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On August 19 2011 05:11 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 04:56 TooN wrote:
Wasn't Puma Flash's practice partner in BW? Not saying that makes him good. Just saying he obviously has the potential there. Lol that doesn't mean shit. Progamers practice with EVERYBODY, a lot even with people from other teams. Think about it, there are at most only a few hundred players in Korea that progamers would consider competent, and these progamers practice 12 hours a day at least 6 days a week. With these conditions it's likely that Puma and Flash have practiced (maybe not a lot) but definately practiced. So it went like: From "Puma practiced with Flash in BW." to "Holy shit Puma was Flash's practice partner." to "Puma was Flash's favored practice partner so obviously this kid has monster potential." Puma obviously is talented but let's not blow this shit out of proportion.
I agree with this. Puma is incredibly good.
I'm not ready to put him in the same league as MVP, or any of the Slayers Terrans.
He's definitely a favorite to win any foreigner event, but he's not invincible, and I think Nerchio (and any of the other remaining non Koreans) has a really legit chance to take him out.
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I think HuK went to far too many tournaments this month. You have to pick wisely otherwise you'll be so tired you won't even have a chance, while you could still be rested and practicing.
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On August 19 2011 05:07 eksert wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 04:36 dubRa wrote:On August 19 2011 04:30 Condor Hero wrote:On August 19 2011 04:28 Nadarath wrote:On August 19 2011 04:26 DoomsVille wrote:On August 19 2011 04:21 xXFireandIceXx wrote:
Maybe all this drama is getting to Huk. He just wasn't himself today. He flew from Korea to Poland to California to Korea to Germany. You are wrong sir. HuK did not play in Blizz EU Inv. He did play in US part of it tho. He was in Helsinki for something. I think: Anaheim - Korea - Assembly - Netherlands (to practice at Nazgul) - NA Blizzard - Code S - IEM this within a month is already too much in my opinion I think it is definitely the reason of his bad results.. Flying that much really hurts people. He is not a robot, we should understand that. More importantly he should understand that. There are so many tournaments in the scene, it never happened before in any pro scene.. Players should adapt to that and select tournaments to enter.. MC is slacking (i mean not winning everything is slacking for MC:p) also because of it i believe.. I am very happy that Huk advanced to RO16! Gogo get some rest and sleep HUK!
Personally disagree. Dreamhack and HSC3 Huk was playing a style of Protoss that non Koreans were clueless on (ask Nani). Now that his strat isn't unique anymore he isn't winning. He was sort of lucky those 2 events were scheduled so close to each other.
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On August 19 2011 05:15 MrBitter wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 05:11 Condor Hero wrote:On August 19 2011 04:56 TooN wrote:
Wasn't Puma Flash's practice partner in BW? Not saying that makes him good. Just saying he obviously has the potential there. Lol that doesn't mean shit. Progamers practice with EVERYBODY, a lot even with people from other teams. Think about it, there are at most only a few hundred players in Korea that progamers would consider competent, and these progamers practice 12 hours a day at least 6 days a week. With these conditions it's likely that Puma and Flash have practiced (maybe not a lot) but definately practiced. So it went like: From "Puma practiced with Flash in BW." to "Holy shit Puma was Flash's practice partner." to "Puma was Flash's favored practice partner so obviously this kid has monster potential." Puma obviously is talented but let's not blow this shit out of proportion. I agree with this. Puma is incredibly good. I'm not ready to put him in the same league as MVP, or any of the Slayers Terrans. He's definitely a favorite to win any foreigner event, but he's not invincible, and I think Nerchio (and any of the other remaining non Koreans) has a really legit chance to take him out.
Claps
Being a practice partner is a lot different. You got to bring the goods time and time again. In Brood War Puma never reached his full potential on the main stage. He already locked down the NASL and hell, he didn't even compete until the last second, lmao. Let's see how Puma develops.
With that said, HuK has been on the road a lot and yes, when you aren't aware of certain strategies and see them for the first time in a tournament. It's going to take time to adapt to it.
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On August 19 2011 02:52 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 02:49 Noocta wrote:On August 19 2011 02:47 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:45 mprs wrote:On August 19 2011 02:38 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:22 bgx wrote:
The #IEM #SC2 1/4 Finals are:
MC - SeleCT
MaNa - mOOnGlaDe
Socke - Kas
Nerchio - PuMa.
wow MC ezwin! Some upsets to look out for: MC > SeleCT Nerchio > PuMa I think Mana > mOOnGlaDe is obvious Socke vs Kas is pretty even, and I don't see Kas play often, and Socke has been invisible (even though he makes it to top 5 in every tournament). I say: SeleCT Mana Socke Nerchio Overrating Nerchio and Select IMO. They will get stomped :/. I don't know what leads you to believe Select will beat MC considering their last meeting. MC has lost a lot of his momentum and he's kinda fragile against T atm. And Select is out of his slump. So you can't know.. MC just 2-0ed Puma, Kas and beastyqt. Puma is better than select and Kas is about equal...I dunno I just don't see it, especially watching his games yesterday. We'll see.
You're terribly missinformed, and probably posses little knowledge about the sc2-scene
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Watched the replays of some of Nerchios games and game 1 from Stephano vs PuMa. Damn it was awesome!
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On August 19 2011 05:55 mycro wrote:
Watched the replays of some of Nerchios games and game 1 from Stephano vs PuMa. Damn it was awesome!
where i can dl them?
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On August 19 2011 05:34 zeenix1 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 02:52 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:49 Noocta wrote:On August 19 2011 02:47 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:45 mprs wrote:On August 19 2011 02:38 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:22 bgx wrote:
The #IEM #SC2 1/4 Finals are:
MC - SeleCT
MaNa - mOOnGlaDe
Socke - Kas
Nerchio - PuMa.
wow MC ezwin! Some upsets to look out for: MC > SeleCT Nerchio > PuMa I think Mana > mOOnGlaDe is obvious Socke vs Kas is pretty even, and I don't see Kas play often, and Socke has been invisible (even though he makes it to top 5 in every tournament). I say: SeleCT Mana Socke Nerchio Overrating Nerchio and Select IMO. They will get stomped :/. I don't know what leads you to believe Select will beat MC considering their last meeting. MC has lost a lot of his momentum and he's kinda fragile against T atm. And Select is out of his slump. So you can't know.. MC just 2-0ed Puma, Kas and beastyqt. Puma is better than select and Kas is about equal...I dunno I just don't see it, especially watching his games yesterday. We'll see. You're terribly missinformed, and probably posses little knowledge about the sc2-scene
You're insanely delusional, and probably possess little knowledge about the sc2 scene.
durr see I can make a random statement and not even give one bit of reasoning as to why too!
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where is replays from today?
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On August 19 2011 05:58 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 05:34 zeenix1 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:52 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:49 Noocta wrote:On August 19 2011 02:47 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:45 mprs wrote:On August 19 2011 02:38 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:22 bgx wrote:
The #IEM #SC2 1/4 Finals are:
MC - SeleCT
MaNa - mOOnGlaDe
Socke - Kas
Nerchio - PuMa.
wow MC ezwin! Some upsets to look out for: MC > SeleCT Nerchio > PuMa I think Mana > mOOnGlaDe is obvious Socke vs Kas is pretty even, and I don't see Kas play often, and Socke has been invisible (even though he makes it to top 5 in every tournament). I say: SeleCT Mana Socke Nerchio Overrating Nerchio and Select IMO. They will get stomped :/. I don't know what leads you to believe Select will beat MC considering their last meeting. MC has lost a lot of his momentum and he's kinda fragile against T atm. And Select is out of his slump. So you can't know.. MC just 2-0ed Puma, Kas and beastyqt. Puma is better than select and Kas is about equal...I dunno I just don't see it, especially watching his games yesterday. We'll see. You're terribly missinformed, and probably posses little knowledge about the sc2-scene You're insanely delusional, and probably possess little knowledge about the sc2 scene. durr see I can make a random statement and not even give one bit of reasoning as to why too!
You said MC 2-0'd puma. MC hasn't even played puma yet. Shit, they're on two opposite ends of the bracket.
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On August 19 2011 06:08 haka wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 05:58 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 05:34 zeenix1 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:52 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:49 Noocta wrote:On August 19 2011 02:47 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:45 mprs wrote:On August 19 2011 02:38 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:22 bgx wrote:
The #IEM #SC2 1/4 Finals are:
MC - SeleCT
MaNa - mOOnGlaDe
Socke - Kas
Nerchio - PuMa.
wow MC ezwin! Some upsets to look out for: MC > SeleCT Nerchio > PuMa I think Mana > mOOnGlaDe is obvious Socke vs Kas is pretty even, and I don't see Kas play often, and Socke has been invisible (even though he makes it to top 5 in every tournament). I say: SeleCT Mana Socke Nerchio Overrating Nerchio and Select IMO. They will get stomped :/. I don't know what leads you to believe Select will beat MC considering their last meeting. MC has lost a lot of his momentum and he's kinda fragile against T atm. And Select is out of his slump. So you can't know.. MC just 2-0ed Puma, Kas and beastyqt. Puma is better than select and Kas is about equal...I dunno I just don't see it, especially watching his games yesterday. We'll see. You're terribly missinformed, and probably posses little knowledge about the sc2-scene You're insanely delusional, and probably possess little knowledge about the sc2 scene. durr see I can make a random statement and not even give one bit of reasoning as to why too! You said MC 2-0'd puma. MC hasn't even played puma yet. Shit, they're on two opposite ends of the bracket.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255713 MC beat Puma in that.
Why so misinformed?
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On August 19 2011 06:10 Jinivus wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 06:08 haka wrote:On August 19 2011 05:58 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 05:34 zeenix1 wrote:On August 19 2011 02:52 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:49 Noocta wrote:On August 19 2011 02:47 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:45 mprs wrote:On August 19 2011 02:38 Jinivus wrote:On August 19 2011 02:22 bgx wrote:
The #IEM #SC2 1/4 Finals are:
MC - SeleCT
MaNa - mOOnGlaDe
Socke - Kas
Nerchio - PuMa.
wow MC ezwin! Some upsets to look out for: MC > SeleCT Nerchio > PuMa I think Mana > mOOnGlaDe is obvious Socke vs Kas is pretty even, and I don't see Kas play often, and Socke has been invisible (even though he makes it to top 5 in every tournament). I say: SeleCT Mana Socke Nerchio Overrating Nerchio and Select IMO. They will get stomped :/. I don't know what leads you to believe Select will beat MC considering their last meeting. MC has lost a lot of his momentum and he's kinda fragile against T atm. And Select is out of his slump. So you can't know.. MC just 2-0ed Puma, Kas and beastyqt. Puma is better than select and Kas is about equal...I dunno I just don't see it, especially watching his games yesterday. We'll see. You're terribly missinformed, and probably posses little knowledge about the sc2-scene You're insanely delusional, and probably possess little knowledge about the sc2 scene. durr see I can make a random statement and not even give one bit of reasoning as to why too! You said MC 2-0'd puma. MC hasn't even played puma yet. Shit, they're on two opposite ends of the bracket. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=255713 MC beat Puma in that. Why so misinformed?
Ah, I didn't see that one. But it felt like you were saying MC beat Puma seeing as you posted here in the IEM Day 2 thread. My mistake 
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Rerun of Nerchio vs. Tarson is on English Stream 2 atm if anyone is interested.
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On August 19 2011 05:11 Condor Hero wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 04:56 TooN wrote:
Wasn't Puma Flash's practice partner in BW? Not saying that makes him good. Just saying he obviously has the potential there. Lol that doesn't mean shit. Progamers practice with EVERYBODY, a lot even with people from other teams. Think about it, there are at most only a few hundred players in Korea that progamers would consider competent, and these progamers practice 12 hours a day at least 6 days a week. With these conditions it's likely that Puma and Flash have practiced (maybe not a lot) but definately practiced. So it went like: From "Puma practiced with Flash in BW." to "Holy shit Puma was Flash's practice partner." to "Puma was Flash's favored practice partner so obviously this kid has monster potential." Puma obviously is talented but let's not blow this shit out of proportion.
No. Puma was Flash's practice partner. No. Just No.
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ok I'm sure this has been asked, where can I buy that 3rax shirt?
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On August 19 2011 06:20 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
ok I'm sure this has been asked, where can I buy that 3rax shirt?
right now only at Gamescom. But those Shirts will be available in the ESL Shop in a few days afaik.
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Hi guys,
i was at gamescom today and took some pictures with my iPhone. The quality isnt too good, but i think they still tell the story.
Best thing at the whole event was me walking in a thight crowd, glancing to my left and see a very small guy in an EG Shirt and a redhaired Korean guy in a white shirt walking in line laughing at each other. It took me a while to realize that they were the new teammates EGHuK and EGPuMa.
Unfortunatly i had very litte time to take a photo and as a result its a little washed out.
Here it is:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/g6FTj.jpg)
And here are the others:
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aaX5G.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/aAA3W.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/OqG8Z.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jqdRd.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/2gOmc.jpg)
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/EBN1h.jpg)
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On August 19 2011 01:44 CidO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2011 01:41 syllogism wrote:On August 19 2011 01:40 Baituri wrote:On August 19 2011 01:37 SafeAsCheese wrote:On August 19 2011 01:37 CidO wrote:On August 19 2011 01:23 Grumbels wrote:On August 19 2011 01:21 CidO wrote:
And this is why it's not worth it to buy a player based off a single tournament performance. EG bought into the Hype just the same as netizens seem to only have a 1-2 month max history memory of events.
Puma is good, he's pro level obviously, but Mana has been solid for a while, anyone who picked Puma to beat Mana is just silly This is so dumb, Puma is way favored playing against Mana. Why? Because I don't buy into 30 day hype? Get off it - 1 month results are not everything. Look for solid players who post consistent results. Europe is solid. Mana, Nerchio, White-Ra, Dimaga, i'd pick any of those 4 over Puma. I hope you never bet money, because you would get your ass owned in predictions :X I hope you never bet money. Betting on someone who only has 1 result and has not shown a lot besides that 1 tournament. Betting on any solid korean against a foreigner is free money in the long run Solid Korean - Yes I'd be stupid to bet against one. When he's on his game, MC would be one. I'd also bet on MVP, MMA, Nestea, Losira, HongUn, Ensnare, Clide, Polt and Bomber to name a few. Puma though is not on that list. And therefore I would bet against him if say Mana were to play him in IEM.
Notsure if serious. Puma is better than ensnare and clide, not sure why you used those two as an example... They are consistent but mediocre compared to top koreans.
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