleepingdog

Austria6145 Posts

August 19 2011 17:20 GMT

#2573

Lol moonglade practised his creepspread overnight it seems

Montana[TK]

1624 Posts

August 19 2011 17:20 GMT

#2574

MG has good creep spread but suiciding mainly Roach/Hydra into defensive Protoss is so 2010 :/

Fyzar

Netherlands8010 Posts

August 19 2011 17:20 GMT

#2575

What in the hell is playing on the main stage atm ;p?

Micket

United Kingdom2163 Posts

August 19 2011 17:20 GMT

#2576

On August 20 2011 02:17 Wawarox wrote:

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On August 20 2011 02:11 s3rp wrote:

On August 20 2011 02:08 mordk wrote:

On August 20 2011 02:05 Wawarox wrote:

On August 20 2011 01:56 mordk wrote:

On August 20 2011 01:51 s3rp wrote:

On August 20 2011 01:48 Welmu wrote:

On August 20 2011 01:45 andrewlt wrote:

On August 20 2011 01:32 raga4ka wrote:

On August 20 2011 01:30 bennyaus wrote:
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HuK's been doing it on his stream for a couple of months as well...

Pros have been doing it for years in BW also

I find it funny that BW Terrans imported many of their BW strategies (drops all over, harrass, siege tank pushes) almost immediately to SC2 and tried to make them work. Protoss seem to just be rediscovering what they did for years in BW. Sure, they tried it every now and then, but it seemed they gave up pretty quickly and are now just trying them again.

That warp prism play is very situational. One viking will shut warp prism completely since they are so weak

The Warpprism has 140 HP ( combined ) thats just 10 less then a Medivac. Its not like 1 Viking will instantly kill it.

There's one gigantic difference between terran dropping and protoss dropping. Terran dropping is instant damage, what I mean is that once units are dropped, the damage is done, and it doesn't really matter too much if the medivac is lost. In comparison, when using WP as protoss, you NEED the WP to survive, either to warp in more units, or to give mobility and enough survivability to HTs (or any other unit) to actually cause damage.

This is essential, because in order to shut down medivacs, you need a viking squad, or a stalker ball, or a muta flock, so you can kill it BEFORE it drops. Against WP, you need only one or 2 units, because if you can threaten the WP to die, the strat is mostly shut down. The one exception is the type of battle which happened in this SeleCT vs MC game, since once the HTs are dropped and the templars are spent, the WP might as well die, it doesn't matter that much.

No.
Only difference is that wp can't be used for something else than drap/warp, so you have to get them only for that. The damage done by wp and drops are the same

Absolutely not, the quick damage by terran drops in not comparable to WP drops, have you seen how long it takes 8 marines to destroy a zerg base? How about 8 marauders taking down a nexus. If 2 medivacs manage to drop a base, the damage is done, it's hard and it's almost instantaneous. A 4 zealot drop in comparison, takes long even to kill some SCVs, they're completely different.

BUT that has nothing to do with the Medivac/WP but the Units that are dropped. Drop 4 DT and they'll do insane damage as well . Protoss doesn't have the greatest units to harass besides DT's yes but this has nothing to do with WP/Medivac themselves.

vs planetary
8 marines + stim => 35 sec
4 zealots => 45 sec
so in a way you are right about the initial damage, but yeah, if you can warp in, zealots => 22 sec, so more risqy but more effective if you manage to do it

Why would you do a comparison of marines and zealots with a planetary fortress, a building with a large amount of armour, and one which a drop will never destroy. Choose something more practical and less biased towards the Protoss. How about the amount of kills against retreating workers? Or how long it takes to destory a spawning pool.

Telcontar

United Kingdom16710 Posts

August 19 2011 17:21 GMT

#2577

Very quick spire from moonglade.