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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
August 11 2011 06:58 GMT
#2021
On August 11 2011 15:54 ShootingStars wrote:
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On August 11 2011 15:53 TheSilverfox wrote:
Wow, with all the trouble TSL has had these last weeks I'm happy that JYP will go to the Up&Down (or straight to Code S if he wins Code A).

Ganzi is going to rape his ass with 111 ^^

He plays Taeja in the next round
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Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
August 11 2011 06:58 GMT
#2022
JYP, taking out DRG and beginning his quest to be the best three letter SC2 player in the world. Will he get to the final boss MMA? Only time will tell
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
August 11 2011 06:58 GMT
#2023
On August 11 2011 15:57 lichter wrote:
DRG's mechanics are rock solid but he keeps making so many questionable decisions

That defines DRG. He's a very exciting Zerg to watch. He sees marines and says mutalisks will work. And it does.

This time however, he just melted to lances and bah.
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
August 11 2011 06:58 GMT
#2024
Yoda next

John, incoming he is

lulz there will be
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HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
August 11 2011 06:58 GMT
#2025
On August 11 2011 15:57 Zefa wrote:
Casters didn't really do well covering the stuff going in game 3 =(. DRG very confidently expected stargate out of JYP. He was setting up spores at each of his hatches and then went straight to hydras. JYP gambled and hoped that DRG would do this preparation and rushed collosus tech and hid it very well and hit a very strong timing with it. At the point where drg decided to go hydras, the game was already over as there was no way he was getting a spire up before the timing hit.

DRG was just too confident in his read that JYP was going stargate (maybe dt) otherwise a very quick 6 gate timing both of which hydras are very good vs with the gold up.

In a lot of DRG games he seems to favor high % plays which there is nothing wrong with. His 6 pool in the 2nd game on Tal'Darim reflects this point. Its going to be be extremely successful given that protoss FFE most of the time + the unlikeliness of getting scouted first. Just unlucky both games 2 and 3 the protoss went twice with the more unlikely scenarios.


That's the difference between Tastetosis and Code A casters, I feel. Artosis would have kept us in the loop about everything going on from start to finish - all he ever does is watch the production tab and analyze it, heh. But that's what makes him so good.
cheesemaster
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1975 Posts
August 11 2011 06:58 GMT
#2026
On August 11 2011 15:57 Zefa wrote:
Casters didn't really do well covering the stuff going in game 3 =(. DRG very confidently expected stargate out of JYP. He was setting up spores at each of his hatches and then went straight to hydras. JYP gambled and hoped that DRG would do this preparation and rushed collosus tech and hid it very well and hit a very strong timing with it. At the point where drg decided to go hydras, the game was already over as there was no way he was getting a spire up before the timing hit.

DRG was just too confident in his read that JYP was going stargate (maybe dt) otherwise a very quick 6 gate timing both of which hydras are very good vs with the gold up.

In a lot of DRG games he seems to favor high % plays which there is nothing wrong with. His 6 pool in the 2nd game on Tal'Darim reflects this point. Its going to be be extremely successful given that protoss FFE most of the time + the unlikeliness of getting scouted first. Just unlucky both games 2 and 3 the protoss went twice with the more unlikely scenarios.

Yea JYP was the one that gambled..... not the guy who took the gold base right off the bat and decided to go blind hydras.
Slayers_MMA The terran who beats terrans
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2027
On August 11 2011 15:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:
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On August 11 2011 15:55 DystopiaX wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:53 MooMooMugi wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:52 Emporio wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:51 Crazypyro1 wrote:
DRG got blind countered. Fucking hydras are so bad in PvZ. Shouldnt use them....

DRG didn't get blind countered -___-

DRG tried to blind counter and got owned.

This is true, DRG was expecting some sort of big gateway push off 2 bases and made hydras to counter it

Neither person scouted, JYP happened to make the right tech choice and won. DRG kind of got blind countered by not scouting himself. Funny thing is if he did his usual ling/spire into infestor play he probably would have been fine. That or go hydras sooner, if he did that before the collossi came out he would've won easy.

hm, don't think the infestors would be out in time

think JYP might have also made this timing expecting ling/infestor again but dunno

Maybe not infestors but had he either scouted or made reasonable mutas anyway he would probably have been fine.
Or made roaches and have been fine.
Or done anything but blind go hydras and be fine...

dammit
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2028
On August 11 2011 15:55 Fionn wrote:
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49 total votes

Your vote: What 's your favorite 1 of the 1-1-1?

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forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2029
On August 11 2011 15:52 bittman wrote:
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On August 11 2011 15:51 Jinivus wrote:
Haha Dongranoob and his overhypedness!!!!!!!!!!!!! MUAHAH!!!!!


Riiiight, he gives us 3 exciting games and loses to a protoss that actually isn't crashing like everyone else and he's overhyped?

He's still code S material, but so is JYP

Don't you remember this entire site having a raging hard-on for this guy going into MLG? He's obviously a very good zerg but he was getting worshiped like he was a top player in spite of not having the results to warrant that kind of praise. DRG has absolutely been overhyped.
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 07:00:08
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2030
You can easily tell the difference between a BW fan and a new SC2 fan.

BW fans talk about the game and the strategies
Sc2 fans talk about the players and the hype. and whether or not who sucks or who is called what.

so sad, why cant it just be about the game? IMO they both showed great skill but in an even game, i think DRG is better. but things arent always even are they? not when you make mistakes and get countered. this is a STRATEGY game and its the most important part of play at this level.
Jayrod
Profile Joined August 2010
1820 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2031
On August 11 2011 15:54 simansh wrote:
Man, why did DRG play so gimmicky :/

Hes unpredictable... its a strength more than a weakness. Ive seen him do that build succesfully on metalopolis multiple times. He raped naniwa with it at MLG as well. DRG is gonna be so good someday and he already belongs as 3rd best zerg imo. I hate zerg though fuck zerg id rather watch TvT all day than see any zergs advance.
seansye
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1722 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2032
God I wish artosis casted that second game .
I will master Speshul Taktics.!
Vitamins
Profile Joined October 2010
United States680 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2033
Hahah so much for all the DRG hype. Still haven't bought into it. Don't get why he came out of nowhere with all this praise.
dookudooku
Profile Joined December 2010
255 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2034
On August 11 2011 15:55 snafoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 15:52 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:51 Crazypyro1 wrote:
DRG got blind countered. Fucking hydras are so bad in PvZ. Shouldnt use them....

he went hydras vs MMA who is infamous for blue flame hellions. Idk what's with DRG sometimes. He places so solid in a lot of games and in other games it's just like... what...


you havnt seen the hydra roach vs Terran games in ICCUP weekly have you?

Anyway, pretty sure DRG went hydra/ling because he was expecting 6/7/8gate blink stalker to punish the gold, JYP predicted thats what DRG would prepare for and countered that, very smart play.


Considering that JYP also FE'd, DRG could have taken the gold then started streaming roach + ling right away with a boosted economy. Playing passive and building hydras was really a low probability gamble. Taking the gold early then defending against Protoss expand w/o scouting at all just didn't make sense.
FuzzyJAM
Profile Joined July 2010
Scotland9300 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2035
Have to say, JYP gets credit for being the first Protoss to beat a Korean this season.


Pretty weird that DRG went for a 6pool and a metagame win rather than play straight up; I guess he was just scared of JYP for some reason which is weird considering the most normal game was the one he totally dominated.
Did you ever say Yes to a single joy?
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2036
On August 11 2011 15:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 15:54 ShootingStars wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:53 TheSilverfox wrote:
Wow, with all the trouble TSL has had these last weeks I'm happy that JYP will go to the Up&Down (or straight to Code S if he wins Code A).

Ganzi is going to rape his ass with 111 ^^

He plays Taeja in the next round

Doesn't really matter cause it's all the Korean Terrans seem to do anyway, and it doesn't seem particularly hard to pull off.
Stanlot
Profile Joined December 2010
United States5742 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2037
On August 11 2011 15:58 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 15:54 ShootingStars wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:53 TheSilverfox wrote:
Wow, with all the trouble TSL has had these last weeks I'm happy that JYP will go to the Up&Down (or straight to Code S if he wins Code A).

Ganzi is going to rape his ass with 111 ^^

He plays Taeja in the next round

FFFFFFF-
I forgot about that ;_; Oh well, at least they both make it to up&down
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Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2038
On August 11 2011 15:56 fraktoasters wrote:
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On August 11 2011 15:53 Deathmanbob wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:44 Deathmanbob wrote:
expand to the gold...... yay this is over DRG wins. theres no way to stop a good zerg from doing this


this guys a idiot .......


Gotta love the people who are saying gold bases are imba after one, and only one, game. Well now we have two games and taking quick gold bases is 1-1, so I guess it's no longer imba.

DRG would not have held with that unit composition even if he took a standard natural. That's not a loss based on his expansion choice, but his unit comp.
skrzmark
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1528 Posts
August 11 2011 06:59 GMT
#2039
YES Protoss finally!!! I knew JYP would take down DRG I don't think DRG is code S material yet. And why are so many people sad that a zerg didn't advance? 4 zergs advanced yesterday... Plenty of zergs need more MAN TOSS baby!
We got them GOM TvT's and them mlGG's
TheHova
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United Kingdom2612 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-11 07:00:30
August 11 2011 07:00 GMT
#2040
On August 11 2011 15:56 fraktoasters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2011 15:53 Deathmanbob wrote:
On August 11 2011 15:44 Deathmanbob wrote:
expand to the gold...... yay this is over DRG wins. theres no way to stop a good zerg from doing this


this guys a idiot .......


Gotta love the people who are saying gold bases are imba after one, and only one, game. Well now we have two games and taking quick gold bases is 1-1, so I guess it's no longer imba.


It's still near impossible to pressure/punish if you do it properly. I did it regularly against P on the ladder (and i'm high masters not a bronze scrub) and if i've defended properly and scout what they are doing i always keep it. If a see someone try and 4gate or 3gate stargate/robo against this build i smile with glee because i know i can defend the all in and they are basically fucked after that. Down side is it mines out really fast but that huge influx of minerals early is so beneficial to Zerg
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